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05-19-2006, 08:17 AM
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Those running or who have knowledge on Cam Motion Cams please enter. Serioulsy considering one of their custom grinds for my D1SC F/I application and don't have a lot of knowledge regarding Cam Motion. Please let me know whether you are happy with their cams, do they seem to make excellent power and any other pros and cons that you are aware of.
If my memory serves me right, does CAM MOTION do all of the grinds for Allan Futral?
Thanks for your input and time!!
If my memory serves me right, does CAM MOTION do all of the grinds for Allan Futral?
Thanks for your input and time!!
05-19-2006, 08:24 AM
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Yep, Cammotion grinds Futral's cams. Also, Thunder Racing can order through them.
Also, regarding a supercharger cam, remember that less overlap doesn't make more power because it bleeds off less boost. In fact, I'd look into a cam that would make big power NA then add some duration to the exhaust. Overlap is power. Bleeding off boost means less boost--it doesn't mean less power.
Even if you pulley up for 15lbs but only see 12lbs because of the cam, you'll still make more power than stock cam or a low overlap cam with 15 pounds. Just means each pound of boost is making more HP and that's the ultimate goal, right?
Also, regarding a supercharger cam, remember that less overlap doesn't make more power because it bleeds off less boost. In fact, I'd look into a cam that would make big power NA then add some duration to the exhaust. Overlap is power. Bleeding off boost means less boost--it doesn't mean less power.
Even if you pulley up for 15lbs but only see 12lbs because of the cam, you'll still make more power than stock cam or a low overlap cam with 15 pounds. Just means each pound of boost is making more HP and that's the ultimate goal, right?
05-19-2006, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Yep, Cammotion grinds Futral's cams. Also, Thunder Racing can order through them.
Also, regarding a supercharger cam, remember that less overlap doesn't make more power because it bleeds off less boost. In fact, I'd look into a cam that would make big power NA then add some duration to the exhaust. Overlap is power. Bleeding off boost means less boost--it doesn't mean less power.
Even if you pulley up for 15lbs but only see 12lbs because of the cam, you'll still make more power than stock cam or a low overlap cam with 15 pounds. Just means each pound of boost is making more HP and that's the ultimate goal, right?
Also, regarding a supercharger cam, remember that less overlap doesn't make more power because it bleeds off less boost. In fact, I'd look into a cam that would make big power NA then add some duration to the exhaust. Overlap is power. Bleeding off boost means less boost--it doesn't mean less power.
Even if you pulley up for 15lbs but only see 12lbs because of the cam, you'll still make more power than stock cam or a low overlap cam with 15 pounds. Just means each pound of boost is making more HP and that's the ultimate goal, right?
You dont want to get carried away with too much overlap/exhaust duration as you might push the charge out past the exhaust valve and even towards the primary. Hard on exhaust valves and also primary tubes if you aren't careful
05-19-2006, 09:04 AM
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I am not sure if this is a standard cam motion cam thing or not but what is the most common base circle they use for their LS1 camshafts? I am trying to figure out which pushrods I need.
05-19-2006, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Yep, Cammotion grinds Futral's cams. Also, Thunder Racing can order through them.
Also, regarding a supercharger cam, remember that less overlap doesn't make more power because it bleeds off less boost. In fact, I'd look into a cam that would make big power NA then add some duration to the exhaust. Overlap is power. Bleeding off boost means less boost--it doesn't mean less power.
Even if you pulley up for 15lbs but only see 12lbs because of the cam, you'll still make more power than stock cam or a low overlap cam with 15 pounds. Just means each pound of boost is making more HP and that's the ultimate goal, right?
Also, regarding a supercharger cam, remember that less overlap doesn't make more power because it bleeds off less boost. In fact, I'd look into a cam that would make big power NA then add some duration to the exhaust. Overlap is power. Bleeding off boost means less boost--it doesn't mean less power.
Even if you pulley up for 15lbs but only see 12lbs because of the cam, you'll still make more power than stock cam or a low overlap cam with 15 pounds. Just means each pound of boost is making more HP and that's the ultimate goal, right?
05-19-2006, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Yep, Cammotion grinds Futral's cams. Also, Thunder Racing can order through them.
Also, regarding a supercharger cam, remember that less overlap doesn't make more power because it bleeds off less boost. In fact, I'd look into a cam that would make big power NA then add some duration to the exhaust. Overlap is power. Bleeding off boost means less boost--it doesn't mean less power.
Even if you pulley up for 15lbs but only see 12lbs because of the cam, you'll still make more power than stock cam or a low overlap cam with 15 pounds. Just means each pound of boost is making more HP and that's the ultimate goal, right?
Also, regarding a supercharger cam, remember that less overlap doesn't make more power because it bleeds off less boost. In fact, I'd look into a cam that would make big power NA then add some duration to the exhaust. Overlap is power. Bleeding off boost means less boost--it doesn't mean less power.
Even if you pulley up for 15lbs but only see 12lbs because of the cam, you'll still make more power than stock cam or a low overlap cam with 15 pounds. Just means each pound of boost is making more HP and that's the ultimate goal, right?
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05-20-2006, 12:34 AM
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To the Top gentleman. How about a custom cam motion blower grind with little larger specs of 230/238, .600 lift on a 114 or 115 lsa?
05-20-2006, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MTI 427 C5 Roadster
To the Top gentleman. How about a custom cam motion blower grind with little larger specs of 230/238, .600 lift on a 114 or 115 lsa?
You also need to quote the ICL so we can derive the valve events properly.
Personally where you have primarily a street car I would look to maximize the area under the curve from 2300-6500rpm with a shiftpoint of around 6300-6500rpm max. The motor will live a lot longer under boost with reasonable rpm (sub 6500rpm) and you'll still make sick power.
Just my 2 cents though.
05-20-2006, 10:02 AM
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CHRSIPY,
Point well taken and looks like i have to focus on a little bit a smaller f/i cam as i don't want to be shifting past 6500rpm!!
Point well taken and looks like i have to focus on a little bit a smaller f/i cam as i don't want to be shifting past 6500rpm!!
05-20-2006, 11:16 AM
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My first blower cam was a 230/236//115 from FMS (Cam Motion grind).
I made 735rwhp at 6600 with a TH400. I had belt slippage problems, but did run 10.3@136mph with slippage. That cam sounded very mild compared to my current cam, which is 236/246//114.
I have always shifted my car at 7000 rpms.
I made 735rwhp at 6600 with a TH400. I had belt slippage problems, but did run 10.3@136mph with slippage. That cam sounded very mild compared to my current cam, which is 236/246//114.
I have always shifted my car at 7000 rpms.
05-20-2006, 12:31 PM
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Your car is a race car PSJ and runs a stall converter. Cam selection for a TH400 car with converter is WAY different than a six speed Z06 street car on street tires
I would talk to Andy at A&A. He has put together a ton of 600-800RWHP 346ci blower cars. He would be able to recommend a cam for you. I am thinking something in the 220/224 range on 114LCA would work great for you depending on your exhaust config.
I would talk to Andy at A&A. He has put together a ton of 600-800RWHP 346ci blower cars. He would be able to recommend a cam for you. I am thinking something in the 220/224 range on 114LCA would work great for you depending on your exhaust config.
05-20-2006, 07:09 PM
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I had one of their smaller cams a few years ago. It didn't make great hp numbers but it made tons of torque. The car always performed well at the track.
05-20-2006, 07:58 PM
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Cam Motion grinds Futral cams and I am more than happy with my F14. I actually plan on going to them when I start to put my 71 back together.
