Street Racing & Kill Stories - intake only 2006 GTO vs eaton swapped Mach 1 **VID**

Little background to the story...the mach 1 owner who is a freind of a freind called out the GTO on facebook, and was acting kinda smug about the whole thing. He was saying he was just bolt on/tune and saying he'd love to race the GTO and show us what the mach 1 was made of. Well through the grapevine, we found out it had a stock eaton swap off a cobra and I think this kid basically thought he was going to walk all over us. We accepted the race anyways and I don't think he was very happy with the outcome...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6XXbmYEmc4&feature=youtu.be

And before all the ford guys start bitching that he started at too low of a gear, we agreed and had another run afterwards...both cars in 2nd. Unfortunately, my shit camera battery died beforehand, but basically we got him by about a car in that race. He had no excuses to bring up, and went home a little upset I think. Don't talk smack if ya can't back it up.

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Nice Mach, looks like it needs a smaller pulley? How much power is it making?

They guy's look on his face was priceless. :judge:

Mach1 defenders have been alerted.

Stand by for deployment.

Seems about right to me...

LOL nice!

Waiting for Stoppy's rebuttal :jest:

Seems off...the Mach needs a tune/driver Mod...he should be makin at least 400 Rwhp assuming 8psi and M5 and his car is lighter, GTO shoud be makin ab 360 rwhp and is ab 400 lbs heavier stock, a win is a win but if he gets his car tuned right it would be night and day

Take what you can get a win is a win. Was it the stock motor with the s/c taken off a cobra? If ao wouldnt it be less power then a termi?

Take what you can get a win is a win. Was it the stock motor with the s/c taken off a cobra? If ao wouldnt it be less power then a termi?

Possibly more with the Mach having higher compression, but it has a ceiling with the glass rods.

Nice pull. Driver mod needed for sure, but you got the win. Post up facebook comments and quotes. LOL

Good kill! Damn turdy Eaton powered mod motors! :D

That's a good vid!

I'm sure driver mod is next but a win is a win.

Nice Mach, looks like it needs a smaller pulley? How much power is it making?

They guy's look on his face was priceless. :judge:

It's got the stock pulley currently. Not sure on the power since he hasn't had it dyno'd yet. I'd assume it's close to what a stock cobra would make?

Seems off...the Mach needs a tune/driver Mod...he should be makin at least 400 Rwhp assuming 8psi and M5 and his car is lighter, GTO shoud be makin ab 360 rwhp and is ab 400 lbs heavier stock, a win is a win but if he gets his car tuned right it would be night and day

GTO put down 371 RWHP. And I'm sure the mach could use a bit of a driver mod, but in the 2nd gear race we had, the GTO pulled him the second we got on the gas. As I said, it was a bit closer with both cars in 2nd, but the mach 1 just straight out got pulled. I'm not too sure what they are supposed to make with that setup. As far as weight difference, IDK about 400 lbs. GTO's are around 3700 and the mach does have the added supercharger weight. I would think it'd be less than a 400 lbs difference.

Take what you can get a win is a win. Was it the stock motor with the s/c taken off a cobra? If ao wouldnt it be less power then a termi?

Yes, stock mach 1 engine with the cobra's eaton on it. And I would think it should be slightly more power than a cobra with the machs higher compression. Who knows. He hasn't had it on a dyno like I said earlier.

Nice pull. Driver mod needed for sure, but you got the win. Post up facebook comments and quotes. LOL

LOL, I could try, but I'm not sure how to do it? Copy and paste?

Heres the FB conversation. I'm Robert and my brother (GTO owner) is Scott. Runyon is the freind of the mach 1 guy and we were commenting on a pic he put up of his new 2000 saleen S281. Andrew is the mach 1 owner.


Robert: Ooooh, I like the white! Line it up with the GTO! Haha. May 1 at 7:38am

Runyon: Gto will walk me! Hahahaha May 1 at 7:39am

Robert: You really think so? I know those stangs are just 2 valves but I figured it'd be a decent race with the supercharger on it. Either way, nice ride. May 1 at 7:44am

Andrew: Line them up I'll get in it with mine too May 1 at 7:47am

Runyon: I'd like to be in the mach 1 for the gto race May 1 at 7:50am

Andrew: Let's do it I'm down May 1 at 7:51am

Robert: Whats done to the mach 1?? The GTO fears no man, LMAO. May 1 at 6:01pm

Andrew: It's got a tune .... I'll do it Mach fears no gto May 1 at 6:06pm

Scott: Dig, roll...you name it. I love snacking on the occasional mustang! lolMay 1 at 6:09pm

Andrew: Doesn't matter to me May 1 at 9:09pm

Runyon: There are now 2 mustang owners that have now commented on this photo that would hurt a gto. And unfortunately I'm not one of the owners..... May 1 at 9:09pm

Andrew: Hahahaha I wanna see what my little stock Mach will do against a gto May 1 at 9:12pm

Runyon: Your not stock, your tuned!!!!! May 1 at 9:13pm

Andrew: Well yeah besides little bolt ons May 1 at 9:15pm

Robert: tuned, lol....didn't you put joey's stock eaton on your car? If it's stock boost, I think it'd be a decent run....not a total blowout. Only one way to find out! May 1 at 9:25pm

Andrew: Nope stock we can do it I'm down May 1 at 9:26pm ·

Robert: Sweet, were always down for a freindly run. This weekend maybe? Were prob going to the pike. Maybe on the way down or something if you wanted to go.

I've never got into a race cause of FB

:-(

Take the eaton off for better results :burn:

Nice kill. I spannked on on the interstate yesterday that had gauges on his pillar. I walked him hard and let out and he stayed in it till he passed me. My wife even was liek heh does realize he just got spanked right.

Basically stock GTO whoops a supercharged mach1?
Am i supposed to be impressEd?

Hey! Breaking new, the sky is blue and water is wet!!!

Take the eaton off for this results :turd:

Fixed it for ya.

I've never got into a race cause of FB

:-(

Neither have we before this...first time for everything I guess, lol.

Take the eaton off for better results :burn:

I've seen a few vids of bolt on mach 1's getting beat pretty good by stock or mildly modded GTO's. This one just didn't perform like we thought it would though with the eaton. Maybe with a better driver it would have been closer, but I don't know if the mach 1 had the steam to out pull the GTO. Every race it seemed like right at the peak of it's powerband, it would gain some ground, but then he'd shift and the GTO would have so much more mid range pull.

BTW, we found out the mach 1 made 416/367 on a dynojet. And the kid thinks it weighs in the 3600 lbs range. Plus, they don't call them "heaton's" for nothing. Like I said, don't think the mach would have beaten the GTO regardless of driver.

Good kill! That Mach 1 looks awesome. That's my favorite color on those.

Take the eaton off for better results :burn:

+1...MACH with bolt-ons alone would do better than that..I am pretty sure of that.

it kind of looked like the mach was starting to pull back at the top of that gear...was that 3rd? so you guys were going what 105ish? i think had you ran it out he would've caught you. either way, good kill with a stock car vs a(nother) v8 that had positive manifold pressure haha.

it kind of looked like the mach was starting to pull back at the top of that gear...was that 3rd? so you guys were going what 105ish? i think had you ran it out he would've caught you. either way, good kill with a stock car vs a(nother) v8 that had positive manifold pressure haha.

Thanks man! In that run on vid, the GTO started in second and let off at the top of 4th, so prob around 135 mph or so. Mach 1 was not going to catch up. The mach started in 3rd and let off at the top of 4th as well. We raced again with both cars in 2nd, and by the top of 4th, the GTO had about a car on the mach. But yea, I think the GTO did pretty well all things considered lol.

ok, i couldn't hear or tell what gear yall were in. i guess i shouldn't judge how long it would take my slowass ta to get to the top of 3rd by your video haha. awesome kill(s).

ok, i couldn't hear or tell what gear yall were in. i guess i shouldn't judge how long it would take my slowass ta to get to the top of 3rd by your video haha. awesome kill(s).

LMAO...yea, everyone comments about how quiet the GTO is and how it sounds like a hybrid. Kind of the point though when you want to keep the stock exhaust on. Couldn't even hear the GTO chirp 3rd gear over the blower whine on the mach!

So he slaps a supercharger on a mach1 and doesn't dyno it, so he hasn't tuned it?? No wonder he lost the race. Some people should just stick to watching the speed channel. Good kill.

So he slaps a supercharger on a mach1 and doesn't dyno it, so he hasn't tuned it?? No wonder he lost the race. Some people should just stick to watching the speed channel. Good kill.

Agreed...very poor display of performace for the MACH. Knowing that the car was not dyno'ed and possibly not tuned, why would he talk smack in the first place? In my opinion, he was just setting himself up to look foolish...and he did after that beat down.
Regardless, the better running car won no matter how you look at it. All the "should have", "would have" or "could have" does not change the facts.
Good run OP and way to shut him up!

So he slaps a supercharger on a mach1 and doesn't dyno it, so he hasn't tuned it?? No wonder he lost the race. Some people should just stick to watching the speed channel. Good kill.

I listed it above a few posts but you must have missed it. Found out he did in fact have it tuned on a dyno. Car made 416/367 on a dynojet. Him and all his buddies are scratching thier heads wondering WTF happened. IDK...All I can tell you is that we raced a few times and this was the general result every time. I'm sure he could benefit from the driver mod too.

