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Old 02-13-2006, 09:05 AM
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I just bought a 2001 TA I have had people ask me if it is a WS6 I know it is not a WS6 but was wondering what the difference was between a WS6 and a TA
Old 02-13-2006, 02:08 PM
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The ws6 has better air box and airflow due to a less restrictive exhaust. Also has better tuned suspension. Of course the hood,bigger wheels and tires(traction!) I have owned both. I had a 99 TA and i still have my 02 ws6. Me and my dad raced them at the track. The 02 ws6 was bone stock down to the tires and the 99 TA had 3.73s,slp exhaust,k&n,and pcm had been programmed. The ws6 would walk him ALL day long 13.3 for the ws6 to 13.6 for the TA. The TA spun a little worse. Maybe if the TA had the same size tires as the ws6 it would have been closer. But anyway thats been my experience with the ws6 and the regular TA.
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have yall traded cars when racing maybe it was driver differences?
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Originally Posted by SVTKILLER
The ws6 has better air box and airflow due to a less restrictive exhaust. Also has better tuned suspension. Of course the hood,bigger wheels and tires(traction!) I have owned both. I had a 99 TA and i still have my 02 ws6. Me and my dad raced them at the track. The 02 ws6 was bone stock down to the tires and the 99 TA had 3.73s,slp exhaust,k&n,and pcm had been programmed. The ws6 would walk him ALL day long 13.3 for the ws6 to 13.6 for the TA. The TA spun a little worse. Maybe if the TA had the same size tires as the ws6 it would have been closer. But anyway thats been my experience with the ws6 and the regular TA.

It was the rim and tires.

I put some firebird 16x8s on mine before putting snow tires and and drove it with some Nittos and the tires would spin on a hard launch. With the larger WS6 rims I never lose traction from a launch unless it is wet or freezing temps.

Also, I agree with your statements on the differences. But I am sure we will have some TA owners without the WS6 option stating it is BS.

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Originally Posted by sycotic_reject
have yall traded cars when racing maybe it was driver differences?
Yes we traded cars. Whomever was driving the ws6 would walk away the entire race. Both automatics. I agree with you about the wheels and tires. 60ft for the ws6 was 2.0 and 2.1 for the TA. So theres .1 tenth right there. But the ws6 would still just barley walk him the rest of the track. And as far as somebody thinking its BS,They were both mine,why would i lie? But at the time the ws6's note was so high(bought it new) i was trying to get out of it by buying a TA and selling the ws6. But i just couldnt let myself get rid of it so i sold the TA to my dad and then he sold it.
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Back in 01 my friend bought a 2000 ws6 and I would beat him from a dig and a 60mph kick,not buy much though. I had a flow master and k&n at the time.
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Originally Posted by SVTKILLER
The ws6 has better air box and airflow due to a less restrictive exhaust. Also has better tuned suspension. Of course the hood,bigger wheels and tires(traction!) I have owned both. I had a 99 TA and i still have my 02 ws6. Me and my dad raced them at the track. The 02 ws6 was bone stock down to the tires and the 99 TA had 3.73s,slp exhaust,k&n,and pcm had been programmed. The ws6 would walk him ALL day long 13.3 for the ws6 to 13.6 for the TA. The TA spun a little worse. Maybe if the TA had the same size tires as the ws6 it would have been closer. But anyway thats been my experience with the ws6 and the regular TA.
Another reason is the 02 has the LS6 manifold, while the 99 had the LS1 manifold. That could be another factor.
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hmm i figured the 3:73s would get the win for the normal T/A...

getting a WS6 is OVERRATED
you pay over $1,000 more for a hood and rims...

But every ricer thinks a WS6 is god and a T/A is slow compared to them, so its fun to show people up.
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Originally Posted by 560SL
hmm i figured the 3:73s would get the win for the normal T/A...

getting a WS6 is OVERRATED
you pay over $1,000 more for a hood and rims...

