Street Racing & Kill Stories - 2013 GT500 priced to sell
ohioborn80
03-15-2012, 10:45 PM
SO the pricing is out. WHats this priced starts at 54,995. Wow wait that is same as a ZL1 camaro. HMMMM..To all those haters saying it was going to be 60-100k. Tried to tell people but they never listen. Convertable is starting at 59,995.
So 650hp vs 580hp...let the wars begin.
http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/pricing/
evolve
03-15-2012, 10:46 PM
Yep. Great price for the car. I want. Now.
ZFreie
03-15-2012, 10:48 PM
What is fords problem and not putting correct tires on their cars!
P265/40-19(F) P285/35-20(R) the tires on the SVT package!
Gonna need 315 DRs at the very least
Stopsign32v
03-15-2012, 10:49 PM
Good kill? Come on man...this is pretty gay.
ohioborn80
03-15-2012, 10:50 PM
What is fords problem and not putting correct tires on their cars!
P265/40-19(F) P285/35-20(R) the tires on the SVT package!
Gonna need 315 DRs at the very least
I do agree though..Kinda like the 235/245 that come on the GT's.
I really can't wait to see it and the ZL1 on the road and spank their ass's.
ohioborn80
03-15-2012, 10:50 PM
Good kill? Come on man...this is pretty gay.
Didn't want to dig up the old ZL1 thread here.
sweet99ss
03-15-2012, 11:46 PM
Should have put this in the bs thread or something.... Way to many no kill threads going on right now for this one to be added. Go dig up that ZL1 thread and post this there
ZFreie
03-15-2012, 11:51 PM
Should have put this in the bs thread or something.... Way to many no kill threads going on right now for this one to be added. Go dig up that ZL1 thread and post this thereI didnt want to say it....fixed it before I got grammar policed
itsslow98
03-16-2012, 12:28 AM
Man what a steal!!!! 55k for a base optioned 2013 GT500 without tax,tags title, or dealer mark up..........ZL1 comes standard with way more then the Gt500 for 55k. Add two options, Recaros and NAV to the Gt500 and your already at the 60k mark.
HELL OF A THREAD!
JR 427
03-16-2012, 01:14 AM
It's going to make for some nice competition.
Nick V.
03-16-2012, 01:29 AM
now to have one rich bastard total one of them so i can steal the engine, magnetic ride, and trans.....
2SSARME
03-16-2012, 01:30 AM
another 13 second ford
The Manalishi
03-16-2012, 01:46 AM
another 13 second ford
I'm no Ford lover but that is a stupid comment.
41863nj
03-16-2012, 02:09 AM
from what i read in motor trend...the ZL1 kicked the boss 302 to the curb, but that wasn't the shelby...soooo gonna be interesting...they ran a 12.1@117...and car & driver ran a 12.3@119 both for the ZL1...not that bad, but i wanted 11's...i think the shelby will take it the 1/4...but everything else should go chevy's way....heard that the ZL1 is 5 steps over a SS...both nice cars though...the boss ran a 12.4 not at all bad considering it's smaller N.A. engine...the shelby is the better looking ford though in my eye's...
F-Body_4_Life
03-16-2012, 06:41 AM
another 13 second ford
It's the 2013 GT500, not a Supra.
why87
03-16-2012, 08:10 AM
It's the 2013 GT500, not a Supra.
To his credit, it's going to be poorly equipped in the tire department (considering the numbers this thing is laying down). It will be interesting to see just what it can do. It will be even more interesting to see how GM responds with the 2013 ZL1.
thunderstruck507
03-16-2012, 08:17 AM
Didn't want to dig up the old ZL1 thread here.
There are at least 3 other threads about this in the new section and lounge...which is where they belong.
Heater
03-16-2012, 08:31 AM
ZL1>GT500
/thread
Randal McSandal
03-16-2012, 09:52 AM
ZL1>GT500
/thread
Coming from a Mustang owner too :usa:
ohioborn80
03-16-2012, 10:05 AM
Man what a steal!!!! 55k for a base optioned 2013 GT500 without tax,tags title, or dealer mark up..........ZL1 comes standard with way more then the Gt500 for 55k. Add two options, Recaros and NAV to the Gt500 and your already at the 60k mark.
