View Full Version : And I thought LS1's were fast. :)


Zepher
03-08-2005, 12:03 AM
As the old saying goes, "A picture is worth a thousand words", here is 7000 words worth.
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/hampton1.jpg

http://www.transamws6.com/pics/hampton2.jpg

http://www.transamws6.com/pics/hampton3.jpg

http://www.transamws6.com/pics/hampton4.jpg

kyle91z28
03-08-2005, 12:12 AM
whos to say u dont have an LS1 in ur car??? or a 350 crate engine modded out? :nod:

kyle91z28
03-08-2005, 12:15 AM
or a 305 tpi manual with holley stealth ram n tons of other mods???

deetsnai
03-08-2005, 12:31 AM
based on his sig ima say ......NOS!!!!!!!!

Zepher
03-08-2005, 12:33 AM
I don't have Nitrous on the car, it's a bone stock internal 305 with an HSR and A/C Delete pulley. the N2O kit is still sitting in the garage.

Zepher
03-08-2005, 12:33 AM
my little motor,
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/formula/hsr3.jpg

jerrad
03-08-2005, 12:35 AM
I thought that the v8's were ls1's not the v6's ;) . Nice kill

kyle91z28
03-08-2005, 12:38 AM
U sure thats not a 350? I dont really see a 305 tpi with a Holley Stealth Ram beating an LS1, considering the fact that you would need a bigger cam and better headers to even get the full effect out of the Holley Stealth Ram, also a 305 tpi is kind of shitty with a HSR.

kyle91z28
03-08-2005, 12:39 AM
Also, you DO have nitrous.

Camaroz
03-08-2005, 12:44 AM
where? :eyes: :huh:

Zepher
03-08-2005, 12:48 AM
Also, you DO have nitrous.

Are you saying my fuel lines are Nitrous lines?

Zepher
03-08-2005, 12:49 AM
I had this setup,
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/formula/tpi_nos3.jpg
but this plate setup won't work with the HSR.

Zepher
03-08-2005, 12:51 AM
U sure thats not a 350? I dont really see a 305 tpi with a Holley Stealth Ram beating an LS1, considering the fact that you would need a bigger cam and better headers to even get the full effect out of the Holley Stealth Ram, also a 305 tpi is kind of shitty with a HSR.

I don't know, for all I know it could be a 305, 350, 400 or any other sbc.

Camaroz
03-08-2005, 12:55 AM
Are you saying my fuel lines are Nitrous lines?
Apparently :jest:

x phantom x
03-08-2005, 01:07 AM
.
You're right, the stock ones are slow .... but it doesn't look like you're much faster.

Congrats. :)

Formula-T/A
03-08-2005, 02:34 AM
bs on stock 305. I see the nos plate. good kill :burn:

deetsnai
03-08-2005, 02:47 AM
u know why u won, cuz the ls1 was in reverse, that would explain the pull

RedHatRdRacer
03-08-2005, 03:03 AM
im working on a 305 myself. i had went down the road of modding out a tpi and ls1's are still faster

12stones
03-08-2005, 07:51 AM
Nice kill, any info on that LS1?

ActionJack
03-08-2005, 08:07 AM
Nice kill, any info on that LS1?


Is the LS1 stock?


Also, the hood looks good since you had it painted.

Zepher
03-08-2005, 08:09 AM
LS1 has a loudmouth, and a bunch of free mods.

My car isn't tuned at all, haven't had a chance to datalog and burn a chip.
I think I am putting down about 150hp to the wheels. I did put a T5 and some 3.73 gears in the car.

And the nos plate isn't on the car anymore, the lines ran under the TPI Plenum but won't work under the HSR.

12stones
03-08-2005, 08:53 AM
If your putting down 150 to the ground, seems like thats about half of what you'd need to play. Is that T/A A4 or M6? what kind of tires do both of you have?LS1 has a loudmouth, and a bunch of free mods.

My car isn't tuned at all, haven't had a chance to datalog and burn a chip.
I think I am putting down about 150hp to the wheels. I did put a T5 and some 3.73 gears in the car.

And the nos plate isn't on the car anymore, the lines ran under the TPI Plenum but won't work under the HSR.

BBQLS1
03-08-2005, 08:55 AM
I don't know, for all I know it could be a 305, 350, 400 or any other sbc.

Or a 265?

Skarecrow
03-08-2005, 09:45 AM
No fair racing an ls1 with a broken A4 tranny that only has 1st gear. :jest:

lt1maro
03-08-2005, 12:26 PM
What does your car weight like 30 lbs? :confused:

mimic42100
03-08-2005, 12:32 PM
LS1 has a loudmouth, and a bunch of free mods.

My car isn't tuned at all, haven't had a chance to datalog and burn a chip.
I think I am putting down about 150hp to the wheels. I did put a T5 and some 3.73 gears in the car.

And the nos plate isn't on the car anymore, the lines ran under the TPI Plenum but won't work under the HSR.

He might mean "I think I am putting down about 150+HP with the spray.."

