Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:
View Poll Results: what heads/ or change cam with heads
AFR 225's
25.58%
Trick flow 215"s
48.84%
patriot 5.3 ls6 heads
9.30%
texas speed stage 2.5
18.60%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

heads cam need good advice

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-01-2009, 02:51 PM
  #1  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
02'z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default heads cam need good advice

ok i have posted on here b4 and asked about the same thing. ill try agin
i have a 2002 camaro m6. as of now i have a cam only car (springs pushrods all that good stuff also) next im looking into heads what heads should i run for best hp with a Tv 3 cam? or i have been told to change cam and so i can maximize hp with the heads
Old 01-01-2009, 03:39 PM
  #2  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (8)
 
stoverz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Buda, Texas
Posts: 792
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

Do some research man, theres lots of easy to find info out there on all these heads.
Old 01-01-2009, 03:39 PM
  #3  
TECH Apprentice
 
deuce_454's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 369
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

TEA makes a good head in between the low buck patriot/TSP and high end FT/AFR... i would recomend the TEA stg 2, LS6 head,, great medium lift numbers, and 320 cfm in the high lift end
Old 01-01-2009, 03:41 PM
  #4  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
02'z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

my lift on the cam is .643 forgot to put that in here. thats why ppl tell me to change cams but i really like it
Old 01-01-2009, 03:41 PM
  #5  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (5)
 
teke184's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Key West, Florida
Posts: 3,183
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

if you have the coin.....the TFS are pretty hard to beat.

great flow
improved valve angle for more clearance
great runner size for power down low without sacraficing power up top


downside is you have to buy roller rockers along with them.
Old 01-01-2009, 03:48 PM
  #6  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
02'z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

sorry i dont know much about motors why would i need roller rockers with only those heads
Old 01-01-2009, 04:03 PM
  #7  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
ZMONSTER!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Fresno, California
Posts: 1,985
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

technically you dont, you can run RR's with TFS heads, but why? Really its only another 400 bucks but it will ensure perfect valve train geometry and reduce wear. I have seen where TFS says you can run stock rockers, but advises against it so strongly that they dont even consider it an option.
Old 01-01-2009, 07:12 PM
  #8  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
02'z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

thanks had no idea i needed them would it be a good idea to get roller rockers with any head? sorry i really dont know
Old 01-01-2009, 07:17 PM
  #9  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
vsocks1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Belgium, WI
Posts: 439
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

They are needed specifically with TFS to get proper valvetrain geometry. Isn't as much a necessity with the other heads.

Last edited by vsocks1; 01-01-2009 at 07:55 PM.
Old 01-01-2009, 07:45 PM
  #10  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
ZMONSTER!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Fresno, California
Posts: 1,985
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

yes roller rockers are a good idea with any aftermarket head. I believe the determining factor as far as valve train wear goes is the bronze valve guides.
Old 01-03-2009, 08:19 PM
  #11  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
02'z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

thanks looks like trick flows are winning
Old 01-03-2009, 09:36 PM
  #12  
TECH Regular
 
1969mach1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Bellaire, TX
Posts: 458
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

AFR 205's

here is why

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...heads-cam.html
Old 01-03-2009, 11:14 PM
  #13  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (14)
 
caviness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Liberty,NC
Posts: 698
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

just search the dyno section for 346ci and pick the power you want,atleast 10 different combo's in their with all heads and cams.myself i like tfs and afr and going to get tfs 225's for my engine.
Old 01-06-2009, 10:08 AM
  #14  
LS1Tech Sponsor
 
TrickFlowTech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

False statement.

Originally Posted by vsocks1
They are needed specifically with TFS to get proper valvetrain geometry. Isn't as much a necessity with the other heads.
__________________
http://www.trickflow.com/emain.asp
Click Above for Product Information
Old 01-06-2009, 10:09 AM
  #15  
LS1Tech Sponsor
 
TrickFlowTech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

True and that is with any head.

Originally Posted by ZMONSTER!
yes roller rockers are a good idea with any aftermarket head. I believe the determining factor as far as valve train wear goes is the bronze valve guides.
__________________
http://www.trickflow.com/emain.asp
Click Above for Product Information
Old 01-06-2009, 02:15 PM
  #16  
TECH Resident
 
eamador11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 907
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by TrickFlowTech
False statement.
huh? you can run stock rockers now with TFS 215s?
Old 01-18-2009, 11:06 AM
  #17  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
02'z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 60
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

lol so what is really true?
Old 01-18-2009, 12:26 PM
  #18  
Banned
 
Silver98vette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thumbs up Afr

Love my AFR 205 heads

T'
Old 01-18-2009, 02:13 PM
  #19  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
vettenuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Little Rhody
Posts: 8,092
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by eamador11
huh? you can run stock rockers now with TFS 215s?
No, I think what "TrickFlow" was stating as false is the statement that only Trick Flow heads should be run with roller rockers.
Old 01-19-2009, 09:44 AM
  #20  
LS1Tech Sponsor
 
TrickFlowTech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 297
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by vettenuts
No, I think what "TrickFlow" was stating as false is the statement that only Trick Flow heads should be run with roller rockers.
Correct.

We will only warranty our heads if you are using roller rockers. It is not due to geometry as some seem to think. On the larger high lift cams using a stock rocker you will get guide wear on bronze guides and you will get valve tip scrubbing. This is just not on our heads!!!! We have tested many aftermarket and factory heads and they have all done it.
__________________
http://www.trickflow.com/emain.asp
Click Above for Product Information



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:18 AM.