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Old 07-28-2008, 06:03 PM
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what do you guys think about a ms3 for a DD I have a friend that is trying to get rid his he is trying to get smog legal and I can get it from him for pretty cheap I want to put it in my z but I'm scared it will torch my gas milege or kill me in stop and go traffic
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I have it in my T/A and its not a bad daily driver. You lose a bit on the low end if your still running the factory gears in the rear. I raced an stock SS a while back from a first gear roll, and he stayed with me until i hit 3rd. After that i started to run away real quick, but with some 4.10s the race would have been over from the get go. I put down 386/367 to the wheels through the factory LS1 intake and with open headers. A tune is crucial with that cam, after the install the car wanted to die a few times. Oh and im an M6 what transmission you running?
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it all really depends on the tune, gears will make quite a difference but as long a u have a good tune then u shouldnt have any big issues.....a little surging down low but nothing major
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Its all in the tune. My buddy DD's his MS3 car in the summer months. The car drives nice and has very little surging. I believe he gets around 14 MPG with a 4000 stall and 100% city driving also.
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I love mine.
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I get around 17mpg in my ms3 car. Depending on tuning/clutch/gears, and what you're willing to deal with is what will decide if it's a good daily driver cam.
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I am talking to my buddy that has it he says he gets about 15 mpg

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TSP XS Series Camshaft:
233/239, .595"/.603" Camshaft With Your Choice of Lobe Seperation.

This camshaft features Comp Cams XER lobes! The XER lobes have been proven to make big horsepower & torque thanks to their aggressive ramp rates & healthy lift.

1900-6500 RPM Power Band; This is an excellent performance camshaft with a smooth idle! Custom tuning for automatic cars required

This camshaft typically gains approximately 50rwhp!


I think I might be better off just getting this I want a good bit of power but still cool to drive on a daily
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i have the MS3 (look in sig for mods) car sounds absolutely basass. Drivability is just fine, i have 4.10's now...had 3.42...would would get gears for the car if you haven't, with or without a cam lol. It only surges under 2 k if your just coasting, but when u step on the gas at all, it runs stock-like, even with 3.42's it wasn't bad. You will loose low end, but past 2 grand with the 4.10's that thing flies, i recommend cam.
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Any reputable tuner should be able to make it drive nice. Like everyone else said, gears help the driveability a lot.
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I daily drove my TA with the MS3 and PRC heads, loved every minute of it
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how you guys think I 233/239 cam I posted will run with the stock gears I'm not trying to change my gears.
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Originally Posted by ChevyRyda99LS1
how you guys think I 233/239 cam I posted will run with the stock gears I'm not trying to change my gears.
its all in the tune, it will surge a lil bit down low, but unless u drive around at 1500 rpms u should be fine!
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I seen a video on youtube with a 01 trans am on youtube with that cam that thing idled smooth and it sounded good though still sounded tough but didnt not buck and jerk
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14-15 mpg in the city is what i get now, with only a 2800 stall my car sucks . . .maybe once i do my cam ill see more mpg haha
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mti clear lid,k+n filter, slp maf,smooth bellows, pacesetter coated lt's, tsp catted "y",hooker cat back, 2800 yank,[313rwhp/317rwtq
your only seeing 313 with those mods, is it tuned?
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really only 313 I dont belive that no way something must be wrong
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Originally Posted by 5.slow99
your only seeing 313 with those mods, is it tuned?
It's a stalled auto that doesn't even have full bolt ons and has a catted y. Those numbers aren't that bad at all.

OP: you can make do with stock gears. I do. But they REALLY compliment the cam. After the cam, you should really start looking into doing gears.
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Originally Posted by ChevyRyda99LS1
really only 313 I dont belive that no way something must be wrong
we did a baseline dyno run before we installed my cam so we could compare numbers, on my m6 with full bolt ons and no tune, i only made 301......so if he doesnt have a tune then its definitely beleiveable!
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I have a torquer v3 in my camaro with 373 gears and a 3800 converter and its not to bad. I wouldn't hesitate to drive it any where. It does have a little surge down low but its not bad at all. The gas mileage isn't the greatest (about 15 mpg) but if thats what your really worried about get a Honda.
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Originally Posted by bigfatls6
I have a torquer v3 in my camaro with 373 gears and a 3800 converter and its not to bad. I wouldn't hesitate to drive it any where. It does have a little surge down low but its not bad at all. The gas mileage isn't the greatest (about 15 mpg) but if thats what your really worried about get a Honda.
shoot my gas mileage got better with my cam! and i wouldnt see why anyone would hesitate to drive their cammed ls1?



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