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Old 07-07-2005, 07:29 PM
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Its been bled fine....but for some odd reason the clutch engages inches off the floor. bleeding it did nothing. Had a stg3 before this one and it was perfect.
this one has been this way since i installed it. Broke in fine.


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Old 07-07-2005, 09:40 PM
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Sounds like you need an adjustable master to adjust the engage point.
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you have to have a adjustable master for those clutches 99% of the time, they move up as they break in and then you have to adjust it to where you want it.
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Originally Posted by SMOKIN01TA
you have to have a adjustable master for those clutches 99% of the time, they move up as they break in and then you have to adjust it to where you want it.
well damn. that blows.
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Originally Posted by SMOKIN01TA
you have to have a adjustable master for those clutches 99% of the time, they move up as they break in and then you have to adjust it to where you want it.
although i have a lil over 2k on it and it hasnt moved at all......
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Originally Posted by BLKWS6
although i have a lil over 2k on it and it hasnt moved at all......
it wont move much
you still need that adjustable master tho
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did you put in the shim?
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Originally Posted by gotzaGTO
did you put in the shim?
no...i didnt and have never used the shim. Kinda wondered about it but my stg3 worked fine without it.
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Originally Posted by BLKWS6
no...i didnt and have never used the shim. Kinda wondered about it but my stg3 worked fine without it.
hmmm.. well, the shim would raise the enguagment point, but if it didn't do this since day 1 of the install, I would gander to say that there is a larger problem then just the shim. I wish I could help you more, but give it a try (putting the shim in) and see if it feels better for you.
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get you adjustable master cylinder from futural motorsports, I am going to order mine this week, but from what other members and threads, Allan does a hell of a job!!! I'll keep u posted about mine. Because my Ram powergrip takes only minimal pressure to slap it in gear, I dont like that at all!!!
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I suggest the shim also. I have the McLeod adjustable MC and just installed a Spec V WITH the .100 shim. Now my pedal release very high and the clutch slips a little when the pedal is all the way out. To me this indicates that when the pedal is all the way out the TO bearing is hitting the slave body(bottoming out), which in turn puts a slight amount of pressure on the PP fingers which is not allowing the clutch to clamp completey, resulting in some slippage.
SOO...out comes the freakin trans again to remove the shim.

My point being, either go shimless and use an adjustable MC or use stock MC and shim it. Since you already have the shim you might can save yourself a few hundred bucks.
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Well you say it was fine with your SPEC stage 3? Well i have the SPEC stage 3 and mine engages at about 4" from the floor. Was worse when it was first installed, was impossible to drive. Now after learning this clutch i can drive it, but still impossible to master. What a pain in the f'en a$$ driving this thing!!! I think im going to go with the McLeod adj. master cylinder as well. Glad to hear someone else has this same problem as me with the damn SPEC's.
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Installing the shim will raise the engagement point.We have probly done 30 SPEC clutch installs with the shims and all have worked out great.Also ,you do not need an adjustable master-we never use them on SPECS.
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Does the shim always come with the clutch?
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Installing the shim will raise the engagement point.We have probly done 30 SPEC clutch installs with the shims and all have worked out great.Also ,you do not need an adjustable master-we never use them on SPECS.
Since I already have the adjustable MC, would I be OK to just remove the shim and keep my MC? Have you installed any Spec V's on cars that already had the adjustable MC?
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thats wierd cause with my spec3 clutch i used the shim and the engagement point was too high for me...maybe an inch before it was completely let out...im wondering if this is the reasond my clutch went prematurely.

where do you want the clutch to start grabing at?? im askin in general not anyone specifically...is it near the bottom or near the top???

the stock one felt like it was perfect..right in the middle...i didnt like the spec3 at all..grabbed too high.
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Too high? Thats pretty crazy, opposite of mine. The engagement point is SO CLOSE to the floor on my stage 3. I think id rather have it high then low, seems like it be a lot more driver friendly.
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Originally Posted by RUNanLt1
Too high? Thats pretty crazy, opposite of mine. The engagement point is SO CLOSE to the floor on my stage 3. I think id rather have it high then low, seems like it be a lot more driver friendly.
yeah...but if its engaging high up to me i allways have it in the back of my mind that its not fully engaged...i dunno..its wierd. i like it somewhere in the middle...if i would have known the shimm brought the engagement point up i wouldnt have installed it.. but oh well...cant wait to see what it looks like when i get it out!
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Jason, put the shim in. Problem solved. Just as Slowhawk said above.
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Does the shim come with the clutch or what, noone has answered that?


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