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Old 09-13-2010, 11:50 AM
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Talking Simple Cam Swap goes BAD

So I went down to the shop sat. morning to swap the cam and springs. I planned on firing it up that night. I was down to the part where I use the lifter tool to keep them from falling.

AND THEN.......

I stuck a magnet in the pushrod hole and it got stuck in the damn retainer. The bastard magnet broke off down in there.

So all day sat., half a day sunday, and now tonight and I should finally hear it run.

I will post up some pics of the aftermath of breaking a magnet later along with the startup video.

BE CAREFUL OR JUST DONT USE A MAGNET!!!!!!
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well at least you got it right. took alot more time but once you hear your car with new cam it will be worth it.
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Damn man. I always just go to Wal-Mart and buy two 5/16" dowl rods. I think they are only like $.40 each. Cheap insurance and it's guaranteed!!!
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Originally Posted by Silvy6.0
Damn man. I always just go to Wal-Mart and buy two 5/16" dowl rods. I think they are only like $.40 each. Cheap insurance and it's guaranteed!!!
same here. sorry to hear about the bad luck. you will forget about that once she fires up.
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Originally Posted by Silvy6.0
Damn man. I always just go to Wal-Mart and buy two 5/16" dowl rods. I think they are only like $.40 each. Cheap insurance and it's guaranteed!!!
This has worked for me about 20 million times. lol
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i had the same thing happen. i used the dowels and one of the lifters dident want to stay up so i stuck a magnet in there and then got a little worried that it wasent coming out so i yanked on it harder then i broke the magnet in there took all night to get it out, i ended up using that scissor looking tool the doctors use and i was able to get it out.
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So after almost giving completely up, you smoked a joint and then used the hemostats to pull the magnet from the engine. Classic...... Now lets hear it
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That sucks to hear! I used the rods like everyone else, and it worked great.. What cam went in?
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Sucks about the magnet!
Kind off topic but we tried using dowels in two different motors and they didn't look like they were doing anything. We shined a light down and it didn't seem like they'd stop a lifter falling.
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1999 called, they want their cam swap ideas back.

People need to quit using the magnets for this reason alone. I had this happen to me as well back in 2000, and that was the last time I ever used magnets.

Spin the cam in both directions abruptly to throw all the lifters in their retainers, slide 2 steel 5/16 rods in each hole, and pull the cam out.
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Originally Posted by Damian
1999 called, they want their cam swap ideas back.

People need to quit using the magnets for this reason alone. I had this happen to me as well back in 2000, and that was the last time I ever used magnets.

Spin the cam in both directions abruptly to throw all the lifters in their retainers, slide 2 steel 5/16 rods in each hole, and pull the cam out.

Ok so explain to me how I will be doing it since I have an LQ9 and have been told there are no holes to slide dowels into?
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in seven cam swaps i have NEVER used magnets or a tool to hold up the lifters. No problems like you have.
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can someone post pics of the holes to slide the dowels in. i will be tearing into mine this weekend for a cam swap and was going to be using the magnet method but after reading this i am kinda sketchy. would rather go for the sure thing
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Originally Posted by rooster18
can someone post pics of the holes to slide the dowels in. i will be tearing into mine this weekend for a cam swap and was going to be using the magnet method but after reading this i am kinda sketchy. would rather go for the sure thing


These are the two holes, on either side of the elongated "bowtie" behind the cam retainer plate. Insert the dowel rods into those holes after spinning the cam fully in both directions to ensure that the lifters are up in their bores.
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Originally Posted by ss454327
Ok so explain to me how I will be doing it since I have an LQ9 and have been told there are no holes to slide dowels into?
LQ9's have the holes as well. Look at the post above this one for details.
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Shitty, at least you got it though.
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Same here and I had to pull the passanger side head......I also will never use a magnet tool. The $50 in head bolts and gakets sucks but I was so pissed to pull a stock head off and put a stock head back on. My Fiance' ask what was wrong and I told her it was like having a miss-carriage - all that work and nothing to show for it!!!
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Originally Posted by ss454327
Ok so explain to me how I will be doing it since I have an LQ9 and have been told there are no holes to slide dowels into?
Yes sir, it does have the holes.
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Originally Posted by mike c.
in seven cam swaps i have NEVER used magnets or a tool to hold up the lifters. No problems like you have.
Better knock on wood before you attempt another swap! I have done a few swaps with nothing but the retainers holding the lifters up but I got paranoid and now I use the rods.
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i had the same thing happen to me, shitty harbour frieght magnets. sucked, i thought i was gonna have to pull the intake off. after fighting it for 2 hours i got it.



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