:D

bottlefed5.0
03-08-2005, 12:38 PM
Hey Zepher, are you from Texas?

Skarecrow
03-08-2005, 12:58 PM
So seriously now, I'm feeling dumb. What's the secret? What's the in-joke? How did a 305 without nitrous or forced induction beat an LS1 TA? Did he find the world's only mid-15 second LS1? Does his car weigh 1700lbs? Are those really nitrous lines and he's being sarcastic about them?

darrensls1formula
03-08-2005, 01:33 PM
I'm not convinced that it's not a 3.8 V6 Firebird in that picture. It's hard to tell by the angle if that is a TA, Formula or regular firebird.

But we all know that one of three things has to be true,

1) You beat a V6.

2) You beat a car with major mechanical and or driver issues.

3) You sprayed/have major mods your not disclosing.

:hail: on the victory but :eyes: to the way you presented it

Zepher
03-08-2005, 01:35 PM
Well, the LS1 is in tip top shape. He was keeping up with most of the Supras there too.
I have Nitto 555RII's on all 4 corners, 275/40/17
I am not from Texas
My car weighed in at 3400 with the A4 but I think I may have dropped 20-40lbs going with the T5.
I think the hood really helps since it allows more air to come into the engine bay.

Zepher
03-08-2005, 01:36 PM
I'm not convinced that it's not a 3.8 V6 Firebird in that picture. It's hard to tell by the angle if that is a TA, Formula or regular firebird.

look at teh foglights next to the license plate. That thar is a Trans Am.

Diolar Magnum
03-08-2005, 01:39 PM
what the hell is this supposed to be some riddle thread? This is stupid. If you have only what you say, and that was an LS1, you didn't beat it. So somewhere along the line theere is something unspoken or untrue. Lets have it out, and quit the mystery crap. :gay:

BBQLS1
03-08-2005, 01:56 PM
It's supernaturally powered. :gruffy:

z98
03-08-2005, 02:01 PM
LS1 couldn't get traction :lol:

Actually, this isn't way out of the relm of possibility.

I watched a bone stock bottom end 305 with $700 heads and an $80 cam put down 315 RWHP. Short block had never been out of the car, had heads, cam, exhaust, etc done, but nothing major, not even $1500 total invested in a $500 car. It did have raised compression from the heads though, and could only run on 93 octane, but since LS1's do too it really isn't much of a point.

This COULD happen with a bad driver and lots of mods (which he obviously has).

DAn95
03-08-2005, 02:22 PM
i say u set up the pics. drove ure car a little farther forward than the ls1 and stop take a pic. JK i dont hink a bone stock 305 would beat a ls1 unless u caught tractiona dn he had none what so ever but its possible. Maybe he started in 2nd or 3rd gear

DAn95
03-08-2005, 02:23 PM
Just Kiddin :)

smokeum99ta
03-08-2005, 02:39 PM
Good kill but Im pulling the flag :bs: on the statement that you not running nitrious.I Believe I can see the the lines being plummed off the fuel rail from your first photo.Just because it aint the eye sore red or blue fittings does mean we wont see it.... Then again I could be wrong, and if so I apoligize for doubting you.I still think you sprayed it and did a good job of hiding your nitrious system.

Skarecrow
03-08-2005, 02:41 PM
Well, the LS1 is in tip top shape. He was keeping up with most of the Supras there too.
I have Nitto 555RII's on all 4 corners, 275/40/17
I am not from Texas
My car weighed in at 3400 with the A4 but I think I may have dropped 20-40lbs going with the T5.
I think the hood really helps since it allows more air to come into the engine bay.

Ok, assuming the TA was in tip-top condition and the driver wasn't timmy-level retarded... you're saying basically saying then that you're doing at least low 13s (you had several carlengths on that LS1) then with an internally stock 305? Stock cam? Stock heads? nothing done? That's not impossible... since I know you could strip the fuck out of the old LX 5.0 mustangs, throw slicks on em, and runs 13.7s or so... but those cars were checking in at 2800lbs, not 3400lbs...

Your boltons giving you an extra 120rwhp or so???

The last time I raced some 305s, they were pulling consistant 15.4s...

Color me still confused.

Shackleford
03-08-2005, 02:45 PM
Maybe it's a blown 305. LoL.

FormulaFire
03-08-2005, 02:48 PM
If you look closely you can tell that it'sa V6 bird. Check out the Spoiler. That's no TA spoiler on the hatch. It's flush like a V6 firebird or Formula.. Nice try though bud..

2 FASST SS
03-08-2005, 02:52 PM
Looks like he has the original 305 valve covers on it. But still he could have work done to it. If a 4 cylinder can take out a LS1, why cant a 305??? :confused:

Skarecrow
03-08-2005, 03:05 PM
If you look closely you can tell that it'sa V6 bird. Check out the Spoiler. That's no TA spoiler on the hatch. It's flush like a V6 firebird or Formula.. Nice try though bud..

No, that's a TA spoiler. I know that picnic table spoiler quite well, and that really is how low it sits when you look at the car from that 3/4 angle.

