How hard does a high stall tc pull?
06-28-2006, 12:40 AM
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How hard does a high stall tc pull? How hard does say a 4000 rpm tc pull compared to the stock one and a 6spd? My bro just bought an 06 6spd gto and this thing is sick. It pulls so hard 
. Even with 4 people in the car it pulls harder than my z28 with just me in it even with the 3.73's. It seriously makes me want to just convert my car to a 6spd. 
. Even with 4 people in the car it pulls harder than my z28 with just me in it even with the 3.73's. It seriously makes me want to just convert my car to a 6spd. 
06-28-2006, 12:59 AM
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Get a 4000 stall and you will never want to drive a 6-speed or unstalled auto ever again. My 4400 stall launches my *** like a ******* sling shot. I haven't made it to the track yet but there is an on ramp I used to be able to kiss 75mph by the end of it, now I am getting in the low 90s. I know it's not a very good marker, but its all I got until I get to the track.
A lot of guys will tell you to stick with a 3500 for DD. Screw that. I have a STOCK cam in my car right now and am running bolt ons and a 4400 until I have the cash to get the cam in. 4400 may be to much for a stock cammed DD, but 4000 will rock. You'll see mid 12s no problem I would imagine.
A lot of guys will tell you to stick with a 3500 for DD. Screw that. I have a STOCK cam in my car right now and am running bolt ons and a 4400 until I have the cash to get the cam in. 4400 may be to much for a stock cammed DD, but 4000 will rock. You'll see mid 12s no problem I would imagine.
06-28-2006, 01:02 AM
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my car is auto, I have a fuddle 3400 stall with a MS3 cam, my car pulls like a SOB, just figure out what you want out of your car before you get a stall, I would get the same set-up I have you will not be dissappointed. I should have some vids after this weekend.
06-28-2006, 07:32 AM
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I've been thinking about getting a 4000 stall for a while now but since i have to buy this new rear end its gonna be a while till i get it. And i think when i do cam it im going to go with the ms4. I love the way the 6spd drives it just pulls so hard and chirps the tires. It's just a sick feeling. But i'm definetly going to give the auto one last chance with a stall once i get the money.
But i'm definetly going to give the auto one last chance with a stall once i get the money.
06-28-2006, 08:29 AM
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I just threw in a Yank 3500 and with my minor mods, it is absolutley amazing how much of a difference it makes. Every aspect of driving an A4 is different now and I love it. 6-speeds will always be the most fun to drive, but a stalled A4 is right behind it. Really wakes the car up and it pulls like crazy now at any speed in any gear. No dead spots and tons more acceleration everywhere. You'll love it and never look to 6-speeds again after running a big stall. 3500 is right for me, but I can see 4000+ easily now that I know what a 3500 does.
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06-28-2006, 04:04 PM
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I think the stall will give me the feeling i want . When it comes time the hard part is deciding if i want to go with a 4k or larger. Does it really hit the tires too hard for street tires? Eventually when i do get the money to do this i'm going to put 17x11 zr1's with 315 good year gs d3's on it do you think they should hold up? I couldn't imagine hitting the tires any harder then they get hit now with just the 3.73's. They spin with out even trying right now. But then again it could be the streets around here.
. When it comes time the hard part is deciding if i want to go with a 4k or larger. Does it really hit the tires too hard for street tires? Eventually when i do get the money to do this i'm going to put 17x11 zr1's with 315 good year gs d3's on it do you think they should hold up? I couldn't imagine hitting the tires any harder then they get hit now with just the 3.73's. They spin with out even trying right now. But then again it could be the streets around here.
06-28-2006, 04:21 PM
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Hey Im thinking about geting a 3500-3800 tc for my 01 z/28. Its definitley a DD that will see the track once a month maybe, do you think I should go bigger. How is it driving with a stall thats too high, do you get flung back when you barley hit the gas pedal? thanks
06-28-2006, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 98 Z28
My bro just bought an 06 6spd gto and this thing is sick. It pulls so hard . Even with 4 people in the car it pulls harder than my z28 with just me in it even with the 3.73's. It seriously makes me want to just convert my car to a 6spd.
. Even with 4 people in the car it pulls harder than my z28 with just me in it even with the 3.73's. It seriously makes me want to just convert my car to a 6spd. automatics for the track
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a high stalled auto will pull a stick car of equal power VERY hard from 0-65 (traction pending) or so, then as the stalling effect diminishes, you return to the "stock pull".
you are comparing your automatic ls1 to a 6 spd ls2, which you should not do. auto for auto that goat would yank you anyway, gears or not. if your main concern is street racing, i wouldn't advise getting a stall, because it will only make your car harder to launch. with a hook from a dig, a stalled auto will OWN a stick car of equal power and then some, hands down. just for comparison sake, look at my time in sig, then go over to the "drag race results" and read briancws6's post about his new best. look at our 60', et, and trap speed. all i'm going to say is if i had his trap i'd be in the 11 sec club..
in all honesty i could be quicker, as i spun pretty bad..illustrated by the 1.71 short time. i haven't raced on a prepped track yet and that's the best i could do thus far.
edit: i have a 4k stall and i think you should go AT LEAST 4k with your stall selection. but i will warn you, i can leave 10' of rubber - sideways - on my goodyear gsc tires from a 45 roll.