Agreed...very poor display of performace for the MACH. Knowing that the car was not dyno'ed and possibly not tuned, why would he talk smack in the first place? In my opinion, he was just setting himself up to look foolish...and he did after that beat down.
Regardless, the better running car won no matter how you look at it. All the "should have", "would have" or "could have" does not change the facts.
Good run OP and way to shut him up!

See above for the most part. Like I said, not sure what happened because even in gear he wasn't pulling much on the GTO in any of the runs. He even told us after the runs that he needs to learn to shift like my brother, lol. But thanks for the props man...always nice to leave someone scratching thier head after they were so sure they had it in the bag. :jest:

I listed it above a few posts but you must have missed it. Found out he did in fact have it tuned on a dyno. Car made 416/367 on a dynojet. Him and all his buddies are scratching thier heads wondering WTF happened. IDK...All I can tell you is that we raced a few times and this was the general result every time. I'm sure he could benefit from the driver mod too.



See above for the most part. Like I said, not sure what happened because even in gear he wasn't pulling much on the GTO in any of the runs. He even told us after the runs that he needs to learn to shift like my brother, lol. But thanks for the props man...always nice to leave someone scratching thier head after they were so sure they had it in the bag. :jest:
Now you see what a not so good driver does to cars??? I hope yal can understand about the Gto now

I listed it above a few posts but you must have missed it. Found out he did in fact have it tuned on a dyno. Car made 416/367 on a dynojet. Him and all his buddies are scratching thier heads wondering WTF happened. IDK...All I can tell you is that we raced a few times and this was the general result every time. I'm sure he could benefit from the driver mod too.



See above for the most part. Like I said, not sure what happened because even in gear he wasn't pulling much on the GTO in any of the runs. He even told us after the runs that he needs to learn to shift like my brother, lol. But thanks for the props man...always nice to leave someone scratching thier head after they were so sure they had it in the bag. :jest:

You guys comin for my job???

Ju1ce, why don't you post as much as you used to? :rotflmao:

I listed it above a few posts but you must have missed it. Found out he did in fact have it tuned on a dyno. Car made 416/367 on a dynojet. Him and all his buddies are scratching thier heads wondering WTF happened. IDK...All I can tell you is that we raced a few times and this was the general result every time. I'm sure he could benefit from the driver mod too.



See above for the most part. Like I said, not sure what happened because even in gear he wasn't pulling much on the GTO in any of the runs. He even told us after the runs that he needs to learn to shift like my brother, lol. But thanks for the props man...always nice to leave someone scratching thier head after they were so sure they had it in the bag. :jest:

Well in that case that makes no sense aside from driver error. I figured it made sense before since my car put down around 380/363 with the break in tune I was sent just to get the car to the tuning shop. So had that been the case the outcome would've made sense.

You guys comin for my job???

Were interviewing...How are we doing so far? LOL, the spirit of your GTO will live on in my brothers now.

That Mach looks really good from the front.

That Mach looks really good from the front.

The rears are pretty nice looking too, but we never got to see that part :jest:

A Mach 1 cant lose to a GTO sorry...


according to SVTP close to stock Mach 1's have the advantage over LS2 GTOs


bolt ons only they run low 12's


With Cams they trap 120 in the 1/4 full weight....
but then lose to bolt on C5 Z06's :jest:

A cammed mach1 beat me stock 60-120 roll, just barely by about a car though.

A Mach 1 cant lose to a GTO sorry...


according to SVTP close to stock Mach 1's have the advantage over LS2 GTOs


bolt ons only they run low 12's


With Cams they trap 120 in the 1/4 full weight....
but then lose to bolt on C5 Z06's :jest:

Took the words right outta my keyboard.

A cammed mach1 beat me stock 60-120 roll, just barely by about a car though.

Love the color on your goat...that orange gets me every time! You take yours to the track? Curious what it ran with your mods since thats basically all my brother is looking to do to his. He wants some 3.91 gears and possibly longtubes but with the stock exhaust.

Love the color on your goat...that orange gets me every time! You take yours to the track? Curious what it ran with your mods since thats basically all my brother is looking to do to his. He wants some 3.91 gears and possibly longtubes but with the stock exhaust.

Can't put the power down. It spins first, second, and a little in third. Stock trapped 106, With mods it traps 105 lol.

Its a highway beast though, 4th gear pulls like crazy.

+1...MACH with bolt-ons alone would do better than that..I am pretty sure of that.

I am positive lol a mach does not need a heaton for a close to stock gto :jest:

Did you ever get your build done automach?

Did you ever get your build done automach?

Yes it is done but not ready to race quite yet ;)

I am positive lol a mach does not need a heaton for a close to stock gto :jest:

We'd love to line up with a bolt on mach 1. I personally think the GTO has a lot more top end, but we can do rolls, digs, whatever. The GTO actually launches decent, but it really shines from a roll.

We'd love to line up with a bolt on mach 1. I personally think the GTO has a lot more top end, but we can do rolls, digs, whatever. The GTO actually launches decent, but it really shines from a roll.

My car ran several gtos when it was a bolton car I know how it goes ;)

My car ran several gtos when it was a bolton car I know how it goes ;)

Too bad you didn't run this GTO though. Like I said, I have a pretty good idea of how it would go as well. ;)

Hopefully we can get the car to the strip soon to get some numbers. Thinking it'll trap around 110ish.

Too bad you didn't run this GTO though. Like I said, I have a pretty good idea of how it would go as well. ;)

Hopefully we can get the car to the strip soon to get some numbers. Thinking it'll trap around 110ish.

There are 2 certain bolt on Mach 1's on SVTP that I put 3-4 CL's on from a roll that constantly claim to kill stock and bolt on LS2 GTO's I just dont see how.....

I refuse to argue about it anymore because all that comes up is "Mach's have gone 13.0" and are dead even with LS1's which are dead even with LS2 GTO's because Ford + N/A 4.6 = Gods Engine

Still waiting to run across one of these super fast bolt on Mach's....nothing against them just want to see because everyone I run theres an excuse about the driver being bad or starting in the wrong gear..

dont even get me started about what those magical 4.10 gears do for them lol

Too bad you didn't run this GTO though. Like I said, I have a pretty good idea of how it would go as well. ;)

Hopefully we can get the car to the strip soon to get some numbers. Thinking it'll trap around 110ish.

I trapped 113.2 corrected for da with mild boltons so I know how it would go too :cool:

We'd love to line up with a bolt on mach 1. I personally think the GTO has a lot more top end, but we can do rolls, digs, whatever. The GTO actually launches decent, but it really shines from a roll.

I would put my money on the GTO based on personal experience. Drove my buddies 04 GTO w/ gutted cats and K&N intake vs. other buddies 03 Mach w/K&N intake, accufab tb, catback, tune, 4.10 and nitto R's. Mach would pull about a car in 1st gear but the GTO would end up 1-2 cars by 120ish.

I trapped 113.2 corrected for da with mild boltons so I know how it would go too :cool:

Im not seeing a bolt on only mach 1 trap that high without some good weight taken out. They make about 325 RWHP with bolt ons and weigh what, 3500 lbs? I'd give a true bolt on, stock weight mach 1 108 mph tops for a trap speed.

I would put my money on the GTO based on personal experience. Drove my buddies 04 GTO w/ gutted cats and K&N intake vs. other buddies 03 Mach w/K&N intake, accufab tb, catback, tune, 4.10 and nitto R's. Mach would pull about a car in 1st gear but the GTO would end up 1-2 cars by 120ish.

Based on my personal experience as well, mach 1's just aren't as impressive these days. Back when the LS1 F bodies were still new, the mach 1's would give them decent matches, but from what I saw, the LS1 F bodies ussually had the upper hand around here...and an LS2 GTO is a bit faster than an LS1 F body.

Im not seeing a bolt on only mach 1 trap that high without some good weight taken out. They make about 325 RWHP with bolt ons and weigh what, 3500 lbs? I'd give a true bolt on, stock weight mach 1 108 mph tops for a trap speed.


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298sae aprx weight was 3460-3500 with driver it went 113.2 corrected.

I dont get it. His car was supercharged, he should have walked you...did you cheat? or did he throw the race to you?

298sae aprx weight was 3460-3500 with driver it went 113.2 corrected.

Sounds light for that being the weight with you in it. And what mph did it do uncorrected? Because I believe the GTO will do 110 mph uncorrected, granted the DA here is most likely different than where you are. Regardless, around here, I don't remember seeing any super fast bolt on mach 1's, but I keep an open mind.

I dont get it. His car was supercharged, he should have walked you...did you cheat? or did he throw the race to you?

Just before we raced when the kid wasn't looking, I put a nut and bolt on his throttle blade to limit it to open 3/4 of the way. :secret2:

Sounds light for that being the weight with you in it. And what mph did it do uncorrected? Because I believe the GTO will do 110 mph uncorrected, granted the DA here is most likely different than where you are. Regardless, around here, I don't remember seeing any super fast bolt on mach 1's, but I keep an open mind.



