AIS

Alcohol Injection Systems, LLC would like to personally address and answer any questions members may have about the use and effects of water alcohol methanol injection with forced induction applications as well as naturally aspirated and nitrous applications.

Let us know what your questions are so we can help better inform everyone about water methanol injection.

Have a question and want to speak to someone directly about water alcohol/methanol injection. Give us a call directly at 1.801.447.2559 or email us directly at info@alcoholinjectionsystems.com

www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com

massls1guy

iTrader: (9)

This post might do better in the Forced Induction section:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction-9/

The Alchemist

iTrader: (19)

Well, you posted that it has benefits in na applications, can you give details?

AIS

Hi The Alchemist,

For naturally aspirated applications, water methanol injection offers the benefit of increases in air density (lowering engine air charge temperatures) and suppressing detonation through its substantial octane enhancement offered by both the high octane alcohol portion and also the water as the water portion turns to a steam slowing down and stabilizing the combustion process in turn effectively raising the fuels octane and ability to resist self ignition. Users are now able to run more aggressive (optimal) timing curves and the ability to run lower grade gasoline’s at higher levels of horsepower when normally not possible before without the water methanol injection.

Users can expect to see the water methanol injection to lower air charge temps 35-45 degree's. While this isn't as dramatic as our forced induction applications. Its like the difference of driving your car during hot summer days vs the cooler summer mornings. No more power fade as you would normally have.

Hope this answers your questions. Let me know if you have any other questions or how I can help.

The Alchemist

iTrader: (19)

Makes sense, and since I work in a lab, I have access to HPLC grade MeOH. I wonder what kinds of gains you could see on a 11.2:1 na motor, 5-10hp or are we talking more along the lines of 15-20 or more?

Braunbeck

iTrader: (4)

I would assume you have a small enough nozzle to assist the NA guys with using the system. I know that other brands are geared towards the FI guys.

As for the meth injections I think I'd be more interested in just the water side of it, for cooling and combustion volume. Would your system offer a small enough nozzle to accomidate that function or would it require the same volume for water as water/meth?

Good right up, I know tons of SRT Neon guys that use W/I and love it. Being in AZ with hot temps is not that forgiving during the summer. Also if you have not you may want to surf the web for there forums and see if you can add some competition for Devil's Own and Cooling Mist since they are the major players for them. I have a few friends that would love to test it out for you if the price was right.

AIS

It depends on the full details of the application which it's being used on and it's base horsepower. Tuned, we will see gains of 15 horsepower on 400 horsepower LS1 and LS2's. Additionally, users in hotter regions will benefit more then those in very cold regions. Realize, this is mainly a tool for NA guys to run engines on pump gas when they normally could not without the onset of detonation with their application.

b0pric01

iTrader: (5)

this is all new to me so I just need a basic overview of how this works. a link to an information site would be sufficient. thanks

AIS

Let me know if you have any other questions or how I can help.

Rodney

AIS

If your looking for a great deal on a water methanol injection systems be sure to check out our group purchase listed here on the forum. Only good till the end of the month.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...light=methanol

Hilton

iTrader: (36)

Want to test out a system on my Volvo? Probably be one of the first!

AIS

It wouldn't be the first! We've had people from all around the world order these for various types of vehicles. Some we've never knew existed.

john563

iTrader: (17)

In an N/A Application how is this activated? With a button or does it come only at w.o.t like nitrous. Can you just spray on a hot day for more Hp or does it come on only at W.O.T. Sorry for all the dumb questions its just that I know nothing about water injection or meth in an N/A application. I'm H/C/I and just put in a bigger cam for that extra hp and thought what can I do for that little extra,so I'd like to know more about water injection in an N/A application. How its used,and when it can be activated. with nitrous its at w.o.t that you get that extra what about adding some hp before your actually at w.o.t with this. again sorry if this sound dumb just trying to get a better understanding. What power gains would I see if I'm at 440rwhp.

Gary98Z

iTrader: (9)

How well does the tank fit in the fbod hatch area?

AIS

We have two different types of systems. Stage 1 and Stage 2. The Stage one system can be set so that when you activate your nitrous at the same time the water methanol injection is activated. With our Stage 2 systems, these work based off of your mass air output signal. Users can select start and full points through the controller giving them a progressive increase in fluid flow as the mass air output signal rises. Additionally, these system can also be ran based off of your TPS sensor or for that matter any 0-5 volt senor on your engine.

When working with nitrous applications the type of power gains are largley determined by the base horsepower of the engine, how big of a shot the users is running and tuning. By adding a water methanol injection system to a nitorus application, users can nor run considerably less or no added ignition retard. it is the advancement in timing which give us the horsepower increase.

AIS

It fits perfectly fine. It's your choice where exactly you want to position it.

AIS

Orders are shipping! See details below.

Were about ready to wrap up this GP tomorrow. Before ending this GP we would like everyone to get a chance to hear about it as the discounts being offered are quite substantial for members involved. Because we have listed this GP on other forums we have already meet our required number of 6 orders on other forums. Even though we have only received 3 orders from "LS1Tech Forum" we want to include these members orders into the GP therefor we are going to combine all the forum efforts and begin processing and shipping these orders.

One common problem we run into is members finding the GP a week or month later and still wanting us to offer them the same price. Unfortunately, we will not be able to offer these same prices after the group purchase has ended. Therefor, we want everyone to get the opportunity hear about it and to join in now while the group purchase discounts still apply.

Let us know if you have any questions or if you need help choosing the right system for your application.

2002_Z28_Six_Speed

iTrader: (19)

WELCOME AIS!

I have seen gains on NA vehicles... provided that they weren't sandbagging me.

AIS

Thank you. There are gains and benefits on NA applications but unfortunately there nothing like we have on the forced induction applications. Wouldn't that be nice. NA nitrous applications are making good gains depending on how bif of a shot their running.

AIS

Have questions about using water methanol injection with your forced induction, NA or nitrous oxide application. Post your questions here or contact us directly at 1.801.447.2559 if you would like to speak with a specialist.