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Old 02-13-2005, 05:56 PM
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Just got word from a feeeeeeeeewwwww spokespeople up at the auto show and they are for sure bringing back the Camaro within the next couple years after they get the ball rolling with the GTO and the new Z06....

Also! just a couple days ago Pontiac held a meeting discussing matters of a new generation of firebirds and they ARE coming back with the Camaro-unsure of engine but probably will be pushing 500 horsepower or so

I was told by a few people at a few different places-and it was all confirmed by a few other displays

was not told a specific year but Pontiac and Cadillac (woman whos friend is a chairperson dealy thingy lol) confirmed that it will be brought back-
new GTO i was told for next year or the following will be equipped with 500 hp as well

i do not want to get bashed for this this is what ive been told by several people among all the groups there
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Rumors....Seeing is believing for me.
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If true, that's awesome! I wonder if the 500 hp goat would be The Judge?
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If a GM person said it he's opening GM up to the potential for litigation. Believe the UAW in Canada is just waiting for a chance...
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
Rumors....Seeing is believing for me.
, but i would love it see it back
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I'll believe this one when it happens.
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
Rumors....Seeing is believing for me.
Agreed.

A 500hp Camaro would be great. Corvette would have to be well past that number though before GM would allow it.

Also, I can't see GTO being 500hp next (model) year. That would be a 150hp boost in two years, and I don't see that happening. There might be a judge model with 450hp or less, but I don't see the base GTO moving much from 400hp anytime in the next couple years. IMO.
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Believe half of what you see and nothing that you hear. Just kidding. Really though, with the stangs bitching up and going supercharged GM will need to "bring it" when the F Body comes back out, if its still gonna be an F Body.
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Heard all this BS before only to have Bob Lutz say different. I will not believe any of this until I see a production car.
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I heard from my sister's brother's mother's daughter that the Pinto is gonna come back out with a hydrogen based nuclear powerplant capable of producing 4.6 million hp at the reactor


....no but seriously, Im gonna have to see some proof
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Originally Posted by Full-Force
when the F Body comes back out, if its still gonna be an F Body.
No more F-body, ever. That platform is dead.

Nameplates may be reused but the F-body platform will not return.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
No more F-body, ever. That platform is dead.

Nameplates may be reused but the F-body platform will not return.
I agree the Fbody is dead because it was not selling enought units. Everyone was buying trucks and GM wanted to increase the production of trucks. From what I have read and heard GM is coming out with a new rear wheek drive mid size chassis that will have an LS2 option. This will repkace the Monte carlo, Grand Prix and GTO. Rumor has it that the chassis is suppose to be full tubular race car style chassis made out of carbon fiber. Stronger and lighter than steel. Suppose to be out in like 3 years. Beleive it when I see it.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Agreed.

A 500hp Camaro would be great. Corvette would have to be well past that number though before GM would allow it.
How about the 2005 Corvette AND the 2005 GTO both sharing 400hp from the LS2? GM would never do that, no....
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I have to go with everyone else. I'll believe it when I see it. The last rumor like this I heard was that you could expect to see the new camaro in 05. Now its changed to 07, next it is going to be changed to infiniti and beyond...
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They would need a new place to build them,the Canadian plant is outdated.
Nice dream that hopefully comes true
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Originally Posted by PendragonZ
How about the 2005 Corvette AND the 2005 GTO both sharing 400hp from the LS2? GM would never do that, no....

he meant that a "lesser" car would never be allowed to share the glory of the vette front runner, the Z06. and he is right. the vette has always been the "crown jewel" of the GM performance empire, and they will keep it by itself on its own pedistal.
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Originally Posted by Tommy's dad
They would need a new place to build them,the Canadian plant is outdated.
Nice dream that hopefully comes true

The canadian plant outdated The plant was demolished!My understanding is that had GM continued to build the F-body there much longer , they would have been obligated to keep the St Therese plant open for quite a few more years per the contract with the CAW.The CAW and the Quebec government have since sued GM.
In some ways it is better that GM stopped building the F-body as abruptly as they did.At least they didn't have the chance to make the F-body generic looking like the GTO.
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When there's a new Bird in my driveway I'll know that this wasn't just a rumor. But until then....
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Doesnt GM have an unspoken agreement to have no car more powerfull than the Vette.....Kinda like when the Grand National was making about 300hp, but was rated at about 240hp and the Vette was 255hp.



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