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Old 04-21-2005, 07:13 AM
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how much are you torquing the crank bolt? 240 ft/lbs souns like a whole lot.
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Yeh, get that mother back on REAL tight. After a H/C install my motor squeeked bad. I thought I had a bad pulley.

It turns out the crank bolt was not re-tightened to factory specs. Mine was so tight from the factory that I had to use a five foot lead pipe and a 1/2 breaker bar to get it off....

You don't have to use a new crank bolt but nearly everyone does at $5 each
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exactically how many ft/lbs of torque you guys using... dont tell me to look at ls1howto.com because i've read it i just dont believe it takes that much torque...
i want a person whos done this them self... not "hear say" (spell)

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Do it like LS1howto says, i've done a few of these with no problems.
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Originally Posted by Bluehawk27
Do it like LS1howto says, i've done a few of these with no problems.
I dont see anywhere on ls1howto.com where it talks about installing the UD pulley. The list goes 1-18 and i dont see it
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Yes, it does take that much torque.
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technically its 240 ft/lbs to seat it....
then pull out bolt..put in new bolt at 37ft/lbs... then torque to yeild... 140*

and yes it does take that much torque
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Yep took 2 people to get to 240. We did it.
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ha...got ya beat....
it took 2 people on mine.. but it was me underneath pulling on the torque wrench...and using the tire as leverage.... and a 2nd person holding their foot on the brake....while it was in 6th gear...and the emergency brake was on....
I kept spinning the thing before it was tight...(car was up on all 4 jackstands)
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Sounds like you need a flywheel locking tool. It simply replaces the starter and locks the flywheel in place. It's a HUGE help!
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I managed to hold my flywheel with a crowbar through the cap in the tranny, while 2 people torqued the bolt, it is on there GOOD, broke the breaker bar too
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I did mine to 240 w/ stock bolt then reinstalled ARP bolt and went to 235 or so as per ARP instructions.
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soundengineer, is correct in his post. The crank bolt is a torque to YIELD bolt. Meaning once it's torqued it actually stretches and therefore CANNOT be used again!!!!
Everytime your crank pulley comes off you MUST buy another crank bolt.
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Just as a comparison, on my Buick GN the crank pulley spec is 250+ ft.lb. That is actually how the service manual states it, at least 250 ft.lb with no upper limit listed. Its not a TTY bolt either.
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Originally Posted by www.LS1HowTo.com
Grab your biggest torque wrench and attempt to torque that bolt down to 240lbft. I have always stopped at 200lbft on my installs and I've never had a problem, so if you can't hit 240 (which I never have), don't worry about it. Now, break the bolt free and remove it.

Take your NEW crank pulley bolt and thread it in all the way by hand. Torque this bolt to 37lbft. Now, we need to stretch the bolt into place. Get your breaker bar and pipe extension, and try to turn the bolt 140degrees past where it is at now, keeping in mind the engine will be trying to turn some and those are degrees you can't count. Again, I always seem to get about 90-100 degrees worth (estimating, knowing what 90 degrees looks like) and leave it as is so don't worry about going crazy here.
This is what is on LS1HowTo.
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I did mine the same way as LS1howto.com said to. I had mine on an engine stand and had to use a prybar to hold the flywheel. But I still got it torqued.
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and its bad to use an impact wrench too o well, guess its time to find another 5 foot cast iron pipe.
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Is an impact wrench ok for use at anytime while doing the UD pulley install. Removal or installing? Dont wanna f up the seal or anything.
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I remove mine with an impact wrench..
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You can remove stuff with an impact wrench, I would never, ever assemble anything with one.




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