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Old 06-01-2009, 02:37 PM
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i know the 224/224 will pass but is that the highest that will pass smog (especially here in california) i just pulled off my lt's last week and am now back to stock but have a tr230/224 brand new sitting in the box in my room i can't use without lt's and plus i know that won't pass a sniffer lol so cam gurus any suggestions on a different spec?


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cheater cam from TR it was desif=gned for use with stock manifolds
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Originally Posted by nastychevelle
cheater cam from TR it was desif=gned for use with stock manifolds
any other cams?
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no john, no other cams pass smog.
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Originally Posted by 1Loudz28
no john, no other cams pass smog.
your killing my hope lol
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on the cheater cam intake and exhaust lifts are more than the tr230/224 sitting in my room in the box . . . i'll still need to replace my rockers lol

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btw i'd PM Patrick G or Predator Z but their PM functions have been disabled so hopefully one of them will chime in or pm me or something
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stop with this smog bs. passing smog is boring.
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paying an extra $300 to do it sucks lol
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who is running the cheater cam?
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The general rule of thumb is -7 degrees of overlap at .050" will pass smog every time. -4 degrees might pass, but the cats need to be really good and the tune needs to be razor sharp. 0 degrees of overlap at .050" almost NEVER passes.

TR 224 on a 114LSA = -4 degrees (maybe pass)
TR 230 on a 111LSA = 5 degrees (dirty, no way pass)
TR 220 on a 114LSA = -8 degrees (definitely pass)
215/230 on a117LSA CheaTR = -11 degrees (definitely pass)
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How do you know what the overlap is? On my cam card it doesn't have overlap or do I not know what to look for?

221/221 114+4 cam
561/561
in open @.050 .5btdc CL 40.5ABC
ex 48.5BBC -7.5ATC
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
The general rule of thumb is -7 degrees of overlap at .050" will pass smog every time. -4 degrees might pass, but the cats need to be really good and the tune needs to be razor sharp. 0 degrees of overlap at .050" almost NEVER passes.

TR 224 on a 114LSA = -4 degrees (maybe pass)
TR 230 on a 111LSA = 5 degrees (dirty, no way pass)
TR 220 on a 114LSA = -8 degrees (definitely pass)
215/230 on a117LSA CheaTR = -11 degrees (definitely pass)
sweet thanks patrick! i've got a call into TR about possibly sending back this tr230 cam in exchange for the cheater or the tr220 beings that the tr230 is still in the wrapping and box it came in and has never been used
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intake duration + exhaust duration divided by two, then subtract LSA times two.

example- MS3 237/242 113lsa

237+242=479
479/2=239.5
113 X 2 226
239.5-226=13.5 degrees of overlap

correct me if I'm wrong
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Originally Posted by mike13
How do you know what the overlap is? On my cam card it doesn't have overlap or do I not know what to look for?

221/221 114+4 cam
561/561
in open @.050 .5btdc CL 40.5ABC
ex 48.5BBC -7.5ATC
Your car has -7 degrees overlap. According to Pat G you should pass smog right on the dot.
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Sorry for all of the posts. Isn't it a lot easier to just pay $300 every few years and have the power/setup you really want? I ask this because I'm moving back to NorCal in 6-7 months. I see a lot of Cali Tech members with signatures that would never pass smog. Good luck.
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patrick how bout this one?
TR227/227 116LSA

227+227=454
454/2=227
227-116=111
111-116=-5 barely pass also?
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Is the negative overlap of stock or close to stock cams what makes them a good start for forced induction?
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Originally Posted by firefighter813x
Sorry for all of the posts. Isn't it a lot easier to just pay $300 every few years and have the power/setup you really want? I ask this because I'm moving back to NorCal in 6-7 months. I see a lot of Cali Tech members with signatures that would never pass smog. Good luck.
yeah, alotta smog techs going to jail recently. lol
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Originally Posted by 1Loudz28
yeah, alotta smog techs going to jail recently. lol
dan is right lol


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