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Old 05-13-2006, 01:55 PM
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I just spent $65 for 12 header bolts. That's more than $5 per bolt.

I got the Breslin Performance Products Split-Lock Header Bolts. What can I say, I'm into cool fasteners. No need for locktite with these babies.

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Yeah, I used the Breslin's also. They look real nice, and you'll never wonder if your bolts are backing out. They aren't necessary, but I'm glad I used them.
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And you should never use loctite on header bolts anyway, stock or not. Anti-seize is what you use.
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Originally Posted by Viper
And you should never use loctite on header bolts anyway, stock or not. Anti-seize is what you use.
They use a locking chemical on them from the factory IIRC. Not that that means it's the right thing to do though lol.

...I remember a good sized thread on this topic and I thought most of us were using the blue locktite. No?
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I use anti-seize. locktite if you never ever want to get them out again i guess
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throw some of that money my way
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I was talking about those with a buddy of mine and he thinks that they aren't very good for the threads. He's probably the most mechanically knowledgable person I've met, so I'm going to pass on those and probably get the ones with the triangular washers that rest on the tubes to prevent rotation.
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They do make header studs, don't they? Why not use those and serrated flange nuts?

BTW, I thought you'd found a 12-bolt axle for $65.
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Originally Posted by Ric
BTW, I thought you'd found a 12-bolt axle for $65.
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Originally Posted by Ric
They do make header studs, don't they? Why not use those and serrated flange nuts?

BTW, I thought you'd found a 12-bolt axle for $65.
Wishful thinking! ...I edited it so there's less confusion lol.

ARP makes studs but it's no fun getting the headers PAST them on the way up.
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Anti-sieze FTW. Loctite is no good for header bolts.

It's a helluva-lot easier to re-tighten, then re-tap.
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Yes, Antisieze is the proper product for header bolt threads.
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those bolts suck had them once you screw the allen in its a bitch to get it back out broke 3 allen wrenches and almost striped my head
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It won't happen to one of the holes on the front cylinders. I bet it'll happen on #8 or #7 damn near every time.
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Originally Posted by ShevrolayZ28
They use a locking chemical on them from the factory IIRC. Not that that means it's the right thing to do though lol.

...I remember a good sized thread on this topic and I thought most of us were using the blue locktite. No?
I dug around a bit and it looks like the majority of LS1Tech recommends antiseize. So please pardon my inaccurate statement lol.

However, the GM service manual does indeed recommend the use of locking compound on the header bolts. It's actually GM P/N 12345493 , which is equivalent to the permanant red Loctite product.

From the manual:
1. Apply a 5mm wide band of threadlock GM P/N 12345493 or equivalent to the threads of the exhaust manifold bolts.
As far as my experience goes, before I had locking bolts I used blue (non-permanant) Loctite. The bolts never backed out, nor were there any problems removing them later on, it just seems to take away the "hand-tight" part of un-threading the bolt.

In the end the most important thing is to avoid cross threading the bolts, which is easy to do if you aren't careful lol.

IMO if you elect to not use a locking compound or a locking fastener, it would be wise to check them for tightness from time to time. Because when a bolt(s) backs out, that is when you could do damage to the head.

FWIW, currently I have stock bolts with blue Loctite on the driver's side and Breslin locking bolts with antisieze on the passenger side. I'll leave it that way for a while and see what happens lol.

Let the bludgening resume.

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