I don't doubt that's a TA. I am doubting that we've heard all the mods that the 305 has.

smokeum99ta
03-08-2005, 03:13 PM
If you look closely you can tell that it'sa V6 bird. Check out the Spoiler. That's no TA spoiler on the hatch. It's flush like a V6 firebird or Formula.. Nice try though bud..
Maybe you need to look alittle closer!Only the trans am has 2 round fog lights just on either side of the licence plate like that one does.A firebird has 4 round lights in the front(outside 2 are fog lights and the inside 2 are running lights)And that is a trans am spoiler on the back too!Along with the side ground effects that a trans am comes with. You might be right though,they may of replaced all of the body pieces to make it look like a trans am. :eyes:

FormulaFire
03-08-2005, 03:28 PM
I know I know.. I'm just trying to discredit this guy.. Cause there is absolutely NO way a stock 305 tpi is beating a 350 LS1.. NO WAY..

C.J.
03-08-2005, 03:39 PM
In the first picture it doesnt look like there is anybody in the 3rd gen bird but it is still 2 cars ahead.

BBQLS1
03-08-2005, 03:52 PM
I remember about 7 years ago, a guy won an award for best engineered car. It was in Car Craft. He had a 10 second 3rd gen firebird with a 305.

Also, in the last small block engine masters challenge (PHR), the guy in 3rd did it with a 307, which I don't think is too far off Bore and Stroke Wise. I forget.

305's are a small block chevy with the same stroke as a 350 and smaller bore. I really feel that the main thing holding the old TPI engines was the intake track. The HSR is pretty bad assed. I love the design, almost a straight shot to the head.

Now, I don't know if this guy is BSing us, but I am sure there are 305's that can run.

I would still build a 350. It's slightly cheaper for more cu. But it would be fun to beat up on LS1's and others with a 305. Some people would just get their feelings hurt.

ActionJack
03-08-2005, 04:07 PM
I think a 305 can beat a stock LS1 with nitrous.

http://www.transamws6.com/pics/formula/tb_plate.jpg

Diolar Magnum
03-08-2005, 04:10 PM
yes it can, so let's hear how from the horse's mouth without all of the witty robert-stack-mystery-show. then we can say awesome job man :cheers:, and I can not race him cause my car is slow as hell.

otherwise its :bs: for all I care.

x phantom x
03-08-2005, 04:12 PM
I cant remember the last time anyone tried to prove a race with pictures?! some of them dont even have a driver in the cars....

this is so stupid.

Skarecrow
03-08-2005, 04:17 PM
Ahh but here's the true test, can this car beat the 8URLS1's LT1 from the other thread? I mean since we're using a TA as a refrence point and all...

mmmm 14 second madness!

ActionJack
03-08-2005, 04:20 PM
Before

http://www.transamws6.com/pics/formula/engine4.jpg


After

http://www.transamws6.com/pics/formula/tpi_nos3.jpg



Nice job hiding it. :cheers:

Street racing can get you some parts if you win and the other guy thought he would win (easily).



Nice ride Zepher and it looks like it can handle autox as well.

So tell...

BURN'EM
03-08-2005, 04:20 PM
The LS1 was catching in the last pic. If the old bird was an auto with stall vs. Ls1 M6 there you go. Thats why the jump off the line till top end when LS1 pulls him back.

Skarecrow
03-08-2005, 04:22 PM
Nice job hiding it. :cheers:

I KNEW there was ~120rwhp hiding around here somewhere.

2 FASST SS
03-08-2005, 05:01 PM
Man if I could hide spray that good in my car I woul be a rich man right now... :thinker:

Diolar Magnum
03-08-2005, 07:24 PM
i thought we already knew that that insert was nitrous. it wasnt that well hidden , its right there. :confused: I am totally missing something I think. I dont think anyone missed the jets in that pic??? or am I wrong?

x phantom x
03-08-2005, 07:41 PM
i thought we already knew that that insert was nitrous. it wasnt that well hidden , its right there. :confused: I am totally missing something I think. I dont think anyone missed the jets in that pic??? or am I wrong?

:jest: That is what I was just thinking? I was assuming he had nitrous, which is why he won, if he did?

I think it's a horrible job hiding it .... there is a plate right there, it even has the tell tale blue and red connectors for fuel and nitrous ....

Maybe the plumbing is hidden, but what does that matter when the plate, jets, and connectors are so obvious?
:confused:

Diolar Magnum
03-08-2005, 08:24 PM
:jest: That is what I was just thinking? I was assuming he had nitrous, which is why he won, if he did?

I think it's a horrible job hiding it .... there is a plate right there, it even has the tell tale blue and red connectors for fuel and nitrous ....

Maybe the plumbing is hidden, but what does that matter when the plate, jets, and connectors are so obvious?
:confused:

Exactly. And I thought he denied it, saying something about it's his fuel line, not nitrous? I don't know. either way if he was saying he didnt have nitrous, (even with it in his sig) and then no one could see it in that pic, then... well I dont even know what to say. that's unbelieveable. I bet everyone was just confused though, and discounted what it obviously is. I just figured that I was being the dumb one, and for whatever reason those jet's were his fuel, not nitrous???

