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Old 09-14-2005, 09:45 AM
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My friend is interested in building a 1000RWHP Twin Turbo LS1 to put into his chevelle.

He is going to custom fab up the turbo setup, but he and I are interested in the supporting parts. I've told him that this goal is pretty unrealistic without a lot of money, but he seems pretty determined to do it.

Basic outline.

Iron block (what crank, pistons, rods?)
Heads (What would a good set of heads to support that much HP?)
ECM (Which standalone is best?)
T56 (I hear G-Force is good?)
Rear (Definately a 9inch)


These are just the basics, but any tips/suggestions would be great.
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Good luck getting a t-56 to hold that kind of power. It's gonna be one of the most expensive pieces on the list
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Originally Posted by SiL3NtXWS6
Good luck getting a t-56 to hold that kind of power. It's gonna be one of the most expensive pieces on the list

I've already said that as well to him, but he insists on having a T56. I don't think he plans to really race the car that much so I am guessing it will hold up.
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Originally Posted by fastenough
I've already said that as well to him, but he insists on having a T56. I don't think he plans to really race the car that much so I am guessing it will hold up.
If he wants a 1000hp and doesnt plan on racing the car why go with a stupid high dollar setup like that. He just needs a freaking 540 BBC, a blower, and good guts. Also, a T56 and 1000 hp not setup like a drag car is going to blow the tires of pretty much any meat you are going to fit on the back end.
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no reason to go with an iron block unless you are getting one just due to ease of availability, or cost.

why 1K hp anyway? I am building up my twin turbo setup to make maybe 650-700. cant use that much on the street. even at 10psi and maybe 550-575 it can get silly.

in any case: a forged shortblock is 3K+1 (if forged crank), heads 2K, intake 400+, trans 1500+, rear 1500+, dfi or fast type setup? 750+, 2 turbo's up to 1500 each?, innercooler(s) 500+? , injectors 450+ , clutch 500+ (realistically 1000) , dyno time for tuning 500+ , exhaust 250+ , fuel system 1000? , guages fittings and all the rest 500+

so what do we have here?

say 15K if he goes with new decent turbo's. and the other stuff I didn't think of will nickle and dime ya to death. plus I didn't figure in for materials for all the fabbing of the turbo setup. did he win the lottery?
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Well, will an alminium block hold 1k HP?
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Originally Posted by fastenough
Well, will an alminium block hold 1k HP?
Sure it will, but the bores might not stay round for very long.
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Originally Posted by Wet 1
Sure it will, but the bores might not stay round for very long.

So an iron block is definately needed.
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Thats the parts list, MONEY.

I'd ditch the t56 idea, go for more of richmond, or stronger tranny. the new tremec t600 is pretty nice too...

Driveline will take a bunch of money.

As for the setup, iron block would be my choice aswell, less movement when hot.

Look at mighty mouse's setup, hes up there pretty good.

do some searching in the F/I section too, harlan has done alot with his turbo setups, and has made the #s, with times to back it.

tuning, unless you do it yourself, *could* cost you out the ***. I highly doubt anyone will dune with dfi/bs3/fast/etc for cheap(like a regular h/c tune) on a TT setup, with a 1k rwhp goal.
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So a C5R block + heads would NOT be needed to drive something like this daily and rag on it just as you would any other car?
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no, because you would turn the boost down to a reasonable level.
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K&N filter and flowmaster, and he'll be knocking on 1000hp door! Nah, honestly your best bet is to do a search and ask people who have been there before.
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Call Kurt at W2W, who can tell you exactly what you need. Very few people actually know.
Originally Posted by fastenough
My friend is interested in building a 1000RWHP Twin Turbo LS1 to put into his chevelle.

He is going to custom fab up the turbo setup, but he and I are interested in the supporting parts. I've told him that this goal is pretty unrealistic without a lot of money, but he seems pretty determined to do it.

Basic outline.

Iron block (what crank, pistons, rods?)
Heads (What would a good set of heads to support that much HP?)
ECM (Which standalone is best?)
T56 (I hear G-Force is good?)
Rear (Definately a 9inch)


These are just the basics, but any tips/suggestions would be great.
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Fuel system will be way more than $1000, probably closer to 2000-2500 after you've ran all of your lines and the very expensive fittings.

We do an iron shortblock that is a proven 1000rwhp and it can be had for $5700-6100.

DFI, $1700-2500 depending on options and control.

Top end, at least $4000, maybe $5000 if you go with Jesels or the like for RR.

What are going to do for a manifold?

How about the oiling system, dry sump or good ole gerotor?

The Dailey setup is right around $3133.00, ask me how I know.

Intercooler options?

Custom fab of all your tubing for intercooler and exhaust manifolds unless the cast trucks will fit in the Chevelle, which is probably the case.

Either way, probably will be more than what he expects, I've learned from my projects to plan on 2500-5000 more than what I budget for.

And after all that, figuring out a way to keep the back window of that Chevelle from popping out.
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You need a water cooled checkbook and a good friend who owns both an LS1 shop and many 7 sec cars.

Your list will be very short

(also, a water cooled checkbook will make you very good friends with owners of said shops)
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I'm headed down that road myself. I'm opting for the ls2 block 4bore/4stroke 402. I'm going with manley billet rods w/arp 220,000 rod bolts, eagle forged crank, JE turbo dish pistons, arp head/main studs, cometic head gaskets, afr 225's, custom grind cam, ls2 intake/TB, 6.0L truck manifolds,meth injection. Have the turbonetics ceramic ball bearing thumper turbo (t91) sitting right here next to me and am having a built-on-car custom 1500horse air to water intercooler setup being built. Street car/T56.
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1000hp street is way to much.a well properly tune 600-700 rwhp car will blow the leaving doors out of u.1000hp is plain dumb for the street.maybe fun to know u have it but at the end properly to dangerous
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Originally Posted by Brandon
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Thats the parts list, MONEY.

I'd ditch the t56 idea, go for more of richmond, or stronger tranny. the new tremec t600 is pretty nice too...

Driveline will take a bunch of money.

As for the setup, iron block would be my choice aswell, less movement when hot.

Look at mighty mouse's setup, hes up there pretty good.

do some searching in the F/I section too, harlan has done alot with his turbo setups, and has made the #s, with times to back it.

tuning, unless you do it yourself, *could* cost you out the ***. I highly doubt anyone will dune with dfi/bs3/fast/etc for cheap(like a regular h/c tune) on a TT setup, with a 1k rwhp goal.
the tko 5 speed? the gforce would be more capable..
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I'd go iron block pro gram caps... ARP main and head studs Callies,HTC or Windberg crank....Carrilo(sp) rods JE slugs, ALL PRO heads..cough cough...PSI springs Excledyne retainers locks Excledyne inconel valves T&D or jessel rockers(not SS) Smith brothers or Manton push rods Hogan or wilson manifold... Daily dry sump... your gunna have oil lines running everywhere with TT this will only make it easer...only think I can say for trans is POWERGLIDE... 9 inch would prob fly long as it wasnt some OE peice big carrier bearings I left ou the fuel system....Im tired....
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Originally Posted by MiaSSmaro98
1000hp street is way to much.a well properly tune 600-700 rwhp car will blow the leaving doors out of u.1000hp is plain dumb for the street.maybe fun to know u have it but at the end properly to dangerous
I agree. If its a street car, anything more that 650 starts to walk the line of ebing useless/dangerous.



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