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Old 10-08-2013, 11:29 AM
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Default ARP flywheel bolts a good idea?

This is probably a dumb question but I'm going to ask. Right now I've got my transmission out replacing the clutch with a 11" monster ceramic. I leave with this thing at 6500 rpm, cuts 1.51s on a 27" QTP. I've been running the stock flywheel/pressure plate bolts fine but I'm starting to wonder if possibly going ARP would be a good decision. I'd just hate to sheer bolts at almost 7k and something come through the floor and while its out it wouldn't be hard to stick them in there but since I all ready have the clutch if its not a problem I'm going to put the car back together. What do you think?
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Cant tell you from T56 experience but I did it with my 2JZ build up and why not, they arent that expensive anyway. A cheap way to have a peace of mind in my opinion. Which Stage/Level Monster did you go with btw?
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I wouldn't mind putting them in it I just hate to wait for them to come in. It wasn't listed as a stage. It was the 11" Monster Ceramic Race clutch. Its suppose to be good to 850rwhp. http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...y-850rwhp-tq-/
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We've had stock GM bolts hold 1100rwtq with that clutch no problems, I've cut a 1.49 60' on them in my personal car.I believe 99bluefbody used stock GM flywheel bolts when he went 9.3s and cut 1.3s with that clutch, but if you decide to go ARP be sure and loctite them. Thanks again for choosing a Monster!

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its cheap insurance...one less thing you need to worry about.

little bit of patience now is cheaper than an input shaft, clutch assembly, bell housing, God knows what else later...

but you already know this...or you would have never asked the question in the first place.
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I think I paid $40 for them with the Tick/Monster kit? Why Not! lol
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I would be concerned about using them with the required assembly lube around a really expensive friction material. Unless you are over 1000hp I don't see any reason to.
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Never had a problem with ARP.
If anything, do an analysis of the old bolts to see if your concerns were warranted.
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The GM bolts are designed to stretch. TTY. When I pulled the old ones out they looked great aside from the stretching they did and were suppose to do. ARP is a great product I just don't want to use any oil products on the clutch side of the flywheel.

Granted I don't have 1000hp.
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Originally Posted by Exidous
The GM bolts are designed to stretch. TTY. When I pulled the old ones out they looked great aside from the stretching they did and were suppose to do. ARP is a great product I just don't want to use any oil products on the clutch side of the flywheel.

Granted I don't have 1000hp.
You are WRONG!! The GM flywheel and pressure plate bolts are not TTY and are reusable. And are just fine in most applications, ARP bolts are cheap insurance, for your peace of mind.
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Originally Posted by Exidous
I would be concerned about using them with the required assembly lube around a really expensive friction material. Unless you are over 1000hp I don't see any reason to.
You don't slop the lube on them...it only goes under the head and Lock-Tite on the threads. Once they are torqued, wipe the excess lube away. There is no concern to be concerned about.

BTW OP, I have a set for sale.
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Originally Posted by 2muchboostNY
^^^exactly. I did this with my 4-cylinder build and then wiped the excess lube off using brake cleaner to make sure everything was off. I was under the impression that OEM was not TTY which would mean they are capable (in theory) of being reused. ARP are TTY which would mean that they are NOT recommended for re-use as torquing them down to spec would change the physical dimensions/elasticity of the bolt itself....again in theory.
The LS ARP bolts are not TTY. I don't even think any ARP bolt made is TTY. Their hardware is made of chrome moly and typically torqued to 75% of max yield. The are re-useable.
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Originally Posted by Exidous
The GM bolts are designed to stretch. TTY. When I pulled the old ones out they looked great aside from the stretching they did and were suppose to do. ARP is a great product I just don't want to use any oil products on the clutch side of the flywheel.

Granted I don't have 1000hp.
Install instructions suggesting use of a torque angle wrench doesn't indicate TTY.

What measurements did you have, before and after?
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^^^ You sure? I will check and see if I can find the info that stated otherwise. But you may be right and I may be wrong...if I am I will donkey punch myself in the enchilada for speaking without having proper knowledge.
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Donkey Punch here I come....my friend just confirmed I had the entire thing backwards. I will delete my previous post and bow in shame.



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