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Old 03-10-2005, 06:20 PM
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Is 12.9's a decent time for an 98 SS w/ close to a 100k on the clock with following mods, fipk, mac mid-length headers, hooker cat-back, and a cut-out? Im not sure what the trap was (if anyone has an idea what the trap is for that time let me know) I was just wondering cuz i think im gonna purchase the car and i was wodering is that a good time for the following car cuz i wanna see does it still have a prettly strong motor w/ that many miles.
Old 03-10-2005, 06:29 PM
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tranny, weight and gears?

seems slow for the mods.
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Elevation can effect times a whole lot. a car that runs 12.9 at sea level is gonna slow down a lot at 4000 feet and vice versa. Depending on the trans and gears I would say it seems about right for an A4 with 2.73's but kinda slow for an M6 with 3.42's or an A4 with the 3.23's.

Also I wouldn't take that time as gospel, driver skill will play a role in track times, especially with a manual trans.
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good point, i forgot about DA
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Its an A4 fully loaded, Im pretty sure it has the 3.23's.
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Originally Posted by 98V6camaro
Its an A4 fully loaded, Im pretty sure it has the 3.23's.
Where at in the U.S. did the car run a 12.9? Winter or summer? There is no slip?
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Im not too sure, But the car is in Kansas where i live and the track only opens in the summer time and the first sign of spring so im not too sure. Ill ask the guy when i have a chance. The owner still might have the time slip but i nevered asked him for it but ill see can a get a copy from him.
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you should be a good half second lower...maybe he had a bad 60'
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Originally Posted by 777
you should be a good half second lower...maybe he had a bad 60'
A 12.4 with those mods?? I doubt it. I think a 12.9 is good for those mods.. All they are are induction and exhaust on a 98 A4. An LS1 with 100k miles is still going to be plenty strong. How much is he selling it for?
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The price is a little high considering the mileage that is on the car, but he replaced everything that my mechanic pointed it out to him, like front driver side tie-rod, tranny leak (which is new and still under warranty), new pads, rotors, and the 2 front calipers, and also the rear end leak as well. I know it high for a fact but its been takin care of and should last a very long time espeically when i get it. Oh and hes asking $9500 and hes throwing in a MAF for free ( which doesnt matter really) but o well.
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Also i gave him a down payment for the car so he can hold it for me untill i sell my car which is basically sold once it gets out of the shop.
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Originally Posted by 98V6camaro
The price is a little high considering the mileage that is on the car, but he replaced everything that my mechanic pointed it out to him, like front driver side tie-rod, tranny leak (which is new and still under warranty), new pads, rotors, and the 2 front calipers, and also the rear end leak as well. I know it high for a fact but its been takin care of and should last a very long time espeically when i get it. Oh and hes asking $9500 and hes throwing in a MAF for free ( which doesnt matter really) but o well.
hey,we just bought a m6 99 ss with 60000 miles for 9995,& this car is in great shape,it is almost as clean as my 2000 ss with 7700 miles on it!!!i ran a 12.9 & 109 in my 2000 ss,it had 6500 miles on it at the time.i had 4.10 gears,nittos dr,lid & kn filter.if the one you are looking at ran 12.9 with it being an automatic,i will GUESS your MPH to be at or around 106 ?????????
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All A4 SS's has 3.23 gears. 12.90's sounds right for a '98 with a FIPK and mid lengths. Although some of the factory freak LS1's ran extremely low 13's or 12.90's stock your average LS1 never ran that stock.
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Originally Posted by Martingale
All A4 SS's has 3.23 gears. 12.90's sounds right for a '98 with a FIPK and mid lengths. Although some of the factory freak LS1's ran extremely low 13's or 12.90's stock your average LS1 never ran that stock.
I agree.
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my 98 z28 with 3.23's only ran a 13.7 stock. Since a SS has no more go stock, than a z28, I think 13.7 is a relatively good base time for cars like ours. I think a 12.9 is a great time for such a car with only midlengths, fipk, and a cut-out! I'd be happy with that!
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Stock for stock, the auto LS1's are dogs compared to the M6 cars. While I was running 8.7's @ 82mph with a 3.73 gear, my friends were running 8.4-8.6's @ 85+mph with their stock M6 cars.

A stall made all that pain go away though.

Stock M6 cars shouldn't EVER run over 13.5 at a decent DA.
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Originally Posted by john3daly
Stock for stock, the auto LS1's are dogs compared to the M6 cars. While I was running 8.7's @ 82mph with a 3.73 gear, my friends were running 8.4-8.6's @ 85+mph with their stock M6 cars.

A stall made all that pain go away though.

Stock M6 cars shouldn't EVER run over 13.5 at a decent DA.

I ran a 14.7 with mine .. @ 104mph That was with a flowmaster catback, the best flowing catback on the market

Nittos brought it to a 13.6 though.
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I should have said, "and below a 3.0 60'!"

You mean slowmaster?
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I would say that since it is an SS, 9500 is a decent price. I bought mine, with 84k miles, for 9100 last year.
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Originally Posted by john3daly
I should have said, "and below a 3.0 60'!"

You mean slowmaster?
Well the 14.7 was a 2.1 60' yet passed the 60' I was still having traction issues.

The 13.6 with nittos was on a 2.1 60' as well. Traction passed the 60' was cured though

And yes.. slowmaster was put on by the LS1 guro that owned the car before me

It has the proper LT/True Duals now though



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