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Old 02-23-2006, 01:55 PM
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how do i remove the foam front bumper w/out taking the entire bumper off?
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why would you if you dont mind my asking?
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i was thinkin the same thing man cause it seems that its blocking off airflow....
i would like to know about this to
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Blocking off airflow to what though? It isn't like there is a straight shot to the airbox or throttle body from there...the air dam directs the greatest amount of air towards the intake.
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If you remove just the part of the foam that blocks
off the holes in the sheet metal, then some cool air
will be able to enter the nose space from which the
stock Z/28 draws its air. I used a steak knife, through
the "nostrils".

To make more of a "free-path cold air" setup though
you will also want block hot air from recirculating out
of the engine compartment. If you look at the FIPK
hardware you will get an idea about that kind of baffle.
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i dono i was just wondering hey man where did u get those wheels
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Originally Posted by who281
i dono i was just wondering hey man where did u get those wheels
They are pimp...
http://www.ccwheel.com/files/home.php
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lol that is fucked up my last names Grimes... i saw that and was like WTF haha
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Originally Posted by Grimes
You forgot to mention a pain in the *** to keep clean
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Originally Posted by who281
lol that is fucked up my last names Grimes... i saw that and was like WTF haha
Lol, haha. sorry to surprise you. Well to be more on topic...I don't know if you want to remove all the foam behind the fascia - it may take some of the energy out in a fender bender.
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Originally Posted by Grimes
They are expensive too. "Wheels starting at $2595 per set."
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If you want fresh air then the FRA mod is a better bet, as the Fbody is really a bottom feeder and has an air dam under the car which essentially forces air upto the radiator. The FRA mod removes the bottom of the air box and plastic beneith it allowing the air cold air into the airbox.

I though about the nose inlets also and was going to run a custom CAI using twin cone filters but if you look at the front where the washer bottle is, there really is very little room for air to flow or even to be ducted. If you don't mind using a hack saw and removing the washer bottle then there's plenty of potential.
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
If you want fresh air then the FRA mod is a better bet, as the Fbody is really a bottom feeder
kinda like a catfish huh no but on subject, i did the FRA mod, and it made no seat of the pants difference what so ever, but who knows. if your looking for free mods, trying porting your TB.

edit: as someone said, only cutting it, i don't think it's possible to take that off / out without removing the entire front bumper, but if you must have it off it's not TOO hard to remove that thing. but remember, it will make your front bumper alot more flexible just from reason to me, as it will have nothing to support against behind it, make sense? ( and fender benders, you run the risk of messing something metal up etc. $$$ )
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After I did the FRA mod, I cut a circle out of the foam where the nose holes were. I was thinking logically that the more air I am able to get to the box the more hp. I couldn't tell any differance whatsever. After the FRA mod, the little air you get from cutting the foam isnt going to make any noticable difference. In fact the foam actually directed air upward into the factory built hole in the bumper, that led to the front of the air box. If you cut the foam the air won't be directed to that area. In other words although you are putting a little more air underneath to the bottom of the air box by cutting the foam, you are taking the direction away from the front. I am actually thinking about running some type of tubing down to where i cut the foam and leading it up to my air box. I'll let you know how that goes when I get around to it. But to answer your question no it doesnt make any difference. Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by 99camarosupersport
kinda like a catfish huh


Originally Posted by 99camarosupersport
no but on subject, i did the FRA mod, and it made no seat of the pants difference what so ever, but who knows. if your looking for free mods, trying porting your TB.
I did the FRA and I wouldn't say I felt a seat of the pants feel, but it did have slightly better throttle response (and possibly pull) at high speed, 140mph+

But it's at speed where I'd expect to really see the gains. Logically what you want to do is seal the front of the box so that hot air from the engine bay can't get in then use some form of ducting to direct more air from out side the car to the underside of the airbox. Such as the FTRA (Fast Toys Ram Air).
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Are you talking about the bumper absorber? It's there for a reason. Sacrificing safety for a few extra horses isn't worth it imo
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Originally Posted by Frosty
Are you talking about the bumper absorber? It's there for a reason. Sacrificing safety for a few extra horses isn't worth it imo
While I agree, the foam will have very little impact on safety. It is mostly there for 5 mph and under fender benders. It will most likely provide very little protection in a high speed crash.
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It's there for more than that. It will still absorb and deflect energy at high impacts, even if it's just a little bit.

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Originally Posted by Frosty
It's there for more than that. It'll will still absorb and deflect energy at high impacts, even if it's just a little bit.
i bought and fixed a wrecked 99 camaro, it was pretty bad up front, but believe it or not the foam piece stayed in tact. so i agree, it's there for a reason and it's a little more durable than what you might expect.



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