james562

iTrader: (35)

Anyone that is currently running the FMS F13 or that has run the F13 or a very similar grind(IE 230-230, 230-234, 228-232), Have you ever wanted more out of there car?

Ever wish you had gone bigger?

Ever wish you had gone smaller?

Have any before and after Track times or Dyno Numbers?

I really like the results, the history, Dyno #s, track times and everything else about the F13 but like alot of fellow LS1 owners, I am considering going larger... perhaps just a little larger(F14, TR TRAK/TSP TV3) or Possibly going ***** out G5X2,3&4 MS3&4 anywhere from a 23X to a 24X on a 110-112.

I've driven a 224 car before and it was cool, just not exactly scary or amazing...

How many of you have decided to step it up and go with a ballsout max effort Donkey dick cam over a slightley smaller proven performer like the F13 or TR230/227, MTI X1?

My setup is LTs With 3" duals dumped
Vig 3600(4000 RPM converter in reality)
bolt ons, lid, PP TB, ASP, Racetronix, LS6 intake(No 90/90 in the near future)...
3.23's willing to step up to 3.73's(No 4.10's in my A4)
16" ET Street Radials
3350-3425lbs with me in it
100 Wet on the street/150 at the Track

My only limitation is RPM, I have a 98 with the weaker rod bolts and don't wanna take it over 6600-6800. I'd prefer to shift it around 6500-6650(maybe 6800 but I believe thats gonna be pushing it on stock rod bolts)

I have an Awesome tunner available but am constantly battleing to play it safe or go Big....

Gun5

iTrader: (37)

what year did they change rod bolts again 00?

everyone wants more out of the car but from what iv seen F13 cam only cars are high 11's and h/c ones mid 11's

james562

iTrader: (35)

I believe it was the early 2000...

BTW some food for thought....
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...=756002&page=2
Look specificly at post #26 from Ron@Vengence where Ron compares the Vindicator to a smaller 226-228 cam that he makes...

Although the Vindicator peaks much higher it makes insane numbers all across the graph...

Hmm F13 vs Vindicator???

Damian

iTrader: (89)

I swapped out two cams against my old FM13, and lost power on BOTH of the bigger cams..

Went back to the FM13 before I wound up selling the car.

Moral of the story. No it's not worth it to switch unless you're going with more cubes.

james562

iTrader: (35)

What other cams did you try?
It seems the F13 is designed for great results with stock cubes

ssfast99

iTrader: (3)

nah, i had a 224 but changed to a t-rex before they had the trak cam. i love it but it takes a lot of tuning for the street. i have a 99 with the crappy rod bolts and have 600 rwhp with the nitrous and no problems spinning to 7000 rpm. go big! just my .02

james562

iTrader: (35)

I should go check yours out Victorvile isn't too far from LA...
I like the results that the Vindidcator was getting as well

99mongooSS

iTrader: (4)

I outran a car with the f13 cam. I run the MS4, he went 11.77, and I spun past the sixty foot and went 11.57 @130

james562

iTrader: (35)

11.57@130
Looks like you were spraying agianst a cam only F13
Of course you would smoke em...

QSZ

i agree, no way you are running 130 in a heads/cam car without spray.

Damian

iTrader: (89)

Yea, your mph is a tad off buddy. Also, saying you outran another car with an FM13 cam says nothing about the cam. There's about 20 other factors that come into play for winning a race, other than the cam you use.

streetlegalls1

iTrader: (15)

I have the F13,built 347,heads/cam.Stay with the F13 and spend the $ towards a set of heads.It just seems u have to beat the hell out of stock set up to reach da good #'s with those big cams,just my .02

NufNuffZ28

iTrader: (13)

I ran a 11.71@118 with a cam only 6 speed car(with a 12 bolt)

james562

iTrader: (35)

What gears? 4.10's? 60"? LS6 intake I assume? Thats pretty stout cam only for a M6... Did you ever dyno that setup?

cals400ex

iTrader: (27)

what kind grill is that on your car?

james562

iTrader: (35)

Here is one argument that makes me want to go towards a G5X3 or Vindicator

Post#265 John B
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...396087&page=14

Basicly the arguement is if a well speced out Big Stick with excellent VEs is capable of making more power all across the board why not take the cam that makes more power all across the board...

99mongooSS

iTrader: (4)

yeah and i was spinning like hell in order to run that fast my mph was up there if i would have hooked i could have been in the mid 10's I wasnt spraying. I had a radical tune on head and cam set up. Also I dont know exactly how far I spun it was the second time to the track on new setup. I was on nittos, I spun like hell. There where guys with less motor that where hooking and beating me, Im just saying...hook to hook I would say go bigger with heads because he ill run faster.

james562

iTrader: (35)

What have you run on motor and what was the setup? Stock heads? gears? What are you shifting at? Have you Dyno'd it?

130 MPH is definately moving.. The MS4 is definately no slouch

AINT SKEERED

iTrader: (2)

If you have the f13 already and are not worried about dyno numbers as much as track numbers then stay with it. If you dont have it yet then go through cam motions and get one.

It makes good avg numbers with a strong area under the curve. I have a heavy car and it works good with my combo to haul ***.

ssfast99

iTrader: (3)

to be honest here, i dont think any one cam is best. I would say if you can find a couple of people who have different cams and go for a ride to see how they run, you could make a decision. i just went on a lim and got the t-rex, but who knows, i might of went with something else if i got one now. all i can say for my personnal experience is that my 80000 mile 99 SS with god knows what headers (came with the car), lifters, springs, stock TB, LS6 intake, and t-rex, and the car was an animal once i tuned it. the best i could trap in palmdale was 118mph. heads helped later, but the cam is fun. just make sure you pick what you want because it is your car and you have to drive it. i can say with a race clutch, a t-rex suck ***** in traffic.