sdbrown84

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Patriot and TSP both offer some killer deals on a set of ported LS6 heads.

Question is: Is there any major difference between the two?

Question is regarding the porting CNC methods and the hand polishing at the end. Just wanted to know if there was any major pros one CNC job has over the other.

Bo White

iTrader: (59)

Of what Ive seen the flow #s are real simular but the Patriot program has a smaller runner size.

JoeyGC5

iTrader: (24)

Both are good companies with good customer service (Owned heads from both). Like Bo said the patriot uses a slightly smaller runner.

GuitsBoy

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Both are great companies. Ive had gunnar go way out of his way for me in the past though. He really goes the extra mile no matter how small an order.

warp10

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I agree. I've been pestering him with questions on a small order and he is very helpfull.

sdbrown84

iTrader: (22)

Would you guys recommend Patriot from a customer service standpoint and/or performance standpoint?

I honestly didn't think there was much of a difference between the two heads, I just want to make sure that I am going to recieve a quality product from either vendor.

GuitsBoy

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Patriot for a customer service standpoint. From a performance standpoint, if they both flow comparibly, the one withteh smaller volume runner should produce slightly more low end torque with a similar top end.

sdbrown84

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So I am leaning towards patriot due to a good track record. Would you guys recommend upgrading to the new valves or keep the new stock ones in there.

GuitsBoy

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Bigger valves are only worth a handful of extra HP. Id say somewhere around 5 RWHP. Is it worth the extra expense? As it is, the stock valves are flowing 300 cfm...

sdbrown84

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Thanks for the info. That is a good point. I am really considering taking Patriot up on this deal today. I can get the pair CNC'd with new valves for around $900 shipped. I can't find a better deal...

Any other points you guys would like to mention>?

WizeAss

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SPAMMER!!! 1 POST HUH??? ROTFLMAO!

GuitsBoy

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And you base this off what exactly??? GMPP heads are not the ones to get, from a performance or a value standpoint.

sdbrown84

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I don't see why people just post like that. Makes the thread look like it was started in a ricer site.

Please post some specs if you are going to disagree to that degree. Honestly it looks like Patriot has the better standing right now. I am waiting on a PM from Gunnar.

black01_WS6

iTrader: (13)

Both are good set ups, I say get the one that you can get the better deal on. patriot is running a killer deal right now so I would say go with them. TSP seems to be making more power but you have to ask your self is it worth it to you for the extra money.

sdbrown84

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Any idea how much more power they are making? I couldn't see any comparision writeups on the subject.

TVWilkes

Do a search in the dyno section.Based on the quality of work,I would go with the TSP head.The competition valve job performed on the newen machine,can't be matched from Patriot.The heads from TSP will make flow better and make more power.The only thing Patriot has to offer is a better price.Price isn't the only factor you need to look at when purchasing a pair of heads.

OUTLAWZ RACING

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To be honest I ownd Afrs, and patriot and must say patriot hands down. My reason is I paid 2600 for some AFRs and the valve seats fell out and valve kiss a piston. I did not assembly the heads they where assembled. Also the bolt holes for the rockers had no thread in them none!!! I did not notice untill I put them on the block. In short my money was refunded with hell in high water. I even told them just send me a new set i will pay shipping, After they told me they would repair the ones I ship back. NO I paid for brand new heads not repaired ones. In short it was resolved real quick and friendly
BUt my patriots sit atop my 422 now and for the little time I drove the car I love them went right on no hiccups or nothing. All though I did not get a T shirt LOL!!

OUTLAWZ RACING

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Oh and the problem with the head was somthing in the program did a jump or somthing. FYI This was an single occurance AFRs Are good just pricey

sdbrown84

iTrader: (22)

Well I did some reading and most indicate that the TSP heads are making more power. I compared the flow dynamics from both companies:

TSP: http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=649&catid=20

Patriot: http://sites.reachtheworld.tv/waterN...05235&DID=1225

It seems as though the TSP outflows the Patriot in the stage 1 category. In fact the PRC heads seem to be a better match to the Patriot S3 heads. I may reconsider my purchase now.

Bill Bowling

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The Patriot heads above are Lq9 and the Texas are LS6 heads. Are they the same? Are the TSP heads priced for a pair? I think they are but I did not see it. The Patroits are on sale for about $1K complete until Monday.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/544423-new-243-castings-385-00-per-pair.html
Bill