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Old 06-06-2006, 01:09 AM
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Default Thinkin' about some heads.. Need a lil' advice..

OK guys-

I am not trying to build a "race" car here.. I am just trying to build an.. extremely fun to drive.. daily driver..

Current mods are in the sig.. with an LS6 intake and TR224 cam planned with the "obligatory" cam install items.. Oil Pump, Double Roller Timing Chain, etc..

Well.. I started thinking.. "Why not just get some heads too?" So, this is the start to my research on heads..

I want something that will give respectable gains and be worth my money.. but I also want something that will not grenade my wallet, again, I'm not building an all out race car.. Just a quick street car..

I'd like to keep from having to throw a whole new rearend into the mix, but if I do, I guess I might be able to swing that..

Anyway.. You guys are the experts... advise me..

Thanks alot..

Jeff
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First off, you won't need a double roller timing chain with a cam that size. Mine is 240+ and I will just be using an LS2 chain.

Now, for the heads. Don't cheap out on them. They are one of the most important things you will do to your car-and down the road, you may regret not going with something with more potential. That being said, I would look into the AFR 205s or ETP 215s-around $2000-$2300.

If that is too steep, you can look into a set of Dart 205s for less than $1500. If that is still to steep you can look at TSP's budget LS6 heads. They will run you around $1000-$1300. You could also call Patriot and check into their 5.3 heads. You could probably get your compression up more and get some extra power. I would also keep an eye open in the classified section on here. There are tons of great deals on here all the time.

However, I think you would benefit more from an AFR, ETP or Dart with an intake runner less than a 225 OR a set of milled 5.3s. Good luck
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Yeh, looks like the Dart 205's seem to be popular and are on sale right now, wonder how long that will last..

As far as mods down the road, I guess it MIGHT happen, but I doubt it.. I've had the car since 2000 and it's never been on a track..
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Im double rolled in the high 240's duration.
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It all depends on your budget. Best bang for the buck are the sub 1k LS6 heads with stock valves. Followed by normal sponsors stage 2 or 2.5 heads, and then darts, and finally ETP or AFR heads. The top end stuff will coust you though.
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Now, for the heads. Don't cheap out on them. They are one of the most important things you will do to your car-and down the road, you may regret not going with something with more potential. That being said, I would look into the AFR 205s or ETP 215s-around $2000-$2300.
i agree, AFR 205s hands down
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We can do you a set of CNC ported 243 castings with oem (non-sodium) 2.00"/1.55" valves and LS6 springs for $875.00 shipped to you anywhere in the US. We can do this same setup with our Patriot Golds for only $1125.00 shipped. These heads flow very well at all lifts. If you have any questions, feel free to shoot us an email.
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DART 205's...awesome heads...bang for buck
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Here's a question for you guys though...

I may have a line on a set of used PP Stage 2 heads, from a local guy.. What I'm wondering is..

If I throw a TR224 Cam, Ls6 intake, ASP Pulley, PP Stage 2 heads - will my stock transmission be able to hold the power? Will the stock rearend be able to hold the power?

Now, keep in mind - this car will not be getting launched on the track from a dead stop.. 8 out of 10 of the "races" I get into are on the interstate from a 30-40mph roll.. usually..

I bet since I have owned the car, I have romped it from a "tached up" stand still maaaybe 20 times.. Maaaybe..

So, realistically.. Could my automatic tranny and stock rearend live through this, or is the power just going to blow the suckers out?
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I have seen stock motors blow factory 10 bolts and 4L60e's like nobody's business.

I have seen stock 10 bolts and stalled 4L60e's hold up to NA and FI 10 second passes.

There's really no way to tell. You can get some aftermarket axles, gears, and a rear end girdle for around a grand if you want to try to salvage the rear, but that will just delay the inevitable. I don't think there's much to do about the tranny though-someone else may chime in. It probably won't die on you to quick, but I'd get worried around 120k or so.
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You cant beat the CNC LS6 heads being offered by PRC or Patriot...You MIGHT gain 10hp with a set of AFRs or ETPs... I really havent seen it. And for 1000 bucks more, the choice becomes pretty clear.
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Personaly i woudl go with the dart 205's just because they are a new casting and flow great out of the box. They will give you more options down the road since they arn't ported at all yet, vs. a ported stock head.

But PRC and Patriot make a great head and are about 150 cheaper. Really its up to you anyone one of those heads are going to give you good results.

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