Just before we raced when the kid wasn't looking, I put a nut and bolt on his throttle blade to limit it to open 3/4 of the way. :secret2:

nice move buddy

Sounds light for that being the weight with you in it. And what mph did it do uncorrected? Because I believe the GTO will do 110 mph uncorrected, granted the DA here is most likely different than where you are. Regardless, around here, I don't remember seeing any super fast bolt on mach 1's, but I keep an open mind.



Just before we raced when the kid wasn't looking, I put a nut and bolt on his throttle blade to limit it to open 3/4 of the way. :secret2:

uncorected was a touch under 112. I am curious to see what this gto traps now. Weight was about 100-150lbs under stock weight. So it was actually somewhat close to full weight :cool:

Im not seeing a bolt on only mach 1 trap that high without some good weight taken out. They make about 325 RWHP with bolt ons and weigh what, 3500 lbs? I'd give a true bolt on, stock weight mach 1 108 mph tops for a trap speed.



LOL I trapped 108mph with mods in sig, not to mention on bias ply tires. FULL WEIGHT minus the front sway bar. (7lbs)

I think it's funny that this is the only forum I visit where anyone defends mach 1's. Around here, mach 1's are an after thought and no one even races those turds anymore. my .02

I think it's funny that this is the only forum I visit where anyone defends mach 1's. Around here, mach 1's are an after thought and no one even races those turds anymore. my .02

pretty sure a mach 1 would tear your shit up.

pretty sure a mach 1 would tear your shit up.

Good thing everyone around here thought they were turds and traded them in on 5.0s or termi's, or I might run into one and be f'd in the A.

I think it's funny that this is the only forum I visit where anyone defends mach 1's. Around here, mach 1's are an after thought and no one even races those turds anymore. my .02

:jest: wait :jest:

I think it's funny that this is the only forum I visit where anyone defends mach 1's. Around here, mach 1's are an after thought and no one even races those turds anymore. my .02

I'd give your car a whirl and we could see what happened.

I'd give your car a whirl and we could see what happened.

Lets do this. Coming to FL anytime soon?

Lets do this. Coming to FL anytime soon?

Nope. I run in GA which is a state south from me and a state north for you.

Nope. I run in GA which is a state south from me and a state north for you.

You bragged about beating an LT1 last week. LT1 is a cakewalk, an LS1 will have you on your knees cupping his balls. Back off while you're still ahead kid.

Nope. I run in GA which is a state south from me and a state north for you.

I wonder if we did end up racing what people would say when you lost? That you're a bad driver or that I'm spraying?

I wonder if we did end up racing what people would say when you lost? That you're a bad driver or that I'm spraying?

Maybe both

Maybe both

:lol:

I think it's funny that this is the only forum I visit where anyone defends mach 1's. Around here, mach 1's are an after thought and no one even races those turds anymore. my .02

How dare you speak the truth. The guys on SVTP cried a f*ckin river when I said this LOL
http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/files/2011/08/Silverman-Ragecomic-Face.jpg

Who could ever forget that one guy who actually believed he trapped 120 in the 1/4 in a full weight mach 1 with cams
http://qph.cf.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8ddaa1dcd36aa180a79263eda8640fee

Mach 1 needs a driver mod that's for sure. I can tell by watching the video he started off in a higher gear and was going to pull back up and he let off. Eaton swap Mach would eat a stock Gto alive that's for sure.

You're a stang owner now, huh? :nod:

Traded my TA for it lmao. I should start a thread about it lol

Plans for it?

Been trying to find a donor 03-04 cobra car. Eaton swap and tune on e85 ofc later swap blower out for a kb or Whipple.

ls1tech, where 298whp machs trap "a hair under 112" @ "full weight." Right. I guess I was doing it wrong in my 3360lb 3v that made 330whp and trapped 110.

What was done to your 3v?

I wonder if we did end up racing what people would say when you lost? That you're a bad driver or that I'm spraying?

Oh how I wish I still had my "turd".... There are machs that race in the orlando area often and they post the videos on svtp, I'm sure they'd be honored to shut that big mouth.

uncorected was a touch under 112. I am curious to see what this gto traps now. Weight was about 100-150lbs under stock weight. So it was actually somewhat close to full weight :cool:

The GTO's are pigs stock weight. If you can manage to take weight off them though, they get quick. They have an awesome drivetrain though, and it doesn't take much to put down 400 RWHP. Will hopefully make it to the strip in the next week or two and I'll report results.

LOL I trapped 108mph with mods in sig, not to mention on bias ply tires. FULL WEIGHT minus the front sway bar. (7lbs)

LS2 GTO's trap that bone stock. With similiar mods to you, I'd think they'd trap 114 or so.

Mach 1 needs a driver mod that's for sure. I can tell by watching the video he started off in a higher gear and was going to pull back up and he let off. Eaton swap Mach would eat a stock Gto alive that's for sure.

I've mentioned it a bunch of times now, but they raced 4 times and the GTO was out front every time. The mach did start in 3rd this run, but afterwards, they went from 2nd gear and the GTO took the win by a bit. We met up with all the stang guys yesterday and they told us they are still clueless as to what happened. LOL, guess we made them think. I agree that the mach needs a driver though.

And I don't think a stock eaton swapped mach 1 would "eat a GTO alive" personally. Edge it out...yea with a good driver I can see.

I think every ford has a bit of Dyno queen in it......even mine;)

Automach, have you drove your new build yet? A n/a build of that engine interests me, even though I don't expect much out of them.

We should get a few cars together and run an LSX train on that Mach 1. CHOO-CHOO!

LS2 GTO's trap that bone stock. With similiar mods to you, I'd think they'd trap 114 or so.


So? I'm replying to you saying that a true bolt on Mach 1 will trap 108mph "tops".

I think every ford has a bit of Dyno queen in it......even mine;)

Automach, have you drove your new build yet? A n/a build of that engine interests me, even though I don't expect much out of them.

Dyno queens lol yea I put 75 miles on it this past weekend

What was done to your 3v?

CAI, nsr cams, delete plates, LT's, 4.10's, udp's, tune and it weighed 3360 w/o me. ran 12.60@110 with a 1.73 on street tires about 1500ft da.

Mach's can run pretty good. My buddy has an 01 cobra that went 12.6@111 3320lb w/o him, 98 cobra cams, ported intake, pullies, CAI, tune, LT's, 3:73's, intake spacer. A fully bolted Mach will make 340ish whp.

The GTO's are pigs stock weight. If you can manage to take weight off them though, they get quick. They have an awesome drivetrain though, and it doesn't take much to put down 400 RWHP. Will hopefully make it to the strip in the next week or two and I'll report results.



LS2 GTO's trap that bone stock. With similiar mods to you, I'd think they'd trap 114 or so.



I've mentioned it a bunch of times now, but they raced 4 times and the GTO was out front every time. The mach did start in 3rd this run, but afterwards, they went from 2nd gear and the GTO took the win by a bit. We met up with all the stang guys yesterday and they told us they are still clueless as to what happened. LOL, guess we made them think. I agree that the mach needs a driver though.

And I don't think a stock eaton swapped mach 1 would "eat a GTO alive" personally. Edge it out...yea with a good driver I can see.

A 2003-04 cobra is faster than a Gto not buy to much though. If the eaton swap is done right on a mach it will beat a stock or even tuned termi just because the compression is higher on the Mach. Ofc you can't run as much boost as you can do on the termi.

I think every ford has a bit of Dyno queen in it......even mine;)

Automach, have you drove your new build yet? A n/a build of that engine interests me, even though I don't expect much out of them.

Put that FORD in your signature!!!! :nod: ;)

The question is does those 340rwhp machs run like a 340rwhp car should. I have yet to se a n/a mod motor do that.

Put that FORD in your signature!!!! :nod: ;)

I will! Lol

Well my mustang did 110 trap with 3360lb and 330whp and my buddies cobra did 111 with 3320 and XXXwhp. Do the math. Not to bench race but its probably right around 340whp. BTW, that was same track, same day both have driver mod, both on street tires.

Put that FORD in your signature!!!! :nod: ;)

I will put mine in my signature as soon as this damn rain stops :mad:

When I was around that HP (actually 305 on a mustang Dyno) I trapped almost 113 at full weight.

When I was around that HP (actually 305 on a mustang Dyno) I trapped almost 113 at full weight.

Lol at San Antonio raceway my friend was trapping 114 and he was pushing a ill over 400rwhp in his cammed fbody. Your shit is a beast. My cammed fbody was trapping also 114 here. My cam and head fbody was trapping 120 and that's with a ported fast 2.5 prc 5.3 heads and a 228r cam.

I'm not sure how our tracks compare but 114 for a cammed ls car is really low for here. When I did that my car only had a few boltons and still had a ls1 intake on it.

Damn. Well I had stock gears I was on a ls6 intake ported tb and I was running the 224/230 cam was 581/592 lift on a 114. Had true duals and bolt ons. That's sucks lol

My TA made 432rwhp 401tq on a ls6 intake and stock inj. I switch it to a ported fast 90/90 still had stock inj and that's when it trap 120 rolling it out though :/

Mach's can run pretty good. My buddy has an 01 cobra that went 12.6@111 3320lb w/o him, 98 cobra cams, ported intake, pullies, CAI, tune, LT's, 3:73's, intake spacer. A fully bolted Mach will make 340ish whp.

No they won't. 315-325 is normal for a FULL bolt-on Mach 1.

