The Juggernaut

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I just picked up my Fabricated 9" from Jay today

I got it stock length (it would be lighter if it were shorter)
All the lightweight goodies( gun drilled axles, lightened gear, aluminum
center section,star flanges.....)

Here's the break down-

35 spline Axles- 36.5
Housing(with all mounts)- 63.5
complete third member- 52.0
Torque arm mount (with all the bolts and plugs also)- 15.0

For a grand total of 167 pounds dry.
2 quarts of gear lube might be 6#?

173# wet is awesome for a 9" THAT'S STOCK LENGTH!

Needless to say, I'm VERY happy with it, I kinda figured 185 dry.
Great quality piece.

Billingsley is THE MAN!

JS

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Whats a 12-bolt weigh.....

ONGRNGO

How much did that cost you? You can PM if you want.

Dan

y2khawk

iTrader: (5)

My 12 bolt w/ BMR sway bar was about 130 lbs heavier than my 9". Granted, the 9" is shortened 3" per side. But 130 lbs is HUGE

NA$TY-TA

iTrader: (21)

About $3500 right Matt????
Kyle

PRAY HRD

iTrader: (119)

i can't wait to get mine...3" narrower/side. extra light!!! yeeaahh baby!

Dave

did you have his rollbar on it too? how about the powder coating?

y2khawk

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Kyle, something like that. It's been awhile. And i'm getting into the habit of just ordering things without asking how much

I have Jay's bar on it, but had it coated locally after I welded on the wheelie bar mounts.

PRAY HRD

iTrader: (119)

i just went back to an old post of mine because i know my Moser 9" did not weigh that much more, and i'm a little dissapointed that Jay's Fab 9 isn't much lighter. i recently sold a Moser 9" that has been narrowed 4" overall, with an alum. center, Detroit Locker, full weight 35 spline axles, alum. backing plates, and 1350 yoke that came in at 177lbs. dry, without the t/a mount.

so 10lbs. more off the bat
add 18lbs for the t/a mount (weight of my cast iron piece from Moser),
don't know what 3" off each side would lose on the Fab 9...maybe 10lbs max?
if you had the lca relocation mounts on it there's a couple more pounds...say 5?
and if you have a spool, and i swapped out the locker for one, then that would be an even smaller difference between the two.

so were looking at a savings of 43 lbs over a Moser? i hope it ends up being more than that. i'll find out in the spring if all goes well. but 43lbs is 43lbs, and i'll take it even at the extra cost. it's a beautiful piece and i would recommend it to anyone. but realisticly a Moser vs. a Fab 9 with the same guts, and length will likely only save 35-45lbs bottom line....if my math is correct and i'm not forgetting anything. i just don't know where you guys are finding 130lb weight differences even with an iron center. not saying anyone's lying though so don't get me wrong. i'm just surprised that much can be realized from one setup to another.

later,
Dave

MADMAN

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All I know is Billingsleys setup has withstood 150 1300hp launches and having no problems. The weight to me isnt an issue dependability is key.

y2khawk

iTrader: (5)

My 12 bolt was 33 spline, KTRE housing, spool, BMR bar, no relocation brackets.

It tipped my scale over 300 lbs.

Jay's 9" w/ the sway bar, aluminum center, spool, gun drilled 40's, his LCA mounts (has all 3 locations like an add on bracket) came in at 130 w/o the TA bracket.

That cast monster is 20 lbs on it's own

TOSTO RACING

iTrader: (37)

I love my 9" narrowed 3" per side one day I'll get to drive it hopefully.

Magnus

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My strange 12 bolt narrowed 2" on both ends with all the light weight options is lighter than a 10 bolt. I dont have exact measurements but I was barely able to move my 10 bolt around (lifting it in the air).. but was very able to move my 12 bolt around..

This was with drums on the 10 bolt and drag brakes on the 12 bolt.

I don't see how the lightest 9" could be lighter than the lightest 12 bolt but perhaps I'm missing something.

onfire

iTrader: (17)

My Moser with lube, brake backing plates,Eaton,33spline ready to bolt in weighed 196 lbs...to compare to J's you need to add lube weight and backing plate weight. My stock 10 bolt with lube and backing plates weighed 166 lbs. Neither had a roll bar or brackets on them.

PewterZ28

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01Z, I think I saw your 9" in the shop when I dropped off my car last Saturday. Are you the one who got rid of the 12 bolt with 4.10 gears? If so I almost considered buying your 12 bolt from you. Also, was your car in the shop? There was a Z28 in there with a FAST 90 intake that Jay said runs high 9's. Nice car if that was yours.

So how much weight does a 12 bolt add over the stock 10 bolt? I'm seeing all kinds of numbers being thrown around. If I could have spent the same amount of money on a 9" and been a lot lighter I'm going to be pissed at myself for going with the 12 bolt.

CAT3

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Yet another thing that I have thrown into the equation of what rear end to get and from who, is the fact I havent seen anyone post up saying **** about gear whine, leaks etc using a Billingsley piece. Maybe the a few pounds to some, but the piece of mind will go a long way with my hard earned Army dollar!
Thanks for posting it up 01-Z

Charlie

onfire

iTrader: (17)

Moser 12 bolt is 30 lbs heavier than a stock 10 bolt.

y2khawk

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my 12 bolt leaked constantly. The 9" hasn't leaked once.

Can't really comment on gear whine, it's a racecar

Not to mention I've already swapped gears in it once, went down to a 3.60 pro-gear from the installed 3.70.

JS

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Yes but we still havent compared apples to apples...

What does a 12-bolt with posi,33 splines and cover weigh w/fluid
What does a nodular locker with 35 spline weigh w/fluid

I want to know when there both setup in a similar way is there a weight difference?I know a alum center makes a difference as does drilled axles bu I wanna know what a 12-bolt like I suggested weighs compared to a similar 9in.

I say my 12-bolt is lighter,Now if I went gunned drilled,alum center with spool then yes I can see the 9in weighing less.Remember though the 9in takes more HP to turn too so in my case if the rears are within 20lbs of each other then I'll keep my 12-bolt but if its 100+ then I would think about going 9in....But I wouldnt run an Alum center nor a spool or gun drilled axles so thats why I want a fair comparo..

Anyone??????

FWIW,My Moser works perfectly and has never dripped a drop of fluid?

PewterZ28

iTrader: (1)

And the 9" is lighter than the 12 bolt by how much?

JS

iTrader: (4)

I just got off the phone w/Moser and comparing apples to apples....
The cast housing 12-bolt vs a cast housing 9in is......12-bolts lighter by at LEAST 50lbs.

Now they told me a FABBED housing will really help with weight but its not gonna be that much of a difference if u put a nodular center in the Fabbed housing.I agree,that if u wanna build a superlite Fabbed 9in it will be lighter than a 12-bolt but u should at least let people know what your comparing or people could be mislead.

FACT,My 12-bolt is lighter and takes less hp to turn than the a 9in.