swapping a tci 6x into my fbody...shifter wiring question
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swapping a tci 6x into my fbody...shifter wiring question
I'm going to be putting a tci 6x into my 2001 Camaro.
I'll be using their stand alone controller for the trans stuff.. and their outlaw shifter.
what I need to know is if there is a way to wire it to the pcm so that the car knows when I am in P/N or in gear for idle airflow reasons
just looking for anybody who can lend advice or tell me where the pcm needs to see the signal at so I can make this thing work to its fullest.
Thanks.
I'll be using their stand alone controller for the trans stuff.. and their outlaw shifter.
what I need to know is if there is a way to wire it to the pcm so that the car knows when I am in P/N or in gear for idle airflow reasons
just looking for anybody who can lend advice or tell me where the pcm needs to see the signal at so I can make this thing work to its fullest.
Thanks.
#3
I'm asking which wires on the pcm are used to to tell if it is in P/N or gear
and if anybody knows if the trans or teh shifter has the signal to send for that purpose...
telling me that I might be able to is not a good response...
if you dont know... then dont respond..
and if anybody knows if the trans or teh shifter has the signal to send for that purpose...
telling me that I might be able to is not a good response...
if you dont know... then dont respond..
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Well, I'm no expert on the Auto trans stuff. but i have to learn soon with my new swap, which will be a 4L60E.. if the PIN assignements in the FAQ is right, but use the the chart.
http://www.ls2.com/boggs/torques/2001pinpcm.htm
Blue Connector:
Pin 33 / PPL / 420 / TCC Brake Switch Signal
Pin 34 / ORN/BLK / 434 / Neutral Safety Switch Signal
not sure if you need other TCC stuff.. but..:
Red Connector:
Pin 2 / BRN / 418 / TCC Solenoid - Output - PWM
Pin 42 / TAN/BLK / 422 / TCC Solenoid Valve Control
http://www.ls2.com/boggs/torques/2001pinpcm.htm
Blue Connector:
Pin 33 / PPL / 420 / TCC Brake Switch Signal
Pin 34 / ORN/BLK / 434 / Neutral Safety Switch Signal
not sure if you need other TCC stuff.. but..:
Red Connector:
Pin 2 / BRN / 418 / TCC Solenoid - Output - PWM
Pin 42 / TAN/BLK / 422 / TCC Solenoid Valve Control
#5
6X. Sweet trany. Nice gear spread. Too bad they couldn't come up with a better OD. only downside is $6000.00 WOW
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Well, I'm no expert on the Auto trans stuff. but i have to learn soon with my new swap, which will be a 4L60E.. if the PIN assignements in the FAQ is right, but use the the chart.
http://www.ls2.com/boggs/torques/2001pinpcm.htm
Blue Connector:
Pin 33 / PPL / 420 / TCC Brake Switch Signal
Pin 34 / ORN/BLK / 434 / Neutral Safety Switch Signal
not sure if you need other TCC stuff.. but..:
Red Connector:
Pin 2 / BRN / 418 / TCC Solenoid - Output - PWM
Pin 42 / TAN/BLK / 422 / TCC Solenoid Valve Control
http://www.ls2.com/boggs/torques/2001pinpcm.htm
Blue Connector:
Pin 33 / PPL / 420 / TCC Brake Switch Signal
Pin 34 / ORN/BLK / 434 / Neutral Safety Switch Signal
not sure if you need other TCC stuff.. but..:
Red Connector:
Pin 2 / BRN / 418 / TCC Solenoid - Output - PWM
Pin 42 / TAN/BLK / 422 / TCC Solenoid Valve Control
I basically needed to know which wires create the signals to say that the trans is in gear or in Park/neutral..
but still not sure of what I'm looking at there...
which wire for PCM Park?
wire for neutral? wire to tell me its in gear?... LOL...
good thing I'll have some qualified help with the install once I buy the thing...
#7
Shop around and you can find a better price than $6000.00 dollar MSRP.
Then again, do this. Price out what it cost to convert to 4L80E.
Cost of core + Cost of building it to hold at least 850 HP + Cost of a TCU and wire harness from vendor of choice. Then add cost of Paddle shifters from any vendor of your choice.
Now subtract that from MSRP & better yet best price you can find and tell me what how much more the 6X cost is vs 4L80E. Should start to look a little better.
Now take into consideration you get a Lifetime Limited Warranty with it, that you want get with a built 4L80E. What's that worth?
As for the 0.75 overdrive, it's no worst than a 4L80E. With 4.55 rear end and 295/45/18 rear tires, I'm at 2200 rpm at 70 MPH and engine is in start of it's power band.
If I put on 315/35/17 rears to get a 12.6 wide tire patch, my RPM at 70 MPH goes up to 2442 RPM at 70 MPH.
Sure, if OD was 0.60, RPM would be 1780, but well out of engine's power band.
That works great for EPA fuel mileage flat land but where I live you can go from 600 ft above sea level to 5285 ft above in 45 minutes, and I'm in Southeast USA. Any way not a lot of level ground, so 0.75 OD is not all that bad so less throttle peddle needed to maintain speed so less strain on engine with it's better mechanical advantage.
I guess a lot depends on how you look at things.
Then again, do this. Price out what it cost to convert to 4L80E.
Cost of core + Cost of building it to hold at least 850 HP + Cost of a TCU and wire harness from vendor of choice. Then add cost of Paddle shifters from any vendor of your choice.
Now subtract that from MSRP & better yet best price you can find and tell me what how much more the 6X cost is vs 4L80E. Should start to look a little better.
Now take into consideration you get a Lifetime Limited Warranty with it, that you want get with a built 4L80E. What's that worth?
As for the 0.75 overdrive, it's no worst than a 4L80E. With 4.55 rear end and 295/45/18 rear tires, I'm at 2200 rpm at 70 MPH and engine is in start of it's power band.
If I put on 315/35/17 rears to get a 12.6 wide tire patch, my RPM at 70 MPH goes up to 2442 RPM at 70 MPH.
Sure, if OD was 0.60, RPM would be 1780, but well out of engine's power band.
That works great for EPA fuel mileage flat land but where I live you can go from 600 ft above sea level to 5285 ft above in 45 minutes, and I'm in Southeast USA. Any way not a lot of level ground, so 0.75 OD is not all that bad so less throttle peddle needed to maintain speed so less strain on engine with it's better mechanical advantage.
I guess a lot depends on how you look at things.
Last edited by poorhousenext; 08-11-2010 at 08:59 PM.
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The TCI shifter should have a switch thats actuated by the shifter mechanism or gates in the shifter. My B&M shifter had just a micro switch that was actuated by a couple tabs that slid under it when the handle was in park or neutral. There was also a second switch for reverse lights.
Maybe you can use this for PNP??
Maybe you can use this for PNP??