I am still thoroughly confused as to how this happened.

I mean if that is nitrous, then sure its totally feasible he could outrun the stock LS1. But I thought the point was that he said he didn't spray. I dunno.

Well if that's the truth, and you outran that LS1 with Nitrous, Zepher, let me be the first to apologize for being completely confused. good run man. :cheers:

Zepher
03-08-2005, 08:45 PM
Those pics of the old TPI setup have the Nos plate, the Holley Stealth Ram I have on there now doesn't have the plate since there is no space under the plenum for the plate to the solenoid lines..
here is another shot of the current motor so you can see that there is no plate on the intake,
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/formula/hsr1.jpg

here are some better pics of the victim, :D
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/hampton8.jpg

http://www.transamws6.com/pics/hampton9.jpg

Diolar Magnum
03-08-2005, 08:52 PM
so then you have it running behind your fuel rails, or mixed w/ fuel prior to a top/down visible place?

or were you really sneaky and covered it with standard rubber hose? :devil:

sccas10
03-08-2005, 08:53 PM
ok I was there taking the vid and yes he has a stock 305 in the car with alot of miles. b the other car is a LS1 with stright pipes and a 75 shot. So if he does have nitrous so did the other car. Just look at the pics and give some respect to the thirsd gen.................

unit213
03-08-2005, 08:58 PM
deleted. :nono:

Diolar Magnum
03-08-2005, 09:00 PM
deleted - unit
wha....? :confused:

Zepher
03-08-2005, 09:03 PM
Ok, here is the vid.
As you can see, I let off since I was sooooooo far ahead.
http://www.transamws6.com/video/race.wmv

unit213
03-08-2005, 09:06 PM
Damn it...they killed my pic. :(

Ahh well..probably for the best.

unit213
03-08-2005, 09:08 PM
Looks to me like you got the jump then he hawked your ass quick.

Diolar Magnum
03-08-2005, 09:32 PM
it actually didnt look like either of you were moving that quick. :confused: did you spin at all? how fast did you race until, or what distance? and wwhat was the car in the foreground? (purple-ish)

WS-Sick
03-08-2005, 09:33 PM
Looked like he was reeling you in pretty quickly. Where is the whole vid in the same spot with the supras and bikes and vette? I saw it before and can't find it anywhere...

Zepher
03-08-2005, 10:18 PM
I don't know where the full vid is, I have half of the footage on my machine and we edited the entire vid at a friends place, just need to get all the footage and re-edit it my way.

aNuBiS
03-08-2005, 10:23 PM
I didnt know a shitty driver meant LS1's were slow. Learn something new everyday.. :eyes:

4.6gt-2-ls1ta
03-08-2005, 10:24 PM
Why does the video show so little, you should add the part of the video were that LS1 walks past you.

Frontman
03-08-2005, 10:41 PM
This has to be the worst thread on the internet. Stock 305 TPI third gens run ~15.2 so please don't tell me your car walks low 13 second cars stock.

ritz
03-08-2005, 10:49 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

HOLY SHIT MANNY.

This is great. That TA is in the 12's too guys FYI. And I've known Manny for quite sometime and he lives a few blocks down from me and his car is stock...I'm being totally serious.

x phantom x
03-08-2005, 11:02 PM
.
zzzzzzzzz.

qwikz28
03-08-2005, 11:06 PM
i bet that TA driver was as bad a driver as me. lol

before i bought my Z i had a old v6 camry and i beat a tpi a4 camaro. that camaro was old, heavy and in bad condiiton. but i still won

nice kill man. and i like your bird, it looks real fresh by the way

obZidian
03-08-2005, 11:31 PM
i would like to see the rest of da vid man............

Also, looks like the ta shifted early, but reeeled you in quick....well, after the vid had ended.

I have a questions...the rubber lines going into yur tb on the left hand side (if facing the motor) are those for cooling with antifreeze or noz?

i will admit that it would be a nice kill if more evidence was shown....

transamman400
03-09-2005, 12:04 AM
Well you can hear that TA shift into second gear. I'd say judging by the sound of it it was at like 3400-3700 RPM. How fast would that be in an M6? By the time the movie cuts out I would say they are going about 60 mph, give or take 5...maybe more. If that 305 TPI is stock then I could see it holding off until that point if it got a good jump (which it did), but you can see the LS1 gaining on him like a SOB. Which leads me to believe this is why the movie is cut off at that point...lol. I think Zephyr is just making a friendly joke trying to get a rise out of us. He knows how fast his car is. Just out of curiousity, how fast does that 305 get down the quarter?

x phantom x
03-09-2005, 12:28 AM
lol i just watched it ....

the LS1 was pulling on you like it was nobodies business .... he obviously gave you a second or two hit, you got a few cars out, and he was reelin you in. Definately seems like he started in second gear at a low RPM, you can hear it get into the power band, and then its almost over ... still sounds like it's in second gear.