No they won't. 315-325 is normal for a FULL bolt-on Mach 1.

without long tubes maybe. Didn't stopsign32v make 308 with intake/x-pipe/catback?

I'm not sure how our tracks compare but 114 for a cammed ls car is really low for here. When I did that my car only had a few boltons and still had a ls1 intake on it.

How did you accomplish this? +7mph over stock with a "few" bolt-ons? What's your secret?

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/99-04/43829-most-hp-bolt-mach-1-a.html

How did you accomplish this? +7mph over stock with a "few" bolt-ons? What's your secret?

Probably weight if anything and great air. That's a huge gain.

without long tubes maybe. Didn't stopsign32v make 308 with intake/x-pipe/catback?

I don't know what his car made but I will tell you that 95% of full Bolt-on Mach 1's will see between 315-325. Of course you have those who consider 98 Cobra cams and ported short runner intakes "Bolt-ons".

Lol was reading that thread and some think a well built NA mach 1 will beat a zo6 c6. :jest:

my lid muffler m6 car trapped 109 at the track and pulled my a4 111 car on the street 5 for 5 the same night. shits weird. both were at the same track, same night. my ex wife was driving the m6 car.

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/99-04/43829-most-hp-bolt-mach-1-a.html

^That thread is FULL of of fail. :lol:


These numbers are more realistic.
http://mustangforums.com/forum/mach-1-section/549240-full-bolt-on-mach-power-numbers.html

my lid muffler m6 car trapped 109 at the track and pulled my a4 111 car on the street 5 for 5 the same night. shits weird. both were at the same track, same night. my ex wife was driving the m6 car.

My friends auto was running a 13.30 @ 106 that was with a lid, and exhaust (stock manifolds) maybe it's this Texas heat :confused:

That Mach looks so good in the video. Nice kill, though.

No they won't. 315-325 is normal for a FULL bolt-on Mach 1.

without long tubes maybe. Didn't stopsign32v make 308 with intake/x-pipe/catback?

Dyno numbers mean nothing. Depending on what part of the year, STD, SAE, uncorrected, corrected, gear ratio, tires, etc...

Redfire a full bolt on Mach 1 will be around 340-350rwhp.

V8EATR that's a tricky one...yes I made 308rwhp with only intake, catback, and midpipe. That was STD corrected with the stock 3.55 gears. SAE corrected with the same mods but with much lower gears my car only makes 292rwhp. :lol: FTL

Redfire a full bolt on Mach 1 will be around 340-350rwhp.

Im aware of what they make. Plenty of experience with and around these cars. Like I said, cams and/or Ported intakes don't count!



This your typical, run of the mill, 95 percentile Bolt-on Mach 1:

Headers
Mid-pipe
Cat-back
90mm MAF
Intake Spacer
JLT RAI

315/336.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXG1Nf-ERCo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Add pulleys, 12lb flywheel, EWP...and add a few more. But they will not make 340-350rwhp. That's Full bolt-on LS1 M6 range.

March crank pulley has been proven to add 12rwhp alone. Combine that with UD PS pulley and an EWP. On top of that flywheel and DS has been dyno proven to show around 10rwhp also. Add all those up and that is around 30rwhp give or take some. Combined with your 315rwhp Mach above...

Im not counting 98 cobra cams a bolt on but its not like they are worth 30hp. And my buds car is just a ported intake not psr, and since when is a intake not a bolt on? Is a fast intake not a bolt on for an LS car? And you guys have to remember mod for mod a mach should be about 10whp higher than a 99-01 cobra because of the cylinder heads.

Like I said I have owned/modded a 3v and a good friend has a 01 cobra so I have been around/raced/worked on mustangs before. I like mustangs and LSX stuff, but some guys are just tunnel vision around here about stuff.

March crank pulley has been proven to add 12rwhp alone. Combine that with UD PS pulley and an EWP. On top of that flywheel and DS has been dyno proven to show around 10rwhp also. Add all those up and that is around 30rwhp give or take some. Combined with your 315rwhp Mach above...

340 on an inflated dyno...possibly.



But I typically see numbers like this with all the bells & whistles. This was done on a Dynojet too....

Torch Red '03 Mach1 Natural Aspirated

C&L CAI tube C&L 85MM MAF/ K&N Acufab Twin 60mm TB Meizier WP Steeda underdrive pully w/2" shorter drive belt 3/8" Intake spacer JMS SCT X3 custom tune SLP 1 3/4" ceramic long tubes PYPES O/R H-PIPE Magnaflow Magnapack CAT-BACK T56 w/26 spline input shaft 12 lb. Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel Zoom 11" 2.5 Kevlar Clutch Alum D/S Pro 5.0 T56 shifter 3.55 329HP/380TQ PERFORMANCE CORNER, LLC DYNO GVW: 3608 w/driver, full tank

http://mustangforums.com/forum/mach-1-section/549240-full-bolt-on-mach-power-numbers-2.html

Im not counting 98 cobra cams a bolt on but its not like they are worth 30hp. And my buds car is just a ported intake not psr, and since when is a intake not a bolt on? Is a fast intake not a bolt on for an LS car? And you guys have to remember mod for mod a mach should be about 10whp higher than a 99-01 cobra because of the cylinder heads.

Like I said I have owned/modded a 3v and a good friend has a 01 cobra so I have been around/raced/worked on mustangs before. I like mustangs and LSX stuff, but some guys are just tunnel vision around here about stuff.

You sure changed your tone since you last posted. Were you waiting for another "Mustang " guy to chime in first? :lol:

And tunnel vision, I hope you're not referring to me? I guarantee I've owned more Mustangs tha you, so no idea where the whole LSX and Ford stuff along with a brief resume of your work history came in at. I can give two Shits about that. I'm just stating it how it is, in the real world. If you feel I'm wrong than show me. :)

340 on an inflated dyno...possibly.



But I typically see numbers like this with all the bells & whistles. This was done on a Dynojet too....

Torch Red '03 Mach1 Natural Aspirated

C&L CAI tube C&L 85MM MAF/ K&N Acufab Twin 60mm TB Meizier WP Steeda underdrive pully w/2" shorter drive belt 3/8" Intake spacer JMS SCT X3 custom tune SLP 1 3/4" ceramic long tubes PYPES O/R H-PIPE Magnaflow Magnapack CAT-BACK T56 w/26 spline input shaft 12 lb. Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel Zoom 11" 2.5 Kevlar Clutch Alum D/S Pro 5.0 T56 shifter 3.55 329HP/380TQ PERFORMANCE CORNER, LLC DYNO GVW: 3608 w/driver, full tank

http://mustangforums.com/forum/mach-1-section/549240-full-bolt-on-mach-power-numbers-2.html

Hold on now, you are the one racing dynos. On a Mustang Dyno, no a Mach 1 will not hit 340+rwhp probably. However, on a dynojet...hell yea it will, and that wouldn't be rare. Either way I don't see what it matters. A bolt on Mach 1 COULD hit 350+rwhp on a dyno that might be considered happy. Then go to the track and lose to a 320rwhp Mach 1. Don't see what dyno numbers prove....

Torch Red '03 Mach1 Natural Aspirated

C&L CAI tube C&L 85MM MAF/ K&N Acufab Twin 60mm TB Meizier WP Steeda underdrive pully w/2" shorter drive belt 3/8" Intake spacer JMS SCT X3 custom tune SLP 1 3/4" ceramic long tubes PYPES O/R H-PIPE Magnaflow Magnapack CAT-BACK T56 w/26 spline input shaft 12 lb. Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel Zoom 11" 2.5 Kevlar Clutch Alum D/S Pro 5.0 T56 shifter 3.55 329HP/380TQ PERFORMANCE CORNER, LLC DYNO GVW: 3608 w/driver, full tank

http://mustangforums.com/forum/mach-1-section/549240-full-bolt-on-mach-power-numbers-2.html

I would change that and then I'd change the exhaust. I think I could find around 10rwhp in that combination.

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/99-04/43829-most-hp-bolt-mach-1-a.html

I want to see a 550-600 rwhp N/A build like one guy mentioned.

Hold on now, you are the one racing dynos. On a Mustang Dyno, no a Mach 1 will not hit 340+rwhp probably. However, on a dynojet...hell yea it will, and that wouldn't be rare. Either way I don't see what it matters. A bolt on Mach 1 COULD hit 350+rwhp on a dyno that might be considered happy. Then go to the track and lose to a 320rwhp Mach 1. Don't see what dyno numbers prove....

Right, because in reality, that bolt-on Mach is really making closer to 320. :judge:


As for racing dyno's, I was responding to V8EATR's comment.You threw your .2 in and chose to race with us. :confused:

How did you accomplish this? +7mph over stock with a "few" bolt-ons? What's your secret?

I didn't run 114, I ran 112.89. Knowing what I know now 114-116 would be attainable. No secrets really. We got a friends ram air ta to trap 110 with just free mods. Another friends car we got to go 109 in the heat with just a lid, cutout and freemods. My car went 108 stock.

I didn't run 114, I ran 112.89. Knowing what I know now 114-116 would be attainable. No secrets really. We got a friends ram air ta to trap 110 with just free mods. Another friends car we got to go 109 in the heat with just a lid, cutout and freemods. My car went 108 stock.

