Next level

iTrader: (5)

Im curious on to get more air into my car. I have a 396 setup and already have the morso cold air setup but i really like the ram-air setup on the 97 WS6. Well, i found a junk one and thinking about taking the ram air setup. Does it add anything ?

BTW i have the warbird hood with functional vents.

96lt1m6

iTrader: (31)

you have just entered the most confrentational debate on all web boards! LOL
i went from the CAI to the Ls1 style lid and went 1.5mph faster in the 1/4 and 2 tenths..... i am quite certain this is going to stir up more flack by those that have not done the mod but the fastest path to a destination is STRAIGHT/FOWARD

Next level

iTrader: (5)

http://www.carolinaclassictrucks.com...tore_Code=CCTI

i am not talking about the LS1 conversion.

RamAir95TA

iTrader: (2)

It's generally considered that R/A and CAI provide comparable gains.

fergymoto

iTrader: (129)

Not saying a CAI isn't good enough for most setups but IMO a ram air setup with a good filter is going to be more efficient and have the potential to move more air.

tspence45

iTrader: (30)

x2. There's no bends in the intake with the ram air setup, so less chance of airflow being disrupted also. I felt a little difference going from a Moroso CAI to an LS1 lid setup, and I'm almost positive a Ram Air setup would flow even better than an LS1 air lid.

Next level

iTrader: (5)

and thats what im trying to do. Im thinking that GM made the LS1 with ram-air for a reason. I am at a point where i need to start collecting all the little mods because im almost out of ideas without putting an adder on it, which i dont want to do.

SoxXpupPeT

iTrader: (34)

i had seen a picture somewhere amongst the internet that some guy (with no AC) had piped his intake straight and had cut a hole in his radiator support and had put a flat style filter (new vette's) in front of his radiator. it looks like a really good spot. you could just see the filter behind the hood mechanism. you could always try to make something custom like that. i would if i didnt have my K&N CAI. either which way anythings better then stock :p

hawk584

iTrader: (1)

ram air what? all i can see is your avatar...

sorry, back on topic now...

SoxXpupPeT

iTrader: (34)

i second that !

Puck

iTrader: (17)

There is a million page long thread on this already. The gains won't show on a dyno since a good CAI can already outflow almost all smallblocks, but there is a supposed tenth or so of track benefit from the ram air aspect...

IMO that is margin of error, and for what its worth my bikes ram air - on a much smaller, less air hungry engine - is factory rated for an increase of 1hp at 100mph and 10hp at 160mph.

I have not done any personal tests with a stroker, but on my stock shortblock build when I uncorked my K&N cai from my TB on back to back dyno runs I only gained 2rwhp. I blame all 2 of them on the filter - the K&N cai is already zero restriction for a 350/355 smallblock.

I'll try to leave it at that and let everyone draw their own conclusions. Either way it is not a big difference, and this thread is destined to die a fiery death anyway.

If you really insist on reading an 8 page pissing match, search the "New LS1 Owners" forum for ram air threads.

sdm1234

iTrader: (8)

I remember reading somewhere on the internet about this private company doing an EXTREMELY intensive test on a Kawasaki sportbike's ram-air system (very similar to our's). They went into great detail about air pressure in relation to engine vaccuum and intake bore diameter and what-not. Anyway, the result was: at speeds around 160mph, there was an increase of approx. 5hp. On our cars, the resulting horsepower will obviously be different, but the speeds needed to acquire those results are roughly the same.

sdm1234notes: Both CIA and R/A show results over stock applications, but R/A shows no significant gains compared to CIA. If anything, most people are probably experiencing slight intake air charge temperature drops with R/A, resulting in minimal gains.

HoLLo

iTrader: (17)

I bought my car with a Ram Air hood, but it had an SLP cold air intake. I swapped over to a full WS6 Ram Air, I want to say I actually felt a TINY bit more that wasn't placebo honestly, but nothing that is going to win a race where you normally wouldn't have. I used a cheapo paper filter too, I need to throw a K&N on it.

Ram Air is definitely more efficient though because the air will always be cooler too. Might not make you much more powerful, but definitely more

Paul Bell

iTrader: (9)

Wasn't it determined that in warm weather, the air going through the ram air hood would get slightly heated by the hood, heated by the sunshine?

I'd run the cold air intake AND have the ram air hood without the ducting just to whoosh a little more air through the enigne compartmant.

OVA1

iTrader: (12)

What he said...


But ram air induces higher pressure and that is always going to equate to higher flow and that means more power. The issue is how much at every point from a given R/A design...

Puck

iTrader: (17)

We were thinking on the same track .

I run a K&N cai with a 3" cowl hood for engine cooling and the splashguard cut out to expose the filter and my IATs are almost ambient.

Note that the IAT sensor is in the K&N CAI's provision, not the elbow, if anyone wants to compare.

RamAir95TA

iTrader: (2)

An engine is only going to breathe as much air as it needs - unless you compress the air with an impeller. There comes a point where you can only shove so much into an engine, whether it be with a CAI or an open carb. Unless someone does some REAL research and just isn't speculative about other people's claims, we are all in the same boat.

Me included.

hawk584

iTrader: (1)

https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...l-ram-air.html

Smokeshow_2006

iTrader: (3)

How bout on a F/I car? same arguments still hold valid?

RamAir95TA

iTrader: (2)

Forced induction or fuel injected?