Manual Transmission - Bullet Proofing T56
zombiedude
06-27-2005, 03:12 PM
What or where do I go to get the parts to make this tranny better than it is. The viper has a T56 and they don't lunch out. Mine has been rebuilt twice. There has got to be a 'kit' somewhere to make this thing BULLET PROOF. Thanks.
Brian2001SS
06-27-2005, 04:52 PM
Have someone rebuild the tranny that knows what they are doing. The Tremec is a great tranny if the tolerances are followed to a "T". Rockland Standard Gear rebuilt mine and it has been flawless so far. I beat the shit out of it every chance I get. I was refered to them by a Tremec rep from the Super Chevy Show. They said it is the tolerances that make these trannys last. They did upgrade many parts, but they were only in the syncros and blocker rings. Other than that, mosty stock back in. They also sent me there own Synthetic fluid for it.
My tranny has shoter throws now, its tight when going in gear, and hammering in it doesn't seen to affect it at all. A total different tranny than what it was when it was new from the factory.
Just my .o2.
zombiedude
07-02-2005, 07:49 AM
I meant is there a update kit. Like brass blocking rings instead of ceramic crap. I have the updated steel fork.
02SOMWS6
07-03-2005, 05:43 PM
The main thing to change is the slider keys. G-force transmissions can hook you up with billet slider keys and carbon blocker rings and so on. The slider keys break and cause a chain reaction.
jerflash
07-03-2005, 06:12 PM
rockland also rebuilt mine and like the other guy said it shifts flawless
i used to miss a gear from time to time when my trans started to eat itself but this trans is rock solid. everything is stock except for the blockers and the syncros. its all in the setup that make a trans last. all trannies are blueprinted and shimed when they are rebuilt at rockland. lucky for me i only live an hour away and did not have to ship mine. they are about an hour away from nyc
zombiedude
07-07-2005, 09:53 AM
I don't want carbon blocking rings. That's what keeps breaking. I want brass or what is better. Any help would be great. Thanks for the replies so far.
1madss
07-07-2005, 09:59 AM
Are you actually breaking the blocker rings or are they just wearing out?
I would call D&D and G-Force to see if there other material available.
zombiedude
07-07-2005, 04:31 PM
breaking, chipping. I have 29,000 miles on it and I never 'dump' the clutch. I learned how to drive farm equip @ 9 yrs old. I'm now 44. I raced a lot of cars. I think I know how to shift. I learn racing on the m-21 and m-22 4 speeds in the old Camaros and Chevelles I have never had trannies go out on me like this one. It's getting old and costly. I will call those places, get the parts and do this myself. (Master Auto Tech.) The dealer can't get it right. But it was under warrenty. Now it's not.
02SOMWS6
07-07-2005, 07:45 PM
your slider keys are breaking and causeing a chain reaction. Billet slider keys is the key to making them last
Y2K SS
07-07-2005, 08:46 PM
All you guys that are having Rockland rebuild your trannys.... are you guys shipping it to them to rebuild? Not an option for my sorry ass in Hawaii.
jerflash
07-07-2005, 08:58 PM
i live a hour from them so that why i went with them
it just so happenes they are some of the best in the buisiness
they build the trannys for linginfelter
i walkin into there warehouse and shop and it is a site when you see 30 t56 trannies on pallets ready to ship
now that i know i will not go anywhere else to ahve a manuel trans rebuilt
they rebuilt my trans in a day!!!
you can ship them yours to be rebuilt or you can just buy one form them
JZ 97 SS 1500
07-07-2005, 09:10 PM
Call G-force, the fastest street car 6 spd on the planet runs a G-force built T56. He's run 8.7's@168+.
sb427f-car
07-08-2005, 08:38 AM
rockland also rebuilt mine and like the other guy said it shifts flawless
i used to miss a gear from time to time when my trans started to eat itself but this trans is rock solid. everything is stock except for the blockers and the syncros. its all in the setup that make a trans last. all trannies are blueprinted and shimed when they are rebuilt at rockland. lucky for me i only live an hour away and did not have to ship mine. they are about an hour away from nyc
An hour which way from NYC? Freight shipping can be expensive!!!!
You can get a viper output/input shaft conversion. But it doesn't look like that is your problem.
Dustin Butts
07-08-2005, 01:48 PM
Zombie...make sure you're getting a good clutch release. You may need a better MC. A clutch that is not releasing fully can wreck synchros....
jerflash
07-08-2005, 04:08 PM
it an hour north of nyc
peterock98
07-08-2005, 05:25 PM
Here's there site http://www.rsgear.com/index.html They also rebuit mine in 2 days.So far so good.
zombiedude
07-08-2005, 07:42 PM
02SOMWS6 your slider keys are breaking and causeing a chain reaction. Billet slider keys is the key to making them last
You can get a viper output/input shaft conversion. But it doesn't look like that is your problem.
That's what I'm talking about. Build it right to handle power. Is there a 'kit'? Or peice it together? All good suggestions from everyone. Thank you. Now we're gettin somewhere. On the viper conversion, is clutch splines differant? And if so, I would imagine a great clutch set up? Thanks all. Keep it coming. =)
Dustin Butts
07-08-2005, 07:55 PM
No. It's a Viper output shaft. No Viper input shaft that I'm aware of for our cars. Viper output shaft is larger in diameter and has more splines. The trans company you choose will give you a new yoke. From what I've seen it looks like you may have to get your DS shortened a little bit. The Viper output shaft looks a little longer.
02SOMWS6
07-09-2005, 03:46 PM
G-force will sell you all the parts separte. They don't make a kit so you have to peice it together
Here (http://ddperformance.com/t56_partsupgrades.htm) are the basic things you can do to strengthen the T-56, otherwise you need to look into the g-force and liberty built tranny's. Or so I would think. I'm not a big tranny guy, I just know a little here and there. Thus us not being able to have a viper input.
G force has a tripple cone synco conversion,kinda spendy though.
zombiedude
08-22-2005, 02:49 PM
Ah thanks for the input. Looks like G-Force has what I'm looking for. Thanks all.:drive:
Armageddon
08-22-2005, 03:11 PM
GForce = $$$$$$$
zombiedude
08-23-2005, 06:39 PM
Is there cheaper place with the same quality?