HELL OF A THREAD!
The one I built on Ford.com was laoded for 62k...Do sam ething with a ZL1 and they are still even priced. Not sure about Gm but you can still get X Plan pricing on the GT500 which will save a few grand. Not even sure if I can get employing pricing on the ZL1 for my wife working for GM.
ohioborn80
03-16-2012, 10:06 AM
Coming from a Mustang owner too :usa:
You must not realize what he does every time.
redctsv
03-16-2012, 11:03 AM
So where is the Damn Kill story? WTF does this have to do with anything remotely close to a race? Thats it, Im sick of all this ford nut hugging in the SR&K section, especially when it just flat out trolling! Thats it I had enough!
FOLLOW THE LINK AND POST IF YOU AGREE!
http://ls1tech.com/forums/street-racing-kill-stories/1526748-f-ck-you-your-junk-ford.html
GXPPOWER
03-16-2012, 11:16 AM
SO the pricing is out. WHats this priced starts at 54,995. Wow wait that is same as a ZL1 camaro. HMMMM..To all those haters saying it was going to be 60-100k. Tried to tell people but they never listen. Convertable is starting at 59,995.
So 650hp vs 580hp...let the wars begin.
http://www.ford.com/cars/mustang/pricing/
Can we get some Moderators back with some balls that will actually enforce the Rules. Don't see a race, or a kill.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/02/20/will-plymouth-barracuda-make-comeback/
id take that over the rustang.
HioSSilver
03-16-2012, 11:59 AM
I'm not gonna spend 55k on either.
2SSARME
03-16-2012, 12:39 PM
I'm no Ford lover but that is a stupid comment.
650hp with 285s.
Same problem with the current GT500.
Normal drivers throw mid 13s in those all day long.
:punch:
ohioborn80
03-16-2012, 12:43 PM
650hp with 285s.
Same problem with the current GT500.
Normal drivers throw mid 13s in those all day long.
:punch:
KInda like 600-700whp 5th gens running 12-13's.
The Manalishi
03-16-2012, 12:46 PM
650hp with 285s.
Same problem with the current GT500.
Normal drivers throw mid 13s in those all day long.
:punch:
They should probably put in an IRS and fix the traction issues. :punch:
marc97taws6
03-16-2012, 01:39 PM
Coming from a Mustang owner too :usa:
I think he has stirring the pot and using sarcasm.
This thread sucks.
However, I am interested to see how the cars stack up against each other. Dad said he would buy me a brand new Camaro SS when I graduate (December 2013), but I'm not sure if I want one... Maybe when it uses the Alpha platform in like 2015... but even then I doubt it'll shed more than 150lbs
2SSARME
03-16-2012, 01:55 PM
KInda like 600-700whp 5th gens running 12-13's.
The car isn't even finished yet. I just bought toe rods, trailing arms, bushing kit. Waiting on my tires. I never said my car ran 10s lol. I'm just poking fun at your ford boys.
They should probably put in an IRS and fix the traction issues. :punch:
The foxbody with the IRS actually has better traction now than before. There's a turbo foxbody running around here with an IRS setup and also has pretty kick ass traction.
These are not TRACK cars. They are street race cars and the streets here are not comparable to yours in the US.
1TFROT
03-16-2012, 02:16 PM
ZL1>GT500
/thread
agreed. and quoted for truth
Mike Morris
03-16-2012, 02:54 PM
650hp with 285s.
Same problem with the current GT500.
Normal drivers throw mid 13s in those all day long.
:punch:
Yup
KInda like 600-700whp 5th gens running 12-13's.
Yup
The car isn't even finished yet. I just bought toe rods, trailing arms, bushing kit. Waiting on my tires. I never said my car ran 10s lol. I'm just poking fun at your ford boys.
The foxbody with the IRS actually has better traction now than before. There's a turbo foxbody running around here with an IRS setup and also has pretty kick ass traction.