Only a ricer would call this a win ..... I know why the video is only 3 seconds long, because after that you saw him pulling on you, slammed on the brakes and threw your hazards on .... right?

lame. :eyes:

viper1
03-09-2005, 12:44 AM
:bs: That TA was about to rip his doors off. Nice editing. :eyes:

ActionJack
03-09-2005, 03:37 AM
Even in the current motor pic I think you have nitrous lines from behind the fuel rails. That with 4.? gears and drag slicks would give you a nice jump off the line. Then the LS1 being stock and on street tires reeled you in fast.

Well... that is the way I see it. I think we need the rest of the vid. But, what do you mean edited "your way"?

I don't know where the full vid is, I have half of the footage on my machine and we edited the entire vid at a friends place, just need to get all the footage and re-edit it my way.

88GTA
03-09-2005, 03:42 AM
i beat my friend in his '02 z28 with my '88 GTA a bunch of times... till he figured out that whole shifting thing.:drive:
but i can still beat him across an intersection. as soon as i get to the other side, I stop racing :secret2:

unit213
03-09-2005, 05:53 AM
I had a '86 TA with a 305 in it. It was the biggest hunk of shit ever. Of course I was only 16yo so I thought it was nice. Mid 15's at best.

-Q-
03-09-2005, 09:41 AM
I think Zephyr is just making a friendly joke trying to get a rise out of us.

Which obviously has worked.

tooquick2beslo
03-09-2005, 09:59 AM
I watched the vid and must say that the LS1 was reeling you in very very hard.
I dont think Zephyr is spraying. I believe that he just got the jump because the LS1 was spinning. You can hear the LS1 spinning in the video. I would like to see the whole vid.

cantdrv65
03-09-2005, 10:06 AM
My grandma could beat a stock TPI 305 driving an Ls1. If the 305 sprayed a 150 shot, Grandma would STILL win. :jest: If you have hidden nitrous before that high rise ram setup would make it awfully easy to plumb direct port nozzles from the BOTTOM of the intake. Drill holes for the N2O lines through the back of the oil valley and only the experts will find it, and it will take them a couple of hours. I saw this setup on a Monte Carlo wiith a forged 305 err (383) that looked EXACTLY as the 305 looked stock. 10 second car on radials ;) Yeah, that car made more than a few dollars. :)

titanium barchetta
03-09-2005, 10:09 AM
My grandma could beat a stock TPI 305 driving an Ls1. If the 305 sprayed a 150 shot, Grandma would STILL win. :jest: If you have hidden nitrous before that high rise ram setup would make it awfully easy to plumb direct port nozzles from the BOTTOM of the intake. Drill holes for the N2O lines through the back of the oil valley and only the experts will find it, and it will take them a couple of hours. I saw this setup on a Monte Carlo wiith a forged 305 err (383) that looked EXACTLY as the 305 looked stock. 10 second car on radials ;) Yeah, that car made more than a few dollars. :)

Hehe, I think I remember that car from La Marque..... :)

This guy is pulling all your chains and doing a damn fine job of it if I do say so my self! :emb:

x phantom x
03-09-2005, 11:01 AM
I had a '86 TA with a 305 in it. It was the biggest hunk of shit ever. Of course I was only 16yo so I thought it was nice. Mid 15's at best.

hah nooooo .... my first car when i was 16 was an 82 ta m4, which my dad (owns an autobody shop) took the 305 out of, and put a 4cylinder in it. Wow was that thing ever slowwwww.
:(

Zepher
03-09-2005, 11:48 AM
Yes, this was a joke thread.
Get the video again, I just uploaded the longer one.
My car ran a 15.2 @ 90mph before I put the HSR on the motor. Had the NOS plate but never sprayed the car and there is no Nitrous on the car now.

unit213
03-09-2005, 12:13 PM
hah nooooo .... my first car when i was 16 was an 82 ta m4, which my dad (owns an autobody shop) took the 305 out of, and put a 4cylinder in it. Wow was that thing ever slowwwww.
:(
Ok...you win. :D

Skarecrow
03-09-2005, 12:54 PM
Ok...you win. :D

I had a 92 ford tempo. 2.3L i4. whopping 105hp I believe.
power nothing
no options
former government car.
I was lucky it had a radio and air conditioning.

I used to think it was fast from 0-30. Now I can't even tell if the TA is fast from 0-30 because by the time I think to look at the speedo I'm already over 50. hah

BBQLS1
03-09-2005, 02:10 PM
Ok...you win. :D

You mean he lost right?

DAn95
03-09-2005, 03:25 PM
Saturn sl1 auto!!! light plum bad ass car man.

DAn95
03-09-2005, 03:26 PM
Yes, this was a joke thread.
Get the video again, I just uploaded the longer one.
My car ran a 15.2 @ 90mph before I put the HSR on the motor
no shit

ActionJack
03-09-2005, 05:06 PM
http://www.transamws6.com/video/race.wmv

Yes, this was a joke thread.
Get the video again, I just uploaded the longer one.
My car ran a 15.2 @ 90mph before I put the HSR on the motor. Had the NOS plate but never sprayed the car and there is no Nitrous on the car now.


joke thread :bang:

x phantom x
03-09-2005, 05:53 PM
Ok...you win. :D


WoHOO!!! Finally, I get the respect I deserve. :jest:
.

