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Old 04-10-2007, 12:26 AM
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i am building a 438 stroker (4.125 bore/4.100 stroke) using ported l92 heads/l76 intake. i want this thing to be a torque monster, lots of midrange. this is the cam i have speced for my self 235-246 .646 int .614 ext on a 110lsa +4, i using a lsk intake lobe and a xer exhaust lobe. i have used the lsk lobes in the past and they make good power and does not seem to eat up valve springs like everyone says. i want this thing to be down making power at 6000-6200 rpm, and shift at 6500 rpm, what do you guys think of the cam choice?
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Originally Posted by RyneZ06
i am building a 438 stroker (4.125 bore/4.100 stroke) using ported l92 heads/l76 intake. i want this thing to be a torque monster, lots of midrange. this is the cam i have speced for my self 235-246 .646 int .614 ext on a 110lsa +4, i using a lsk intake lobe and a xer exhaust lobe. i have used the lsk lobes in the past and they make good power and does not seem to eat up valve springs like everyone says. i want this thing to be down making power at 6000-6200 rpm, and shift at 6500 rpm, what do you guys think of the cam choice?
I'm still trying to digest the "i'm am building a 438 stroker" I'll let you know when I recover....
I am sure the two or three cam guys will tune here sooner or later.
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Originally Posted by sapper_daddy
I'm still trying to digest the "i'm am building a 438 stroker" I'll let you know when I recover....
I am sure the two or three cam guys will tune here sooner or later.
hmm...... i didnt say that, i never said that, you may need to take your meds. you will see that i did not edit that post
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Not sure why the big split on the L92 heads. They seem to be responding well to smaller splits. What's Charlie think?
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Originally Posted by RyneZ06
i am building a 438 stroker (4.125 bore/4.100 stroke) using ported l92 heads/l76 intake. i want this thing to be a torque monster, lots of midrange. this is the cam i have speced for my self 235-246 .646 int .614 ext on a 110lsa +4, i using a lsk intake lobe and a xer exhaust lobe. i have used the lsk lobes in the past and they make good power and does not seem to eat up valve springs like everyone says. i want this thing to be down making power at 6000-6200 rpm, and shift at 6500 rpm, what do you guys think of the cam choice?
240/244 .649/.612 113 LSA
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
Not sure why the big split on the L92 heads. They seem to be responding well to smaller splits. What's Charlie think?
yeah i am going to see him tomorrow, i was really on the fence about it, i know charlie has speced 10 degree splits for guys running ported l92's, this i a 11 degree, i think i will run it with 242 ext.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
240/244 .649/.612 113 LSA
with the cam you speced out my dynamic compression would be 7.8 with 11.1 static compression, that is pretty low. the dynamic with the cam i speced out is 8.61 using a a static compression of 11.1.
also what lobe is that on the intake it cant be a lsk because it jumps from a 239-243 on the lobe chart.

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I'd shorten the split some. Not to much though because the difference at .200 could end up reversed. I'd try to stay 4-6 split at .200". Your also going to peak earlier with a 110 LSA, so I wouldn't advance the cam 4 degrees. Using advance to create your DCR or peak rpm isn't exactly the right way to go about it. You'll have plenty of TQ with the stroker itself, so I would shoot for a +0 advance to keep overlap on the intake side of TDC. If a certain DCR number is a must, lower the intake duration 2 degree's. However, I think the motor will make plenty of TQ, so I wouldn't be so focused of a high DCR number.
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yeah i was kinda on the fence about advancing it, i will most likely run it straight up, i just want alot of midrange torque, to move my heavy pig around
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You're going to want an intake valve closing point of at least 50 degrees ABDC at .050" to make any kind of power. 52-54 degrees would probably be even better. Limiting overlap will keep your low and mid-range crisper. L92s have not done really well with lots of overlap.

243/248 .653/.615 114LSA +2 (LSK/XFI)
17.5 degrees of overlap
53.5 degree ABDC IVC
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damn i was hoping not to have to go that big, i mean i want this thing to be done a 6000-6200 rpm, i need to think some more about this
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With L92s and 240+ duration cams, 416s are done at 5800RPM.

Also remember the difference between a 438 and a 408 is even greater than the difference between a 383 and a 408.
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ok well i think i am going to run a 239-244 110+2 kind of a compromise. i can always change the camshaft later its just afternoon job.
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Nice motor! Good luck, let us know how it goes!
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
You're going to want an intake valve closing point of at least 50 degrees ABDC at .050" to make any kind of power. 52-54 degrees would probably be even better. Limiting overlap will keep your low and mid-range crisper. L92s have not done really well with lots of overlap.

243/248 .653/.615 114LSA +2 (LSK/XFI)
17.5 degrees of overlap
53.5 degree ABDC IVC
Agreed that is why the 240/244 I gave has the following events:
(BTW it is a 239 LSK lobe on intake but will show 240.x on grind) so to keep it simple in generic terms

240/244 113+0

7>IVO
53>IVC
55>EVO
9>EVC
113>ECL
16* overlap

I like grinding those +0 so they can be easily degreed and advanced via T-Chain at leasure



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