These are not TRACK cars. They are street race cars and the streets here are not comparable to yours in the US.
I just can't see IRS helping that monster....
Ohio wait till the car is out. All we can do is speculate. Plus the mark up on a GT500 may make it more-here they are always marked up. I have not seen a ZL1 on the lot yet so I don't know if dealers are ripping people off on that car too.
ohioborn80
03-16-2012, 02:58 PM
Ohio wait till the car is out. All we can do is speculate. Plus the mark up on a GT500 may make it more-here they are always marked up. I have not seen a ZL1 on the lot yet so I don't know if dealers are ripping people off on that car too.
I think differnet area's will have different mark ups.
On side note for ZL1 dealer wife works at just got a notice that they are behind on shipping them out as they had put production on hold for a minute...BUt t hey shoudl still get the ones they have do in before August.
2SSARME
03-16-2012, 03:17 PM
Yup
Ohio wait till the car is out. All we can do is speculate. Plus the mark up on a GT500 may make it more-here they are always marked up. I have not seen a ZL1 on the lot yet so I don't know if dealers are ripping people off on that car too.
It already has. He use to spin more than me on 220treadware 21s. The streets here require 40 or below literally. Now with the IRS he spins with me and I can't even get one car on him from a dig. Before I would get 2-3 until he'd hook up and it was game over.
The turbo foxbody also has a similar setup. It was running at 500rwhp or something like that and now owner claims to have 750. 302 stroked 331 with some little turbo pushing 20psi..... Absolutely clueless on setup or numbers but he's going to run me next week so we will see what's up.
Also got a run with a cammed/tuned c6z06 on tuesday/wednesday.
unit213
03-16-2012, 04:25 PM
Can we get some Moderators back with some balls that will actually enforce the Rules.
Is that what you want? Be careful what you wish for... ;) You probably would've been banned a long time ago if that were the case.
The Manalishi
03-16-2012, 04:39 PM
Is that what you want? Be careful what you wish for... ;) You probably would've been banned a long time ago if that were the case.
You ain't got the balls. :devil:
Heater
03-16-2012, 06:29 PM
You ain't got the balls. :devil:
LoL, stirring the pot there huh?
Z28GONZO
03-16-2012, 06:39 PM
Delete this bullshit thread where is the kill??
Z28GONZO
03-16-2012, 06:42 PM
Enforce your Rule UNIT213 and lock this thread!!!
The Manalishi
03-16-2012, 08:19 PM
Enforce your Rule UNIT213 and lock this thread!!!
Easy killer.
unit213
03-16-2012, 09:13 PM
Enforce your Rule UNIT213 and lock this thread!!!
Hey new guy...relax. ;)
ZFreie
03-16-2012, 09:15 PM
Hey new guy...relax. ;)Takes new people awhile to realize the mods work in strange and mysterious ways, when I first ended up here my thought was "Holy shit this place is out of control" lol :usa: Wouldn't want it any other way now lol
kewlv8
03-16-2012, 09:32 PM
........ZL1 comes standard with way more then the Gt500 for 55k. !
Yeh, the Gas Guzzler tax comes standard, and the extra 250lbs. :eyes:
jbhotrod
03-17-2012, 12:59 AM
They should probably put in an IRS and fix the traction issues. :punch:
LOL!
2SS, have you seen the dyno sheet for the turbo fox? Those blocks dont do too well over 500hp, with it at 750 that thing is a time bomb with a pretty short fuse if its not an aftermarket block.
Btw, just wondering but are in Brazil? Ive seen you mention youre in South America and something like the third world sucks?
The Manalishi
03-17-2012, 01:13 AM
LOL!
2SS, have you seen the dyno sheet for the turbo fox? Those blocks dont do too well over 500hp, with it at 750 that thing is a time bomb with a pretty short fuse if its not an aftermarket block.
Btw, just wondering but are in Brazil? Ive seen you mention youre in South America and something like the third world sucks?
He's in Panama.