Camaroz
03-09-2005, 06:41 PM
hah nooooo .... my first car when i was 16 was an 82 ta m4, which my dad (owns an autobody shop) took the 305 out of, and put a 4cylinder in it. Wow was that thing ever slowwwww.
:(
why did he do that? wasnt slow enough already? :jest:

Diolar Magnum
03-09-2005, 07:50 PM
so what the hell is the point of all this. this thread is almost as bad as my cheeseburger cobra.

Zepher
03-09-2005, 08:23 PM
so what the hell is the point of all this. this thread is almost as bad as my cheeseburger cobra.
just for some light comedy

Vendetta
03-09-2005, 08:26 PM
All of you guys bragging about shitty first cars, I have you beat.

http://hometown.aol.com/antivtec350/images/pos89.jpg

89 Ford aerostar... the ULTIMATE pimp wagon.

StoleIt
03-09-2005, 09:42 PM
"click, click. deleted." - Jim Carry, Liar Liar.

qwikz28
03-09-2005, 10:14 PM
All of you guys bragging about shitty first cars, I have you beat.

http://hometown.aol.com/antivtec350/images/pos89.jpg

89 Ford aerostar... the ULTIMATE pimp wagon.
thats a pretty good condition aerostar :judge:

x phantom x
03-10-2005, 04:49 AM
why did he do that? wasnt slow enough already? :jest:

I don't know ... everyone at school called it the "Fire-Pigeon", which eventually just became "pigeon" for short.
:cry: :jest: :bang:

x phantom x
03-10-2005, 04:50 AM
All of you guys bragging about shitty first cars, I have you beat.

http://hometown.aol.com/antivtec350/images/pos89.jpg

89 Ford aerostar... the ULTIMATE pimp wagon.


I don't know ... I think that thing would have beat my car from a dig. :jest:

DRACO911
03-10-2005, 12:02 PM
I don't know ... I think that thing would have beat my car from a dig. :jest:

What, in reverse? :jest:

x phantom x
03-10-2005, 12:40 PM
What, in reverse? :jest:

haha, no I meant my first car ... 82 ta with the engine changed to a 4cylinder. Thing was sloowwwwwwwwww.

DRACO911
03-10-2005, 12:48 PM
haha, no I meant my first car ... 82 ta with the engine changed to a 4cylinder. Thing was sloowwwwwwwwww.

HAHA. Can I ask why the hell you had 4cyl TA.

02BlueFormula
03-10-2005, 01:14 PM
His dad specialized it for him.

On another note what was ford thinking with the 4 cylinder turbo stang i think it as the svo or something was that thing actually ever fast or could it have been made to be fast?

baddogz28
03-10-2005, 02:00 PM
http://www.moparts.org/moparts/carshow/2003/4/img/scarevandan1.jpg

Except mine had Pimp Daddy Kane wood paneling.


This thread is a jumble of nonsensical lies and total fabrication on Zephyr's part.

He's THAT guy that goes WOT next to a car that isn't racing and says that he won the "race." Zephyr, don't be that guy.

Admit that you would get clubbed like a baby seal by 90% of the LS1 F-bodies on this site. :rolleyes:

DAn95
03-10-2005, 02:03 PM
Admit that you would get clubbed like a baby seal by 90% of the LS1 F-bodies on this sitehahaha

x phantom x
03-10-2005, 02:03 PM
HAHA. Can I ask why the hell you had 4cyl TA.

It's back a page or so .... that was the car my dad built for me as my first car. It's what made me save up and buy my first TA (used 97 ws6) on my own, so he couldn't touch it.

:jest:

1998silverbird
03-10-2005, 05:59 PM
Nothing can beat a Ls1.. :eyes: Good kill Manny.. You had him through the 1/8th.. Cant wait till you get your car tuned.. Should be a pretty nasty 305..
I need to get my slow turd tuned also..

Vendetta
03-10-2005, 07:51 PM
thats a pretty good condition aerostar :judge:

That ones not mine, mine was a darker gray and the body was pretty badly rusted.

Skarecrow
03-10-2005, 10:03 PM
His dad specialized it for him.

On another note what was ford thinking with the 4 cylinder turbo stang i think it as the svo or something was that thing actually ever fast or could it have been made to be fast?

It was faster than the GT of the same year(s). 10 or 15 More HP and weighed a bit less. The turbo 2.3L didn't have the same kind of aftermarket that the 5.0L had, but there are a few companies that made parts for it. It's been a long time since I read about it, but I seem to remember that 250rwhp wasn't out of the question from the engine with a few mods. I don't know if you could get it up to, say evo/sti/srt-4 spec tho... It's a generation older technology.

ritz
03-10-2005, 10:30 PM
His dad specialized it for him.