But every ricer thinks a WS6 is god and a T/A is slow compared to them, so its fun to show people up.

You get more than a hood and rims and it costs more than $1,000. Do a search and see for yourself.

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LS1 manifold or not the 99 should still have won, have you got both of them dyno'd? the 99 may be one of the factory duds, or unless the tune on it sucked. I'm not calling BS, i dont doubt the WS6 won, but w/gears and exhaust it should have been the 99's.
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I agree with you guys,before we got to the track i was sure the 99 TA was gonna edge out the ws6. But traction was the factor first of all,and you guys know how hard it is to have to run somebody down,its not an even race when one has traction and the other doesnt. We were gonna swap out the ws6 wheels just to take it back and run it again but it just never panned out. Too bad
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Originally Posted by ActionJack
You get more than a hood and rims and it costs more than $1,000. Do a search and see for yourself.

So better STOCK suspension is worth it as well? Who keeps stock stuff anyways? I was going to get an SS, but couldn't find one in the price range I wanted. Then I sat down and thought is it really worth it to get a car for 3k more just for a hood, rims (which I would replace anyways), spoiler, better flowing muffler (which I would replace anyways) and better stock suspension (which I would replace anyways). That extra 3k that I saved will go towards a lot of parts.
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I'd pay $1,000+ for the rims, hood, and suspension. I guess the handling, looks, and better traction (with the wider rims/tires would easily be worth it for me). If you were going to replace the rims with something aftermarket anyways then its not worth it. I guess the sleeper look of the normal t/a is a good thing though. The extra power of the ws6 shouldn't be a factor in the purchase decision though because as ls1 is an ls1 is as ls1 and once you have a few mods (to replace the factory parts) all advantage that the ws6 car had is gone.

Originally Posted by 560SL
hmm i figured the 3:73s would get the win for the normal T/A...

getting a WS6 is OVERRATED
you pay over $1,000 more for a hood and rims...

But every ricer thinks a WS6 is god and a T/A is slow compared to them, so its fun to show people up.
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Originally Posted by 00 SLVR Z
So better STOCK suspension is worth it as well? Who keeps stock stuff anyways? I was going to get an SS, but couldn't find one in the price range I wanted. Then I sat down and thought is it really worth it to get a car for 3k more just for a hood, rims (which I would replace anyways), spoiler, better flowing muffler (which I would replace anyways) and better stock suspension (which I would replace anyways). That extra 3k that I saved will go towards a lot of parts.
So you have larger sway bars, better shocks, better wheels and a cooler hood on your car? All for 3k, thats impressive.

Yea traction would definatly do it to cause the regular TA to lose, that makes sense.
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What were the trap speeds for both cars. The 02 has the LS6 manifold but that shouldn't even come close to making that much of a difference. Also, how many miles were on each car?
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an ls1 is an ls1 is an ls1. i've walked ws6's in my T/A, and i've beaten a vette - before the cam and motor.

if you were going by the factory ratings and what they're "supposed" to be, then they should have both taken me. however - they didn't. its all about the driver.
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I think it really depends on what you want to do with the car. Consider that an OEM painted WS6 hood could cost you $2000 alone. It's not worth it for the power and suspension alone, IMO. I know, I own one. You could do alot better than those upgrades for alot less if you go aftermarket.
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What is up with all the ws6 envy???
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Originally Posted by 30thanniv
What is up with all the ws6 envy???
I know, doesn't anyone realize that the SS's are twice as fast?
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Originally Posted by 02 Camaro SS
What were the trap speeds for both cars. The 02 has the LS6 manifold but that shouldn't even come close to making that much of a difference. Also, how many miles were on each car?
The ws6 ran 104(auto,5,000mi) and TA ran 101(auto,60,000mi). I agree with you guys i was sure the TA would win. But maybe the mileage also played a part because the ws6 had the trap speed along with the e.t. I dont know I was just as suprised when we were going down the strip!



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