No, 116 at Full Weight with just a "few" bolt-ons would be the first of its kind. So by "Free mods" I assume you also mean taking some weight out?

Right, because in reality, that bolt-on Mach is really making closer to 320. :judge:


As for racing dyno's, I was responding to V8EATR's comment.You threw your .2 in and chose to race with us. :confused:

I know, I'm just pointing out you can't say a Mach 1 with bolt ons "can't make 345+rwhp on a dyno" when infact it can. BUT I will agree with you in saying it CANNOT on a SAE corrected dyno. Anything is possible on a dynojet though. :jest:

No, it would take more than a few to get to 116 and a little weight reduction.

Torch Red '03 Mach1 Natural Aspirated

C&L CAI tube C&L 85MM MAF/ K&N Acufab Twin 60mm TB Meizier WP Steeda underdrive pully w/2" shorter drive belt 3/8" Intake spacer JMS SCT X3 custom tune SLP 1 3/4" ceramic long tubes PYPES O/R H-PIPE Magnaflow Magnapack CAT-BACK T56 w/26 spline input shaft 12 lb. Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel Zoom 11" 2.5 Kevlar Clutch Alum D/S Pro 5.0 T56 shifter 3.55 329HP/380TQ PERFORMANCE CORNER, LLC DYNO GVW: 3608 w/driver, full tank

http://mustangforums.com/forum/mach-1-section/549240-full-bolt-on-mach-power-numbers-2.html

Wait, what's going on with those torque numbers?

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No, it would take more than a few to get to 116 and a little weight reduction.

OK that makes sense. Several LS1's have did that SI, think the record car went 122.

Wait, what's going on with those torque numbers?

I don't know, I was looking at that too. Typo maybe?

I don't know, I was looking at that too. Typo maybe?

Either that or the dyno is off. However the HP numbers seem dead on IMO.

I always love threads with Mach 1's in them. Especially when they lose the race. Sooo entertaining. :lol:

Anything is possible on a dynojet though. :jest:

I think you mean Mustang Dyno :nod:

I always love threads with Mach 1's in them. Especially when they lose the race. Sooo entertaining. :lol:

Impressive signature. Bet you give the 2v's hell

OK that makes sense. Several LS1's have did that SI, think the record car went 122.



I don't know, I was looking at that too. Typo maybe?

I'm sure the 122 was in a full on racecar. I think someone could get one to go 118-120 and still have their self a decent street car.

Damn it's getting in my boots now. Time for the waist highs.

Impressive signature. Bet you give the 2v's hell

I hear SRT8 jeeps are known to give mach 1's hard times...

I hear SRT8 jeeps are known to give mach 1's hard times...

Too bad Dodge doesn't have anything that can other than a V10 sports car.

I hear SRT8 jeeps are known to give mach 1's hard times...

LMAO! I need to find a local Mach 1 guy and race him then post up the video here. I can only imagine the lengths that thread would get to. Haha.

Impressive signature. Bet you give the 2v's hell

Among others...:lol:

Damn it's getting in my boots now. Time for the waist highs.

Well if 92cobranotch listens the I'll guess we will see since he just bought a 99 z28.


Btw....I have the cobra notch now......:)

Too bad Dodge doesn't have anything that can other than a V10 sports car.

Didnt know my 6.1 was a V10....thanks for that info

Didnt know my 6.1 was a V10....thanks for that info

:rotflmao: You think your car is a sports car?

LMAO! I need to find a local Mach 1 guy and race him then post up the video here. I can only imagine the lengths that thread would get to. Haha.

Lets just say its already been done....I went back and forth with these Mach 1 guys claiming a bolt on mach 1 would be neck and neck with me. it went 20+ pages on here and 40+ pages on SVTP LMAO....the defeat for the mach 1 7 out of 7 races and with him being 3-4 cars back everytime was unbearable :jest:

:rotflmao: You think your car is a sports car?

Arent there some challenger R/Ts out there you should be racing :burn:

I mean you did run 12.5 in your lightweight mustang with gears, bolt ons and slicks

and a challenger R/T ran 12.5 with a tune, filter, exhaust, Dragmasters @4100 lbs

we dont need the viper for mach 1's buddy

We have the entire SRT8 and R/T line up.....including the jeeps and soccer mom wagon magnums LMAO

Im aware of what they make. Plenty of experience with and around these cars. Like I said, cams and/or Ported intakes don't count!



This your typical, run of the mill, 95 percentile Bolt-on Mach 1:

Headers
Mid-pipe
Cat-back
90mm MAF
Intake Spacer
JLT RAI

315/336.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXG1Nf-ERCo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Add pulleys, 12lb flywheel, EWP...and add a few more. But they will not make 340-350rwhp. That's Full bolt-on LS1 M6 range.

Lol Corys car was put together with a budget in mind. Yes I know the car. My car was put on the same dyno made 308std without a ported stock mani, headers, ewp, t/b etc.. In a auto... Here is a 5 spd full bolt-on car on the same dyno.

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=116237

Arent there some challenger R/Ts out there you should be racing :burn:


I've ran R/Ts and I simply will not waste my gas on them anymore. They should be left to the 2v's.

I know, I'm just pointing out you can't say a Mach 1 with bolt ons "can't make 345+rwhp on a dyno" when infact it can. BUT I will agree with you in saying it CANNOT on a SAE corrected dyno. Anything is possible on a dynojet though. :jest:

Record is 343sae for a bolt on c headed car.

I felt like I needed to post in this thread.


The :swing: is rather entertaining.

I'm sure the 122 was in a full on racecar. I think someone could get one to go 118-120 and still have their self a decent street car.

Depends on ones idea of a decent street car. lol I know one thing, its going to take a lot of weight out
to trap those numbers, big gears, front runners, etc.. Don't know about "street car".

Well my mustang did 110 trap with 3360lb and 330whp and my buddies cobra did 111 with 3320 and XXXwhp. Do the math. Not to bench race but its probably right around 340whp. BTW, that was same track, same day both have driver mod, both on street tires.

My 3v made 330std before longtubes (shortys) Same mods as yours for the most part. At a 3460lb raceweight best trap was 111.25 . Mach mad 308std weight around the same weight if not A little more and traped 111.9 ;)

Lol Corys car was put together with a budget in mind. Yes I know the car. My car was put on the same dyno made 308std without a ported stock mani, headers, ewp, t/b etc.. In a auto... Here is a 5 spd full bolt-on car on the same dyno.

http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=116237

Again, I AM NOT TALKING CAMMED CARS. Production cam or not, strictly "Bolt-on" mods. :bang:

Some guys have seen 20whp by swapping '98 Cams on a C-Headed motor. Take away that from his numbers and you've got a typical full bolt-on Mach 1. Nothing special.

Again, I AM NOT TALKING CAMMED CARS. Production cam or not, strictly "Bolt-on" mods. :bang:

Some guys have seen 20whp by swapping '98 Cams on a C-Headed motor. Take away that from his numbers and you've got a typical full bolt-on Mach 1. Nothing special.

It is not a cammed car it only effects the intake side more like 10 anyways. It is considerd a bolt on car the record car made 343sae :search:

It is not a cammed car it only effects the intake side more like 10 anyways. It is considerd a bolt on car the record car made 343sae :search:

Give me a break man. :lol:

I'm aware they're only the intake cams. Why some of the Ford enthusiasts continue to try and teach me things I learned 10 years ago I will never know. Cut it out with the non sense. Not a bolt-on car for sure.

I had several buddies that performed the swap. You'll typically see 13-20rwhp gains. This guy in the thread below saw 20.

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/4v-svt/243337-mach-1-96-98-cobra-cams-dialing-questions.html

Oh how I wish I still had my "turd".... There are machs that race in the orlando area often and they post the videos on svtp, I'm sure they'd be honored to shut that big mouth.

Where are these mythical beasts you speak of?

After 8 pages of people talking sh't, we have all forgotten why we are here.

A intake only GTO beat a eaton swapped Mach 1. (in reality)

Ball is in your court Mach 1 co'cksuckers, let's see some proof.

Ball is in your court Mach 1 co'cksuckers, let's see some proof.

Post up your proof of what your car runs and us Mach 1 co'cksuckers will post up our proof. :gtfo:

Sho did get quiet in here :lol:

Post up your proof of what your car runs and us Mach 1 co'cksuckers will post up our proof. :gtfo:

It's not about what my car runs. It's about a GTO with an intake pulling a eaton swapped Mach 1 and getting it on video so we can all laugh together :lol:

Post up your proof of what your car runs and us Mach 1 co'cksuckers will post up our proof. :gtfo:

When are we going to actually see you run something instead of talking about it?

Give me a break man. :lol:

I'm aware they're only the intake cams. Why some of the Ford enthusiasts continue to try and teach me things I learned 10 years ago I will never know. Cut it out with the non sense. Not a bolt-on car for sure.

I had several buddies that performed the swap. You'll typically see 13-20rwhp gains. This guy in the thread below saw 20.

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/4v-svt/243337-mach-1-96-98-cobra-cams-dialing-questions.html

So now it is not a bolt-on because you said so :jest: I guess ported stock mani is not a bolt-on either :judge:

It's not about what my car runs. It's about a GTO with an intake pulling a eaton swapped Mach 1 and getting it on video so we can all laugh together :lol:

I pullled a h/c gto when I made 298 :jest::jest::jest: just saying It works both ways.

