LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

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Old 01-27-2009, 06:38 PM
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So I was thinking about going with the cc 305 when I do my cam swap. But Im wondering if the stock springs will work with with it or will I need to buy a new set.
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A. Valve Springs:

Purpose: Keep the valve in control.
Benefit of Upgrading: Upgrading the valve springs is ABSOLUTELY mandatory in doing a cam swap. The stock valve springs CANNOT handle any more lift or RPM than the stock cam puts out as well as a cam with a more aggressive lobe design.
Required: YES.
Popular Choices: Crane Dual Spring Kit 10308-1 (includes locks, retainers, shims), PAC or Comp Cams Beehive Kits (1218 PAC or 26918 Comp)
Note: Make sure the valve springs you purchase are matched to the camshaft you plan to run. You do not want the valve springs to go into coil bind (maximum compression of the spring till its solid) because this will cause a major failure in the motor.
Along with valve springs, you will need locks, retainers, shims, and valve stem seals (16). The LT4 valve springs located in the LT4 "hot cam" kit should NOT be considered to be run with any cam due to the fact they are known to be very weak and only have a max lift rating of .540 which is not high enough for most off the-shelf camshafts.
Proper installation of the valve springs is as important as anything during installation. Make sure to check installed height from the manufacture or shop you get the camshaft and springs from.
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should tell you just about everything you need...
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Having that cam previously I would not recomend it, and yes of corse you need to change valve springs
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New and new...
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Technically the CC305 is pretty mild and will work with stock springs, however it is best to replace them anyway. I have a used CC305 coming out of my T/A this week (today) with about 7-8K on it. PM me if you are interested.

FWIW - This cam has been great at it's a bit more HP/TQ than the common Hotcam.
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Originally Posted by Jditlfm
Having that cam previously I would not recomend it, and yes of corse you need to change valve springs
wow what a descriptive useful post
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
wow what a descriptive useful post
What more did you want. He asked if he had to change his valve springs I said yes he should. Then i just added that i did not like that cam and wouldn't recommend it, if he cared about my recommendation he would have asked why I didn't like. Then he could have drawn his own conclusions.Same with you. Why waste my time explaining my opinion to someone who doesn't want it. No need to be a ******** about it with your sweet smiley face rolling his eyes.
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^^ I agree. If you want to be a *** post somewhere else. Speaking of "a useful" post, what did you contribute to this thread other then bashing on someone Wicked? Nothing...
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Thanks guys for the info. Sorry for the late reply but Ive been covered up by ice.
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Originally Posted by Wicked94Z
wow what a descriptive useful post
Just like yours huh genious?

Yes op, you need new valve springs as others have stated.
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I got a good deal on some PAC 1218s. Comp 918s or Patriots are all good choices. My buddy is building a cammed LQ9 and he is going with the Patriots. They have a pretty good deal right now. I think 255$ ? But definately new springs. The stock springs are damn near maxxed out now.

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Originally Posted by Ihasfip
I got a good deal on some PAC 1218s. Comp 918s or Patriots are all good choices. My buddy is building a cammed LQ9 and he is going with the Patriots. They have a pretty good deal right now. I think 255$ ? But definately new springs. The stock springs are damn near maxxed out now.

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Yep, after shipping it's only like $278, or something like that. I'm throwing my Patriots in my car next week, hopefully, with some 1.7RR's, since my valve spring micrometer came in today.




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