mtuggle86

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Im going to be buying a cam soon and I need some help picking it out Im looking at the TR224 Tsp 224r and Tsp 228r with 112lsa.Emissions do not matter I live in mich and theres no testing My needs are

#1 My car is daily driven and I would like a very street friendly cam with a decent idle while and a good amount of lope
#2 Reliable I dont want to be changing valve springs every 15k miles
#3 Last I would like to get the most power out of it I can given my other needs with a strong mid range with a peak power no higher then 6500

Car is an 2001 Camaro with M6 and 3.73 gears in the back 60k miles im planing on keeping the stock heads
Mods are K&N Fipk, Stock Ported TB, jet-hot longtubes, jet-hot ORY, flowmaster catback with cutouts

ramdaspadhye

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TR224 should fit your nicely, probably on 112 since you're lookin for the lope.

corvet786c

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The cam I have is very streetable and has a lot of torque. Alot in the entire rpm range. Check it out.

http://www.vincihiperformance.com/CA...%20LS1%202.htm

USArmyZ28

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Trex or MS4 should do you nicely, jk lol.

Have you considered the GMPP ASA Cam? It lopes really hard for a smaller cam, also alot of the members on here who use the cam have very positive things to say about it.

dre2013

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id go 228r

Zach79Z

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Had the ASA cam in my 98 and loved it. Loped hard and drove very well for a mail order tune. Id suggest that or the VRx3 from vengeance

01ssreda4

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i would go 228 also.

mtuggle86

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will the 228r be much harder on my valvetrain then the tr224?

Zach79Z

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TR 224-112" - 224/224 .563/.563 112 LSA

vs

TSP 228r" 228/228 .588/.588 112 LSA

The 228 will be a little rougher prolly just because it is slightly larger but it'll give you more lope like you want

mtuggle86

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I was reading gm high tech performance and they tested the stock rocker arms and there testing showed the stock rocker arms where really only good for a little past 550 lift without excessive wear to the valve guides and valve tips Can I go all the way up to 588 without this problem?

PREDATOR-Z

Don't believe everything you read in those mags. That article is marketing at its best.

mtuggle86

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well I just like to make sure but your prob right
What kind of power can i expect from both these cams?

ramdaspadhye

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This one should lope pretty good for ya and still have loads of torque...

218/224 .605/.581 on 108lsa bout 5 degrees of overlap

Big Red Z28

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Just contact patrick G and have him give you the specs for a custom cam he only charges 25$ and gave my specs within a couple days. Just fill out the sheets, tell him exactly what you are looking for as far as driveability and give as much info about your car, the more info the better, He is a great to work with, worse case if you dont like his specs you're only out 25$ and can always go with another cam. However i think you wil be very happy with Patrick G and feel more comfortbale after wards knowing you got the cam for you and not a general cam that will work well.

Zach79Z

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with your mods im guessing 370-380ish?

Patrick G

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TR224 will give you everything you're looking for. It's a very proven cam and won't wipe out your valvesprings as quickly as some of the other cams you mentioned.

mtuggle86

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would you suggest patriot duals and titanium retainers or just the comp 918s and steel retainers?

and also double roller timing chain or HD ls2 timing chain?

Big Red Z28

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As far as your gains i can tell you my old setup was fairly close to yours i had qtp 1 3/4 with qtp y pipe and cats, 3" Borla exhaust no cut outs, K@n FIPK, stock ls6 intake with ported stock tb, SLP underdrive pulley, HP Tuned not myself, 17x9.5 wheels, 4.10 gears, stock rear and tranny with spec stage 3 clutch and steel flywheel.
My cam was comp cams part #54-426-11 222/224 .566/.568 112 LSA using comp cams pro magnum 1.75 rockers and 918 springs.

My results were 380 rwhp/ 351 rwtq using a mustang dyno.

Jason 98 TA

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I completely disagree with this statement. The 224R & 228R camshaft are far from super-aggressive camshafts that wipe out valvesprings. Joseph currently has a set of 60k mile Comp 918s he pulled used out of his brothers car that still has decent pressure & STILL works with these lobes.

I have no doubt all three of these camshafts will have a great life when combined with any of PRC's spring kits, or the Comp 918 spring kits.

If you'd like we can provide you with engine dyno data from both the 224R & 228R camshafts. We're dyno testing a bunch of camshafts starting next week & we'll have data all the way down to 2k rpm for you guys to checkout!!

Jason

PREDATOR-Z

From another member's TR224 cam lift report I can see that intake lobe has a variance of 56.6 and exhaust 52, so yes they are much less agressive than XE-R at 49



LSA: (111.7)
Lift: (0.565/0.565)
Duration @ .006 and .050: (.006= 278.3/276.6 & .050= 224.7/224.6)
IVO: (.006= 29.1 BTDC & .050= 4.6 BTDC)
IVC: (.006= 69.2 ABDC & .050= 40.1 ABDC)
EVO: (.006= 71.6 BBDC & .050= 47.9 BBDC)
EVC: (.006= 25.0 ATDC & .050= 3.3 BTDC)