I pullled a h/c gto when I made 298 and weight reduction :jest::jest::jest: just saying It works both ways.

Fixed it...lol

Depends on ones idea of a decent street car. lol I know one thing, its going to take a lot of weight out
to trap those numbers, big gears, front runners, etc.. Don't know about "street car".

My car traps 126+(best of 130). It's a street car, my dd actually. With that said my ls6 only makes about 60 more rwhp than a full bolt-on ls1. For you non-math types that would equal to about 6mph less. Definitely possible.

When are we going to actually see you run something instead of talking about it?

Theres video and timeslips...what else do you need? That is real world numbers that you can go off.

It's not about what my car runs. It's about a GTO with an intake pulling a eaton swapped Mach 1 and getting it on video so we can all laugh together :lol:

Oh excuse me, I thought your car could back up your mouth. At least we cleared that up. :cheers:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1/06Subiedude/wonka1.jpg

I pullled a h/c gto when I made 298 :jest::jest::jest: just saying It works both ways.

I get that it works both ways, I've won races because the other driver slept at the line, spun his tires, or missed a gear. Shit happens.

Theres video and timeslips...what else do you need? That is real world numbers that you can go off.

You mean that 1 video of you running a LS1 that slept at the line and looks like it was recorded with a toothbrush.....yea

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1/06Subiedude/wonka1.jpg

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You mean that 1 video of you running a LS1 that slept at the line and looks like it was recorded with a toothbrush.....yea

There's another video of the 2nd race if you search. Don't worry, next time I go to the track there will be more videos. Gopro video this time. Oh and you better get yourself to the track and run better than that made up 7.9 you got there.

Oh excuse me, I thought your car could back up your mouth. At least we cleared that up. :cheers:

Is a 01 Cobra comparable to a Mach 1? I have a friend with one that is down to race. I also have a buddy with a 03 GT that has a lightening swap, is that comparable?

I'd be more than happy to film it and post it.

You mean that 1 video of you running a LS1 that slept at the line and looks like it was recorded with a toothbrush.....yea

Don't forget that same car flat wore his ass out on the street.

good kill

Is a 01 Cobra comparable to a Mach 1? I have a friend with one that is down to race. I also have a buddy with a 03 GT that has a lightening swap, is that comparable?

I'd be more than happy to film it and post it.

Race them and post up the video so we can see how you did

Is a 01 Cobra comparable to a Mach 1? I have a friend with one that is down to race. I also have a buddy with a 03 GT that has a lightening swap, is that comparable?

I'd be more than happy to film it and post it.

What does that have to do with anything? We are talking proof, as in timeslips. Beating A car doesn't prove anything. And no, a 01 Cobra isn't comparable to a Mach 1.

I get that it works both ways, I've won races because the other driver slept at the line, spun his tires, or missed a gear. Shit happens.

Actually we did a 40 roll and I pulled him and he did none of the above ;)

What does that have to do with anything? We are talking proof, as in timeslips. Beating A car doesn't prove anything. And no, a 01 Cobra isn't comparable to a Mach 1.

Well unfortunately I don't really go the local track much. In fact, I've never taken this car out there. I can post my dyno sheet and video of me racing a Mach 1 but that's about it.

Actually we did a 40 roll and I pulled him and he did none of the above ;)

Apparently racing a car doesn't matter, all that matters is timeslips.

There's another video of the 2nd race if you search. Don't worry, next time I go to the track there will be more videos. Gopro video this time. Oh and you better get yourself to the track and run better than that made up 7.9 you got there.

Sure.....and I dont make up anything I have nothing to prove. I already made my point on here and SVTP. stock and bolt on mach 1's cant hang with me :jest: 7 out of 7 races and 11 for 11 against mach's LOL. Better hope you dont run across an SRT8 that can drive. And you can say its made up all you want but the fact is a Full bolt on, tuned, geared, DR 5.0 beat me by half a car and ran 7.9 and you dont think I can LOL

Is a 01 Cobra comparable to a Mach 1? I have a friend with one that is down to race. I also have a buddy with a 03 GT that has a lightening swap, is that comparable?

I'd be more than happy to film it and post it.

01 cobras are a drivers race with mach 1's having the edge....both are slow stock. I gave a stock 01 cobra 2 cars and the go and pulled him with ease LOL :zzz:

Holy shit....I go to work for a day and this thread turns into this! Don't you guys have jobs?? LOL.

And Redfire, I agree with you on this topic. I have owned a 2008 mustang and have a bunch of buddies with mustangs. I know the cars decently well, and in all honesty, 340-350 RWHP on a bolt on mach 1 seems pretty unrealistic to me. And so does a 113 mph trap speed out of a bolt on mach 1. If someone wants to get some proof up, I'd be happy to believe them, but until then I'll stick to believing vids and/or timeslips. IE, REAL proof.

Don't forget that same car flat wore his ass out on the street.

oh we know!! he wont mention it tho

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1/06subiedude/wonka1.jpg

lmmfao!

Holy shit....I go to work for a day and this thread turns into this! Don't you guys have jobs?? LOL.

And Redfire, I agree with you on this topic. I have owned a 2008 mustang and have a bunch of buddies with mustangs. I know the cars decently well, and in all honesty, 340-350 RWHP on a bolt on mach 1 seems pretty unrealistic to me. And so does a 113 mph trap speed out of a bolt on mach 1. If someone wants to get some proof up, I'd be happy to believe them, but until then I'll stick to believing vids and/or timeslips. IE, REAL proof.

I'm not sure about Mach1s with cams and bolt ons and whatnot but don't LS2 GTO's with intakes make about 340-50+rwhp?

Holy shit....I go to work for a day and this thread turns into this! Don't you guys have jobs?? LOL.

And Redfire, I agree with you on this topic. I have owned a 2008 mustang and have a bunch of buddies with mustangs. I know the cars decently well, and in all honesty, 340-350 RWHP on a bolt on mach 1 seems pretty unrealistic to me. And so does a 113 mph trap speed out of a bolt on mach 1. If someone wants to get some proof up, I'd be happy to believe them, but until then I'll stick to believing vids and/or timeslips. IE, REAL proof.

Agreed. :cool:

I'm not sure about Mach1s with cams and bolt ons and whatnot but don't LS2 GTO's with intakes make about 340-50+rwhp?

This particular GTO made 371 RWHP on a dynojet. It's just intake/tune. Put down 358 with the intake untuned.

Well unfortunately I don't really go the local track much. In fact, I've never taken this car out there. I can post my dyno sheet and video of me racing a Mach 1 but that's about it.

Figures...Let me know when you want to come to Atlanta Dragway and we can see how you do against my Mach 1.

Sure.....and I dont make up anything I have nothing to prove. I already made my point on here and SVTP. stock and bolt on mach 1's cant hang with me :jest: 7 out of 7 races and 11 for 11 against mach's LOL. Better hope you dont run across an SRT8 that can drive. And you can say its made up all you want but the fact is a Full bolt on, tuned, geared, DR 5.0 beat me by half a car and ran 7.9 and you dont think I can LOL

You made up what your car runs in your sig. :lol: How can you say you don't make anything up? Your boat has NEVER run 7's. The closest it has come is 8.2 and that was after piles and piles of runs. (per you) I would honestly pay $200 just to get you to come to the track and run me with the mods you have and the mods I have.

oh we know!! he wont mention it tho

I don't reply to it because since then I've outrun that same car. I've been outrun by alot of cars I later beat, who hasn't. Sure he beat me...theres me mentioning it. :confused:

Figures...Let me know when you want to come to Atlanta Dragway and we can see how you do against my Mach 1.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg820/scaled.php?server=820&filename=sharememe8628507842.jpg&res=landing

lol that kid

If you are ever in the area, shoot me a PM.

1/4 mile calculators > real world slips. Wake up, Kevin.

Figures...Let me know when you want to come to Atlanta Dragway and we can see how you do against my Mach 1.



You made up what your car runs in your sig. :lol: How can you say you don't make anything up? Your boat has NEVER run 7's. The closest it has come is 8.2 and that was after piles and piles of runs. (per you) I would honestly pay $200 just to get you to come to the track and run me with the mods you have and the mods I have.



I don't reply to it because since then I've outrun that same car. I've been outrun by alot of cars I later beat, who hasn't. Sure he beat me...theres me mentioning it. :confused:

You talk as if you live here and have seen me run. Funny thing is a few members on here and SVTP know how my car runs at the 1/8th so I dont have to make up shit or prove anything to you. Like I said your stupid if you think my car that went 8.2 on 22's didnt go 7.9 on a cooler night on smaller wheels.

And the fact that intake, exhaust only SRT8's are going low 8's high 7's at our track and full bolt on tuned, geared, DR machs are running 8.50
s to 8.60's launching the shit out of thier cars LOL

Well this 99 cobra I got seems to be a little bit faster than my friends stock auto ls1 off the line and from a 40 roll a higher roll he gets me about 1.5 cars but i wouldn't run no srt 8 jeep from a dig in it. I think it would leave my shit from a dig lol I seen what they can do.

1/4 mile calculators > real world slips. Wake up, Kevin.