Blown383LS1
03-17-2012, 02:11 AM
So where is the Damn Kill story? WTF does this have to do with anything remotely close to a race? Thats it, Im sick of all this ford nut hugging in the SR&K section, especially when it just flat out trolling! Thats it I had enough!
FOLLOW THE LINK AND POST IF YOU AGREE!
http://ls1tech.com/forums/street-racing-kill-stories/1526748-f-ck-you-your-junk-ford.html
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad311/Blown383ls1/He_mad.jpg
hugger1975
03-17-2012, 06:59 AM
I missed some good stuff last night :-(
liqidvenom
03-17-2012, 02:58 PM
So the gt500 doesnt come stock with a locking diff if you dont order the performance package? or is that just a better locker?
sweet99ss
03-17-2012, 04:37 PM
ZL1 vs Gt500
Weight-4,120 vs 3,850
Horsepower-580 vs 650
Tires-305 vs 285
Handling-ZL1
1/4 mile-Gt500
It depends what you want in a car really. The ZL1 will ride much better with the magnetic suspension and will corner 10x better for sure. Speaking stock vs stock the ZL1 will likely get to 60 faster and after that the gt500 will pull with a slight hp advantage and 270lb less weight. Lets all not forget how FORD likes to advertise hp a little bit high while CHEVY usually down plays the hp numbers a little bit so not to piss off the vette owners. I think the Horsepower will actually be very close on a dyno, but the weight advantage will give the Gt500 an advantage....
chaman
03-17-2012, 04:43 PM
Hey new guy...relax. ;)
Noobs have boobs.
ohioborn80
03-17-2012, 05:11 PM
ZL1 vs Gt500
Weight-4,120 vs 3,850
Horsepower-580 vs 650
Tires-305 vs 285
Handling-ZL1
1/4 mile-Gt500
It depends what you want in a car really. The ZL1 will ride much better with the magnetic suspension and will corner 10x better for sure. Speaking stock vs stock the ZL1 will likely get to 60 faster and after that the gt500 will pull with a slight hp advantage and 270lb less weight. Lets all not forget how FORD likes to advertise hp a little bit high while CHEVY usually down plays the hp numbers a little bit so not to piss off the vette owners. I think the Horsepower will actually be very close on a dyno, but the weight advantage will give the Gt500 an advantage....
Only thing I would really say is Ford has been pretty accurate with numbers on the new stangs. The GT500 was rated at 550 and made 480-490 stock to wheels. The GTrated at 412 put average of 375 down. How is that rating high?
Biggest advantage I like with ZL1 is can get in auto. A nice stall and tire and it should move out pretty good.
liqidvenom
03-17-2012, 05:18 PM
Only thing I would really say is Ford has been pretty accurate with numbers on the new stangs. The GT500 was rated at 550 and made 480-490 stock to wheels. The GTrated at 412 put average of 375 down. How is that rating high?
Biggest advantage I like with ZL1 is can get in auto. A nice stall and tire and it should move out pretty good.
any insight on the diff option? I really hope that a performance vehicle has a locking rear stock and not something which needs to be ordered as an option for extra money.
LightningTeg
03-17-2012, 05:22 PM
I wouldnt buy either car If I wanted something that could turn well. How many Mustangs or Camaros do you see at AutoX's or even track days?
Not very many
liqidvenom
03-17-2012, 05:27 PM
I see mustangs at track days all over.... not so many camaros but mustangs of all gens are out at nearly every even i've been to.
I have started to see some 5th gen camaros at some events, but i think those are a better starting point then the camaros that came before it for a easy track vehicle.
ohioborn80
03-17-2012, 06:07 PM
any insight on the diff option? I really hope that a performance vehicle has a locking rear stock and not something which needs to be ordered as an option for extra money.
Far as racking it does come with one. The SVT package gets upgraded clutch and such.
ohioborn80
03-17-2012, 06:08 PM
I wouldnt buy either car If I wanted something that could turn well. How many Mustangs or Camaros do you see at AutoX's or even track days?
Not very many
Look up American Iron. Buddy runs it and its all camaros and mustangs.