On another note what was ford thinking with the 4 cylinder turbo stang i think it as the svo or something was that thing actually ever fast or could it have been made to be fast?

Hahaha wow. Have you ever even researched 2.3L turbocharged Ford motors. There are plenty of fast SVO's and other 2.3L. Maybe you just haven't run across any, but I hope they don't have any pity when you do.

99_transam
03-13-2005, 03:59 AM
Ok im the owner of the ls1 in those pics. the guy that started this post is full of shit. that was a fun run and it was only about a 8th of a mile if that. This was done after I totally screwed the tires doing burnouts and donuts . If I had some webspace Id post the whole video fo the race that shows me spinning for like 50 feet and then passing him up when I got halfway into second gear and then blwoing past him. he then hit his brakes 2 seconds after I passed him. Oh heres the best part I gave him a 1 car kick. If anyone is willing to share some webspace to host the vid Ill happily put it up so everyone can see that the LS1 did NOT GET BEAT BY A 305 TPI . oh also I did have a 75 shot at the time whitch I did not even use.And this was also before the Headers or the stall I have listed as mods. heres some captures that he didnt show I took from the video

Camaroz
03-13-2005, 02:42 PM
If anyone is willing to share some webspace to host the vid Ill happily put it up so everyone can see that the LS1 did NOT GET BEAT BY A 305 TPI
ill host it PM me

BigBronco
03-13-2005, 02:47 PM
i said it once and i will say it again...

you beat a stock ls1... yAy! :rolleyes:

BigBronco
03-13-2005, 02:49 PM
Ok im the owner of the ls1 in those pics. the guy that started this post is full of shit.

good


but let me say this, you have ONE WAY TO BIG OF A STALL for your car..


not to mention that 150 shot blows right through it i am sure..

put a tighter stall.. like 3200-3600 and a cam.. and you will never EVER get beat even in the 1/8th mile by that POS turd gen

99_transam
03-13-2005, 04:08 PM
Actually my stall is perfect for the setup im going 232.-234 cam stage 2 x heads it will be perfect. I figured get the big stall now and i wont have to change it out later. I allready had a 3200 and i hated it.

EATAZ06MMM
03-13-2005, 06:21 PM
I don't have Nitrous on the car, it's a bone stock internal 305 with an HSR and A/C Delete pulley. the N2O kit is still sitting in the garage.


There's no way a stock 305 LT1 would beat an LS1 unless the LS1 driver had a blood alcohol level of .18%. You gotta be running nitrous.


I just don't buy it. no offense.....

Vendetta
03-13-2005, 06:33 PM
There's no way a stock 305 LT1 would beat an LS1 unless the LS1 driver had a blood alcohol level of .18%. You gotta be running nitrous.

A 305 TBI/TPI is not an LT1

unit213
03-13-2005, 06:43 PM
A 305 TBI/TPI is not an LT1
I wonder why eataz06mmm doesn't buy it when he isn't aware of this fact. :confused:

Unforgiven1
03-13-2005, 07:22 PM
Yes, this was a joke thread.
Get the video again, I just uploaded the longer one.
My car ran a 15.2 @ 90mph before I put the HSR on the motor. Had the NOS plate but never sprayed the car and there is no Nitrous on the car now.
Just in case you were wondering and didn't feel like reading through the whole thread like I just did,there it is...that(quote above) says all. I can never quite understand why there is ever any kind of debate in these types of things. Most of the time, if it seems a little too far-fetched it probably is. What gets me even more is why someone would even care to post something like this up. I guess just to see the reaction. So it served it's purpose because he had a lot of folks questioning this. It was fiction from the first post. As a lot of folks said, stock 15 second car doesn't beat stock mid to upper 13s car if driver=driver. I say we all stop wasting time on stupid "joke" posts like this.


Justin

Camaroz
03-14-2005, 11:56 AM
Right...........

Diolar Magnum
03-14-2005, 12:19 PM
aagh die thread die :guns:

baddogz28
03-14-2005, 12:47 PM
I said it once and will say it again: The guy who started this thread is a tool.

Camaroz
03-14-2005, 04:00 PM
Here is the Video 99_TransAm wanted hosted... he said he would put the link up or i misunderstood since he hasnt put it up yet but here it is...

HERE (http://vids.camaroz.net/meandmany2.avi) :engarde:

BigBronco
03-14-2005, 05:05 PM
Actually my stall is perfect for the setup im going 232.-234 cam stage 2 x heads it will be perfect. I figured get the big stall now and i wont have to change it out later. I allready had a 3200 and i hated it.


i still see you losing time with nitrous just blowing through your converter... not to mention with you being on stock springs and cam... it does not help either

1QwickLT1
03-14-2005, 10:58 PM
Is the LS1 stock?


Also, the hood looks good since you had it painted.

:jest: :jest:

transamman400
03-14-2005, 11:54 PM
Can't you guys take a joke? Holy shiznit. You guys would think that was hysterical if it was a Mach 1 instead of a WS6. Give me a break.

ActionJack
03-15-2005, 06:55 AM
:jest: :jest:

Read the whole thread :eyes:


I can not beleive you guys are still digging this one up.

