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Old 07-20-2010, 08:31 PM
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Is a yank pt4400 to big for a stock lt1? all opinions wanted.
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Depends on your definition of too big. Is this car a DD? Or a stripped-out dedicated track-only shell of a car? In any case, probably.
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being serious? he dds it. but would it be that bad? i have no clue about lt1's.
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Originally Posted by alucero258
Is a yank pt4400 to big for a stock lt1? all opinions wanted.
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The lt1 has a lower torque peek than a ls1 so it doesnt need as loose of a converter. I would get a ss4000.
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Originally Posted by vanilla89
The lt1 has a lower torque peek than a ls1 so it doesnt need as loose of a converter. I would get a ss4000.
100% agreed^^^^^^^
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he can pick up a 4400 at a bargin. should he buy or just wait for a 3600 to 4000?
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Originally Posted by alucero258
he can pick up a 4400 at a bargin. should he buy or just wait for a 3600 to 4000?
if its a really good deal get it and have it restalled. or wait for the wright converter..
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A 4000 is as big as I would go for a stock LT1 DD. A 3500 is probably a better choice.
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Thats what i thought. What would justify a 4400 stall tho?
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Originally Posted by alucero258
Thats what i thought. What would justify a 4400 stall tho?
a light car with gear and spinning 7000rms would need a pt4400.
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I would rock it! It's not like those converters are loose. Just cruising around it would behave like stock.
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what are the pros and cons of going with it?
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Cons
Terrible gas mileage, broken rear ends, possibly slower, not worth the swap probably, lousy topend
Pro
Pulls like crazy at first might be slightly quicker


I'd say get a 3600 for a stockish car. I want to restall up to 36-3800 in mine. I'm already on my second stall.
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PT series will not feel like the tighter street SS series of stalls, I would not do it. He will probably end up pulling it to sell it after a while.

There is a huge difference between an SS4000 and a PT4400. In an NA 1/8th mile car with a lot of gear it would be fine...but not a DD. He will eventually hate driving it.

Honestly I DD'd a 3200 in a bolt-on LT1 and kept it when I went H/C and loved it even though a lot of people online said it was too small. Just to show how opinionated a topic it is, the shop that tuned my car said 3200 is on the big side for a DD LT1...the exact opposite of what many people say on forums.

Remember that he is peaking at barely over 5k rpms in a stock LT1. A 4.4K converter is a lot of stall for that power curve, and he will be missing out on a lot of the low end tq the engines are known for.
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I'd wait until you do at least a cam, or heads and cam to do a converter and have it matched to your comob. Any stall worth having would pass up a lot of the stock LT1's torque curve. My friend had a no name 2400 stall in his car, and it felt really nice on the street. I had a Vig 3200 (flashed around 4000) and it was way to big for the stock motor.
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yes its way too big. stock he should be looking in the area of a 3K.
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im the other end of the spectrum. I had a yank super street fighter 3500 behind a 383 and thought I should have gone bigger. when I later built a cammed 350 with stock heads I picked up a PT4000 out of an LS1 vette for a good price and I absolutely loved it even with the 2.73s I initially had, with 4.10s it was downright nasty. however that car had a 242/250 cam and revved to almost 7000 rpm.

if he can get it cheap and doesn't mind the work of installing it and uninstalling it if he doesn't like it I say get it. the only way anyone will ever know if they like a stall is to drive it.



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