Racing Mach 1's, Cobras, 5.0's in the real world > Internet racing

:lol: Whatever you say. How many hours of touching up did you have to do to that sig pic to make it look somewhat sporty?

Agreed. :cool:
dang I see you got a S63 those things are sick man

You talk as if you live here and have seen me run. Funny thing is a few members on here and SVTP know how my car runs at the 1/8th so I dont have to make up shit or prove anything to you. Like I said your stupid if you think my car that went 8.2 on 22's didnt go 7.9 on a cooler night on smaller wheels.

And the fact that intake, exhaust only SRT8's are going low 8's high 7's at our track and full bolt on tuned, geared, DR machs are running 8.50
s to 8.60's launching the shit out of thier cars LOL

Oh yea well well there is the guy that has a Mach 1 with bolt ons and his car runs 12.0 so I'm pretty sure my car can. Infact I'm just going to go ahead and put it in my sig as my car ran that. Because if I changed my tires and ran at his track I'm sure I could duplicate that.

Put it this way............do you......have ANY proof that your car ran 7's in the 1/8th? Proof as in a video clearly showing you running that and a timeslip? Because if not I'm going to call it like I have many times before.














you are full of BS

:lol: Whatever you say. How many hours of touching up did you have to do to that sig pic to make it look somewhat sporty?

Man what are you talking about? He put eyebrows on his car. Thats so when the Mustangs are putting the beating on him the driver will know his car is pissed! :jest::jest::jest:

:lol: Whatever you say. How many hours of touching up did you have to do to that sig pic to make it look somewhat sporty?

what touch ups in my sig?....its just a photo filter. Nice mustang in your avatar LMFAO

Man what are you talking about? He put eyebrows on his car. Thats so when the Mustangs are putting the beating on him the driver will know his car is pissed! :jest::jest::jest:

Still waiting for one of those Mach 1 mustangs to put a beating on me....:jest:

And you can say its made up all you want but the fact is a Full bolt on, tuned, geared, DR 5.0 beat me by half a car and ran 7.9 and you dont think I can LOLi guess it's a good thing my bolt-on a4 ls1 car wasn't there. or both of you guys would've been jumping off cliffs after getting such a whoopin.

i guess it's a good thing my bolt-on a4 ls1 car wasn't there. or both of you guys would've been jumping off cliffs after getting such a whoopin.

easy to say when you dont run at our track. I could easily take my car to my home state (Missouri) at a better track and run faster. Whatever you run dont plan on running it here.

For example...H/C 02 SS 7.9@94
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thb4tVL-mug

Viper ACR 7.6@89
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5x5tZ1AupM

even with a DA of 3100' my car still ran 7.8s lol. unless you're in colorado you'll have a tough time competing with that.

easy to say when you dont run at our track. I could easily take my car to my home state (Missouri) at a better track and run faster. Whatever you run dont plan on running it here.

LOL you shit excuses. First you blame your cars poor performance for the big ______ wheels you run like its anyone's fault but your own. Then you blame your track for the poor performance your car spits out.

Hell on your last note I'll reply with "Whatever Mach 1 you beat don't plan on beating them here."


Oh and you seem to have missed my post...here I'll reply to it for you so it can catch your eye.

Oh yea well well there is the guy that has a Mach 1 with bolt ons and his car runs 12.0 so I'm pretty sure my car can. Infact I'm just going to go ahead and put it in my sig as my car ran that. Because if I changed my tires and ran at his track I'm sure I could duplicate that.

Put it this way............do you......have ANY proof that your car ran 7's in the 1/8th? Proof as in a video clearly showing you running that and a timeslip? Because if not I'm going to call it like I have many times before.














you are full of BS



:corn: :corn:

even with a DA of 3100' my car still ran 7.8s lol. unless you're in colorado you'll have a tough time competing with that.

Don't make him youtube race you. :jest:

yeah, i know.

i guess that's the difference between those of us who race and...him.

LOL you shit excuses. First you blame your cars poor performance for the big ______ wheels you run like its anyone's fault but your own. Then you blame your track for the poor performance your car spits out.

Hell on your last note I'll reply with "Whatever Mach 1 you beat don't plan on beating them here."


Oh and you seem to have missed my post...here I'll reply to it for you so it can catch your eye.


Lol your a funny guy. When i beat mach 1's I think of you its quite entertaining. Bottom line is bolt on mach 1's run 8.5-8.6 here rather you like it or not and im still faster with my 4200lb car and 22's so who fails :jest:

so a H/C Camaro is a good race for an Intake/Corsa/Tune SRT8?

yeah, i know.

i guess that's the difference between those of us who race and...him.

lets see a video of you car running mr I race LOL i can post 10 of my car for every 1 you have :zzz:

so a H/C is a good race for a Intake/Corsa/Tune SRT8?you didn't know that? shit son where have you been?

Lol your a funny guy. When i beat mach 1's I think of you its quite entertaining. Bottom line is bolt on mach 1's run 8.5-8.6 here rather you like it or not and im still faster with my 4200lb car and 22's so who fails :jest:

Is this 1/4 mile only or you beat Bolt ons Mach 1 from a roll as well?

you didn't know that? shit son where have you been?

Well my heads and cam TA was trapping 120 in Texas heat so I doubt that. Maybe because the fbody couldn't come out hard without breaking the rearend

so a H/C Camaro is a good race for an Intake/Corsa/Tune SRT8?

a H/C what? LS1 no LOL depends on the setup tho. A H/C MS3 car puts about a car length on me from a roll. Pullied Cobra put half a car on me and lost to the H/C car

Is this 1/4 mile only or you Killed Bolt ons Mach 1 from a roll as well?

Fixed it for ya lol

I have met up with guys with mach's on SVTP and youtube because they got so butt hurt about one of their buddys losing. They eventually sicked the 5.0 and 03 Cobras on me lol

lets see a video of you car running mr I race LOL i can post 10 of my car for every 1 you have :zzz:let's see your timeslips...oh wait.

here are a couple from that car.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l126/s346k/Camaro/timeslips.jpg

Well my heads and cam TA was trapping 120 in Texas heat so I doubt that. Maybe because the fbody couldn't come out hard without breaking the rearendsarcasm, sir.

Lol your a funny guy. When i beat mach 1's I think of you its quite entertaining. Bottom line is bolt on mach 1's run 8.5-8.6 here rather you like it or not and im still faster with my 4200lb car and 22's so who fails :jest:

You say this like it bothers me. :confused:

I honestly feel sorry for you every time you come to try and attack me because you have absolutely NO ammo. You have said that you run your car plenty of times at the track but yet you cannot even come close to my times. Infact you are closer to what I ran with nothing but a midpipe, MAC catback, and a shifter.

BTW you still have seemed to miss my post with the bold font. What gives brah?

sarcasm, sir.

Lol I figured

You say this like it bothers me. :confused:

I honestly feel sorry for you every time you come to try and attack me because you have absolutely NO ammo. You have said that you run your car plenty of times at the track but yet you cannot even come close to my times. Infact you are closer to what I ran with nothing but a midpipe, MAC catback, and a shifter.

BTW you still have seemed to miss my post with the bold font. What gives brah?

You are so delusional its unreal. Come to my track and run me and see how well it suits you. Easy to say what I cant run when we are halfway across the world apart running at totally different atmospheres. Bottom line is I know how Mach 1's run welcome to 2003. Stop trying to prove shit that no one cares about because it makes you look stupid. Do you HONESTLY think I was surprised or amazed that I keep beating these mach 1's....haha no because its nothing new to me I did it almost weekly in my LS1 cars back when i was 17 <<<<< Ouch

a H/C what? LS1 no LOL depends on the setup tho. A H/C MS3 car puts about a car length on me from a roll. Pullied Cobra put half a car on me and lost to the H/C car
That is terrible lol, only putting a car on a car that trapped 112 with a H/C LS1

Fixed it for ya lol

I have met up with guys with mach's on SVTP and youtube because they got so butt hurt about one of their buddys losing. They eventually sicked the 5.0 and 03 Cobras on me lol

How did you do against those?

just sayin i beat the brakes off a Cam, full boltons, spray, and stalled with dr's charger srt8 at the track. I can only imagine how slow a intake, exhaust, and tune only one would be.

just sayin i beat the brakes off a Cam, full boltons, spray, and stalled with dr's charger srt8 at the track. I can only imagine how slow a intake, exhaust, and tune only one would be.

Thats great for you buddy!!! want a cookie? Da fuck

is this you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfS5827aACc

just sayin i beat the brakes off a Cam, full boltons, spray, and stalled with dr's charger srt8 at the track. I can only imagine how slow a intake, exhaust, and tune only one would be.that guy obviously didn't know you were racing. back when he was almost stock he was skullfucking those corvettes with just an intake and tune. on his 24s...

where are those timeslips?

How did you do against those?

Beat all 3 of them.
1 had bolt ons, 4.10's
the other 2 had bolt ons, 4.10's and tuned

just sayin i beat the brakes off a Cam, full boltons, spray, and stalled with dr's charger srt8 at the track. I can only imagine how slow a intake, exhaust, and tune only one would be.

Lol maybe because your in a C6!!!!! My friends ls2 c6 was trapping what my
H/c fbody was and that's was with a intake tune and exhaust.

Thats great for you buddy!!! want a cookie? Da fuck

im sayin your car is fucking slow any way you cut it.

im sayin your car is fucking slow any way you cut it.