01black
03-15-2005, 09:04 AM
I owned a 305 and I know damn well it wouldnt have taken out an LS1 like that w/o a whole lotta help.

FLeXNuTZ
03-15-2005, 10:57 AM
Ok, assuming the TA was in tip-top condition and the driver wasn't timmy-level retarded....

Lol, that would be pretty bad. LIVILALIVILALIVILA TIMMMAHHHHHHH!!!! GO TIMMY GO!!!

Camaroz
03-15-2005, 11:09 AM
Lol, that would be pretty bad. LIVILALIVILALIVILA TIMMMAHHHHHHH!!!! GO TIMMY GO!!!
:jest: :jest:

Zepher
03-16-2005, 05:50 PM
You guys are too funny. 99_Transam got a lot of flack over on our local boards and was getting pretty upset, but it was all in good fun.
All I know is that if the road has curves that I will walk past him like I did this past weekend. It seems as though stock suspended LS1's handle like shit while a pretty much stock suspended 17 year old 3rd gen with 130K miles on it handles like it is on rails.

Skarecrow
03-17-2005, 08:32 AM
It seems as though stock suspended LS1's handle like shit while a pretty much stock suspended 17 year old 3rd gen with 130K miles on it handles like it is on rails.

Shouldn't you have started a new thread for a new joke?

Diolar Magnum
03-17-2005, 08:35 AM
Shouldn't you have started a new thread for a new joke?

:jest:

hey zepher but seriously sorry forr gettin bent outta shape earlier, was my bad man. :)

ActionJack
03-17-2005, 10:32 AM
Shouldn't you have started a new thread for a new joke?


LOL


I was about to type, "here we go again". :jest:

Zepher
03-17-2005, 06:59 PM
Shouldn't you have started a new thread for a new joke?

That is far from being a joke. I honestly thought he was going to spin out on the HOV lanes and that isn't a good place to spin out since it is only 2 lanes with 3-4' concrete walls on both sides.
If you haven't owned or riden in a 3rd gen Iroc or WS6 with shocks and struts in good working order, then you probably don't have a feel for how these older cars ride.

Jeep_junkie
03-18-2005, 03:38 AM
Zepher's no tool. I know him back from a thirdgen board I frequented when I had a TPI car myself. This was obviously a joke as we can all tell, so no need to get all worked up about it.

Zepher, wasn't there once an LT1 going into that car, or even actually in it for some time? I have a small video clip of your car from back when it was still in like 5 different colors. That motor (305 I think) sounded good... nice lope to it. There's also a nice black TA with OZ Monte Carlos in that vid. About time that car got painted :p . Looks good now. What ever happened to that LT1 though ???

Clipper
03-18-2005, 11:26 AM
ARGH! Can I please have my 5 minutes back?

RUSH
03-18-2005, 06:56 PM
Good run though.

Zepher
03-19-2005, 12:09 AM
Zepher's no tool. I know him back from a thirdgen board I frequented when I had a TPI car myself. This was obviously a joke as we can all tell, so no need to get all worked up about it.

Zepher, wasn't there once an LT1 going into that car, or even actually in it for some time? I have a small video clip of your car from back when it was still in like 5 different colors. That motor (305 I think) sounded good... nice lope to it. There's also a nice black TA with OZ Monte Carlos in that vid. About time that car got painted :p . Looks good now. What ever happened to that LT1 though ???

The LT1 car was my 86 Trans Am that I just recently sold to a friend of mine who wanted the suspension and drivetrain from it. I lost motivation to finish it.
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/05-2003/front_drivers.jpg
http://www.transamws6.com/pics/06-2004/lt1_new.jpg

brifri
03-21-2005, 08:09 PM
That car looks sweet with the 91-92 GFX.
I also respect zepher from thirdgen.org lots of info there.
Got the same gfx on my 87 Iroc just need a paint job now.

johnny walker
02-08-2011, 07:53 AM
your not telling us everything or something was WRONG that car or maybe a 6 year old was driving. Not a chance in hell you beat a LS1 w/ a 195 hp car. YOUR REALLY NOT VERY INFO.

I HAVE A PRETTY MUCH STOCK WS6 LS1. I'LL GIVE YOU 3 CARS & BEAT YOU BY @ LEAST 3. COME ON DUDE, GET REAL

beerman985
02-08-2011, 08:04 AM
way to bring back a 6 year old thread and that car isn't that bad for what it is. raced with him out at the auto cross. maybe the firebird spun and he didn't.

WSsick
02-08-2011, 08:15 AM
your not telling us everything or something was WRONG that car or maybe a 6 year old was driving. Not a chance in hell you beat a LS1 w/ a 195 hp car. YOUR REALLY NOT VERY INFO.

I HAVE A PRETTY MUCH STOCK WS6 LS1. I'LL GIVE YOU 3 CARS & BEAT YOU BY @ LEAST 3. COME ON DUDE, GET REAL

Seriously noob? Look at the dates next time. What the hell were you searching for?