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06-28-2006, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by s346k
use this theory:
you are comparing your automatic ls1 to a 6 spd ls2, which you should not do. auto for auto that goat would yank you anyway, gears or not. if your main concern is street racing, i wouldn't advise getting a stall, because it will only make your car harder to launch. with a hook from a dig, a stalled auto will OWN a stick car of equal power and then some, hands down. just for comparison sake, look at my time in sig, then go over to the "drag race results" and read briancws6's post about his new best. look at our 60', et, and trap speed. all i'm going to say is if i had his trap i'd be in the 11 sec club..
edit: i have a 4k stall and i think you should go AT LEAST 4k with your stall selection. but i will warn you, i can leave 10' of rubber - sideways - on my goodyear gsc tires from a 45 roll. high stall speeds
you are comparing your automatic ls1 to a 6 spd ls2, which you should not do. auto for auto that goat would yank you anyway, gears or not. if your main concern is street racing, i wouldn't advise getting a stall, because it will only make your car harder to launch. with a hook from a dig, a stalled auto will OWN a stick car of equal power and then some, hands down. just for comparison sake, look at my time in sig, then go over to the "drag race results" and read briancws6's post about his new best. look at our 60', et, and trap speed. all i'm going to say is if i had his trap i'd be in the 11 sec club..
edit: i have a 4k stall and i think you should go AT LEAST 4k with your stall selection. but i will warn you, i can leave 10' of rubber - sideways - on my goodyear gsc tires from a 45 roll.
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. But who knows maybe the extra weight of the s60 will help smoke the tires when ever i decide to order it. But when i get a stall it will definetly be 4-4500.
06-28-2006, 07:58 PM
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The LS2 has more hp than the LS1. I imagine that, along with different gearing possibly, to be the reason the goat can pull on you.
Now that I am DD'ing a 4400 stall I will reccomend to anybody interested in a stall to get no less than a 3800. My 4400 was rough the first week but now I am used to it. A 4000 stall would totally manageable as a DD with a stock cam. I am running a stock cam now but that will change shortly.
98Z28- It will pull MUCH harder than your stock stall with 3.73s. Look at your RPM guage when you floor it. Imagine if instead of starting at 2000 or whatever and building up, it was at 4000 in a second. I don't spin with the 4400 and Mickey Thompson ET Streets if they are hot (they spin a little if they are still cool). However, they are a little pricey.
FireSilverLullaby: When driving a big stall you do not get knocked back in your seat by barely tapping the gas. It is very similar to driving a standard and holding the clutch in just slightly enough for it to rev a little but still get you going.
Now that I am DD'ing a 4400 stall I will reccomend to anybody interested in a stall to get no less than a 3800. My 4400 was rough the first week but now I am used to it. A 4000 stall would totally manageable as a DD with a stock cam. I am running a stock cam now but that will change shortly.
98Z28- It will pull MUCH harder than your stock stall with 3.73s. Look at your RPM guage when you floor it. Imagine if instead of starting at 2000 or whatever and building up, it was at 4000 in a second. I don't spin with the 4400 and Mickey Thompson ET Streets if they are hot (they spin a little if they are still cool). However, they are a little pricey.
FireSilverLullaby: When driving a big stall you do not get knocked back in your seat by barely tapping the gas. It is very similar to driving a standard and holding the clutch in just slightly enough for it to rev a little but still get you going.
06-28-2006, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SVT THIS
The LS2 has more hp than the LS1. I imagine that, along with different gearing possibly, to be the reason the goat can pull on you.
98Z28- It will pull MUCH harder than your stock stall with 3.73s. Look at your RPM guage when you floor it. Imagine if instead of starting at 2000 or whatever and building up, it was at 4000 in a second. I don't spin with the 4400 and Mickey Thompson ET Streets if they are hot (they spin a little if they are still cool). However, they are a little pricey.
98Z28- It will pull MUCH harder than your stock stall with 3.73s. Look at your RPM guage when you floor it. Imagine if instead of starting at 2000 or whatever and building up, it was at 4000 in a second. I don't spin with the 4400 and Mickey Thompson ET Streets if they are hot (they spin a little if they are still cool). However, they are a little pricey.
lol that would probably be way to much for a dd. I'd love to run some sort of drag radial all the time but do to the weather around here you never know when it's going to rain.
06-29-2006, 12:21 AM
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lol yeah i couldn't imagine driving and hitting the gas and going to 5100 rpms instantly thats to much.
If that were the case for me when i do get a tc it might just get switched to a 6spd. But if the tc does work than i'll definetly not worry about it.
I have a 4200 / 2.5 and did not feel any change on how fast the car is... well not as people say, or as i get what people write... however.. ET dropped .5 ...
06-29-2006, 12:41 AM
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You might just "switch to a 6-speed". I would just assume sell the car and buy a 6-speed.
Luis, what other mods did you have? I find it hard to believe it did not feel any quicker. It does not make your car faster, just insanely quicker. I am going to the track pretty soon but am hoping for low 12s with ET Streets and 300lb diet. Thats a good 1 second drop. I'll post up what I get.
Luis, what other mods did you have? I find it hard to believe it did not feel any quicker. It does not make your car faster, just insanely quicker. I am going to the track pretty soon but am hoping for low 12s with ET Streets and 300lb diet. Thats a good 1 second drop. I'll post up what I get.
06-29-2006, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SVT THIS
You might just "switch to a 6-speed". I would just assume sell the car and buy a 6-speed.
Luis, what other mods did you have? I find it hard to believe it did not feel any quicker. It does not make your car faster, just insanely quicker. I am going to the track pretty soon but am hoping for low 12s with ET Streets and 300lb diet. Thats a good 1 second drop. I'll post up what I get.
Luis, what other mods did you have? I find it hard to believe it did not feel any quicker. It does not make your car faster, just insanely quicker. I am going to the track pretty soon but am hoping for low 12s with ET Streets and 300lb diet. Thats a good 1 second drop. I'll post up what I get.
I think i was expecting a more violent launch, "if you expect too much and don't get that TOO MUCH, you can end dissapointed"... I sure was, then went to the track.. .5 less, acceptable for me...
The car is quick anyway, running 12.8s at 8000ft DA