01formulafromthebay

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I have a 2001 formula M6 with a lid, filter, fast 78mm TB, 25% underdrive pully, Borla y pipe, corsa exhaust, and a moser 12 bolt with 4.11 gears. My Buddy has a 2002 Camaro SS M6 with a lid, filter, shorty headers,and slp LM exhaust. We raced the other day from a 25mph roll three times and I could not pull on his SS he was next to me the whole time we were dead even all three times. I dont get it I sould be pullin on him what could be wrong.

ninetres

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MY OPINION: Your friend has headers and a better flowing exhaust. Also, your 12 bolt robs a few whp compared to your buddies 10 bolt. I assume he was an M6 too. Do you both have healthy clutches? Can you both shift equally fast?

Many variable here brotha!

01formulafromthebay

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Well my car has 56,000 miles on it and it does have the stock clutch I dont know how the original owner drove it. My buddy bought his SS new from the dealer back in 02 so he knows everything about his car. The clutch does feel like it silps some times.

DocEwww

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Makes sense to me...he has a 10 bolt and the headers to his advantage.

SScam68

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Gears aren't going to do much for you from a roll.

Try it from a dig

'Trust'

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You dont really have that many HP mods that help you out as much as his, your TB, pulley, and y pipe probably dont help you more than his full exhaust helps him, then you have a 12 bolt, so that'll suck up a good amount, leaving you guys, well even.

CamTom12

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check your throttle cable. Make sure when the pedal is 100% that your blade is coming all the way open (takes two people or one and a heavy brick to check, lol)

I had a cammed LS1 cutting 13.0 1/4's until I realized that I was only getting about 78% (from a scan) throttle because I messed up the cable adjustment when I had done some motor work

ZDOG

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wow, you guys are saying shorty headers are that help full?

tbick

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your gears should help out more than shorty headers. he might be getting 5-10 hp from those, but with your gearing you should be much quicker from a roll or a dig. actually a dig would be worse for you with those low gears you probably will have a worse launch than him.

01formulafromthebay

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[QUOTE=CamTom12]check your throttle cable. Make sure when the pedal is 100% that your blade is coming all the way open (takes two people or one and a heavy brick to check, lol)

This was one of the first things i checked and it does open all the way.

Well from a dig i can get about a car on him and hold him off the whole time.

Well i just ordered a new LS7 clutch and LS2 flywheel but that is heavier than stock how is the clutch going to affecect me more hp loss.

'Trust'

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Shorties arent as crappy as alot of people think, shorties, y pipe, catback will help quite a bit, and I'd say moreso than your gears help you.

JRracing

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A heavier clutch will exert more rolling mass when you drop the clutch. so equaling more weight on the launch.

lighter is not always better in some cases. Think about it for a second.