And the mach 1's I have raced are slower you dumb fuck....when did I say my car was fast

And the mach 1's I have raced are slower you dumb fuck....when did I say my car was fast

You seem mad that you can't say your car is fast. If your gonna come on here talking crap and saying oh I can beat H/C camaros then your car damn better run faster than 7.9 in the 1/8th.

You seem mad that you can't say your car is fast. If your gonna come on here talking crap and saying oh I can beat H/C camaros then your car damn better run faster than 7.9 in the 1/8th.

WTF are you talking about....shut the hell up. Go learn how to read I never stated I beat any H/C camaros??.......way to come into a thread and look stupid as shit

WTF are you talking about....shut the hell up. Go learn how to read I never stated I beat any H/C camaros??.......way to come into a thread and look stupid as shit

You seem quite mad for some reason. You posted a video of a H/C camaro running 7.9 at your track why else would you post that? Are you retarded? You just need to shup up and keep your ignorance out of ls1tech.

You seem quite mad for some reason. You posted a video of a H/C camaro running 7.9 at your track why else would you post that? Are you retarded? You just need to shup up and keep your ignorance out of ls1tech.

I was stating that cars run slower here a H/C LS1 should run low 7's but here all cars run slower times because of DA and our tracks. Saying what someones car can run somewhere else is dumb to us people on the west coast because it means nothing here. And are you retarted? dont come into this thread trying to swing your shit because you run 11's. There are plenty of SRT8's that run faster then you. Keep your fuckery to yourself period.

You come in here making off the wall claims saying stupid shit learn to read

:corn:

I was stating that cars run slower here a H/C LS1 should run low 7's but here all cars run slower times because of DA and our tracks. Saying what someones car can run somewhere else is dumb to us people on the west coast because it means nothing here. And are you retarted? dont come into this thread trying to swing your shit because you run 11's. There are plenty of SRT8's that run faster then you. Keep your fuckery to yourself period.

You come in here making off the wall claims saying stupid shit learn to read

So H/C LS1 are supposed to run low 7's, but because of DA they run 7.9 so are you saying your car is supposed to run low 7's? I mean really man get your story straight. Your so full of shit its coming out of your ears.:bomb:

Note to self If you want a car to not be affected by DA in california buy a srt8.

So H/C LS1 are supposed to run low 7's, but because of DA they run 7.9 so are you saying your car is supposed to run low 7's? I mean really man get your story straight. Your so full of shit its coming out of your ears.:bomb:

Can you not read or comprehend you idiot? just stop talking you look dumb as fuck. I said cars here dont run the times they should plain and simple rather its DA, track prep, elevation, build restrictions it doesn't matter they just dont. So when guys come in here saying oh my stock ls1 a4 car ran 7.9 it means nothing because they didnt run it here plain and simple.

Can you not read or comprehend you idiot? just stop talking you look dumb as fuck. I said cars here dont run the times they should plain and simple rather its DA, track prep, elevation, build restrictions it doesn't matter they just dont. So when guys come in here saying oh my stock ls1 a4 car ran 7.9 stock it means nothing because they didnt run it here plain and simple.

Then why does your car run how it should then? Is your car immune to DA? Are you trying to say it runs slower than it should? Your are saying shit that makes no sense. In one sentence you say cars run slower there than they should, but yours is dead on for some reason. Your not making sense and your just ignorant.

I think what he is saying is that you used a H/C LS1 as an example for why cars run slower there but ran almost exactly what your car ran.

But the fact a H/C LS1 only beat you by a car and a Pullied cobra by half a car SoCal cars must be very slow no offense

:jest:

I think what he is saying is that you used a H/C LS1 as an example for why cars run slower there but ran almost exactly what your car ran.

But the fact a H/C LS1 only beat you by a car and a Pullied cobra by half a car SoCal cars must be very slow no offense

I have said this time and time again. It happens everywhere but I notice alot of guys here run on half complete setups because of smog or other reasons for example I see ALOT of this...

Heads, Cam, Bolt ons, Untuned
Pullied, Bolt ons, Untuned
Cam, Bolt ons, stock headers, Untuned
Auto, Cam, stock headers, stock stall, Untuned

Heres a few of the runs

PRC Heads, MS3 Cam, Bolt on, Tuned WS6
Pullied, Bolt ons, 03 Cobra
SRT8, Intake, Catback, Tune

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP6IhI2O1jA

the cobra missed a gear on this run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIj9tWpoQyc

the WS6 and the pullied cobra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQp26ciaNPQ

SRT8 and WS6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcwPOnJbsYA

LOL so true, thats what happens when people who dont have the money to mod try and mod

LOL so true, thats what happens when people who dont have the money to mod try and mod

I would never run a car untuned after mods like that. I like my cars to much lol

I hear that but it seems like the thing to do now a days lol, even that dude ImStock2 was doing that with a H/C C6:bang:

So you just admitted that the cars you run are half ass setups. Thus why the Mach 1s you run are slow. Still....you run mid 8's in the 1/8th. :zzz:

I hear that but it seems like the thing to do now a days lol, even that dude ImStock2 was doing that with a H/C C6:bang:

running a H/C C6 untuned is crazy. I mean why you wouldnt even gain anything really

So you just admitted that the cars you run are half ass setups. Thus why the Mach 1s you run are slow. Still....you run mid 8's in the 1/8th. :zzz:

I said some of the cars I have seen that come out are half ass setups. There arent much things you can go wrong with doing on a Mach 1 when it comes to bolt ons Im talking pullied cobras running untuned or h/c cars running untuned.

I said some of the cars I have seen that come out are half ass setups. There arent much things you can go wrong with doing on a Mach 1 when it comes to bolt ons Im talking pullied cobras running untuned or h/c cars running untuned.

Oh ok, all the other cars besides Mach 1s are half assed. :lol: You are a true dip shit...a slow one...but surely one.

Oh ok, all the other cars besides Mach 1s are half assed. :lol: You are a true dip shit...a slow one...but surely one.

I sware you get dumber every time you speak. So tell me smart guy whats harder to fuck up and more of a half assed setup adding bolt ons and gears to a mach or a guy who runs around with a H/C bolt on untuned LS1? Quit making excuses Mach 1's are slow, yours is slow, yours will lose from not only a dig but from a roll against my car. Its not rocket science to do bolt ons but running a car with heads and cam untuned is alot worst then some mullet head mach 1 owner forgetting to do UD pulleys on his setup...:swing:

Let me just give a run down on what I have ran as far as mach's

Auto, headers, 4.10 gears, SCT tune, catback
M5, headers, catback, tune, 4.10's, DR's
M5, Catback, X-pipe, DR's
M5, Catback, Dyno tune, 4.10's, DR's, Eaton Swap
M5, Catback only...

All went down from a dig and the bolt on cars got freight trained from a roll. The Eaton car did better but stayed at my rear bumper....what more do you want?

Hey I'll post up my timeslip and lets see if you can post up one of yours that can beat my Mach 1. Lets go ahead and make it clear that my car has 5 bolt ons including the spark plugs as a mod and I'm working with 281cid.

Hell have you EVER owned a car that runs faster than my Mach? I think it's safe to say everyone here knows my Mach is the slowest car I've ever owned. Want to compare your SRT8 with my other rustangs?

I sware you get dumber every time you speak.

And it's "swear" you dip shit. When you are going to say someone is dumb at least learn how to spell correctly. Careful or I will class you in the same batch as Hihosliver.

And it's "swear" you dip shit. When you are going to say someone is dumb at least learn how to spell correctly. Careful or I will class you in the same batch as Hihosliver.

HAHA GTFO you mispell shit all the time....this aint english class fucktard. And bullshit your Mach cant even beat an R/T good luck trying out run me with your 108 trap car LMAO you would get walked like a dog from a roll :zzz:

Hey I'll post up my timeslip and lets see if you can post up one of yours that can beat my Mach 1. Lets go ahead and make it clear that my car has 5 bolt ons including the spark plugs as a mod and I'm working with 281cid.

Hell have you EVER owned a car that runs faster than my Mach? I think it's safe to say everyone here knows my Mach is the slowest car I've ever owned. Want to compare your SRT8 with my other rustangs?

All you own is Mustains i feel bad for you I really do LOL :jest:
5 bolt ons LOL i have 2 intake,catback and my car would still drag yours lmfao you fail once again fuck boy

let me help you refresh your memory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs_AT11tUzI

that same mach 1 beating a full bolt on firehawk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4bQnK4ZwbI

vs bolt on GTO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1cDc2st1_Y

Not to be a dick. In the mach v. firehawk the mach owner states in comments he lost the next race.
2nd ive raced a mach 1with drs and longtubes and won. Maybe driver mod who knows.
also only tangled with a srt8 once or so and i kept up with it putting a car on my car before tune.
Funny though the srt8 has tune in this vid, cant apeak for you mopar guys on what a tune gains... just my 2¢.

So when guys come in here saying oh my stock ls1 a4 car ran 7.9 it means nothing because they didnt run it here plain and simple.
It means everything because that is what they ran...


that same mach 1 beating a full bolt on firehawk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4bQnK4ZwbI

vs bolt on GTO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1cDc2st1_Y

Drivers in California must suck