campbell0607

Can anyone tell me where I can find a ram air kit for my type 2 hood? It has the dual ports.

JerseyLS1TA

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Whats a type 2 hood exactly?

Sunset'01Z

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i'm assuming you have a 98-02 fbody in saying this, but you'd be throwing money away. just buy a lid, save some money, and buy headers and a dyno tune. ram air is a myth and wont increase power output untill you've reached a high rate of speed (well over 100mph).

DOOMZDAY

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A little vague there aren't ya? You have a type 2 hood? What car do you drive? Like the previous poster posted, ram air is like a guy telling you if u give him $50,000 now, he will give you $75,000 in 100 years. Now in 100 years, you will get the $75,000, but you will most likely also be dead so no use for the money. Ram air works, but only at speeds of well over 130+ which you usually won't be going on a daily basis unless you plan on making an appearance in NASCAR several times a month? Clear as mud?

jag42420

Assuming a "type 2 hood" is a WS6 hood, and the WS6 airbox is behind it, 'Ram air' becomes effective at about 50mph (see chart), but needs improvement from the factory's setup to get the best gain. The 'ram air' effect helps in higher speeds, but what you're looking for is the cold air that comes from outside the engine bay, even at idle. Tune out the haters, seal the gap between the airbox and the hood and debaffle. My IATs have never climbed above 91, my ETs consistently dropped .1 to .2, and my nostrils will hold a piece of paper to them since I sealed my airbox to my hood. Kits like the BGRA have proven this time and time again on the dragstrip with gains from .1 to .3 in the quarter.

blueeyeddevil141

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Please explain to me where you got that ridiculous chart from, haha.

35thANNIz28

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blueeyeddevil141

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It looks like it was made on microsoft paint....

jag42420

It was posted on here in a thread about testing the WS6 versus FRA. Regardless, track times speak for themselves with kits like the BGRA. Hell, even homemade seals drop .1 to .2 in the quarter. On top of the pressure increases, the important thing is the lower IATs. My IATs dropped to less than 91 even in heavy traffic after I sealed up and debaffled, from over 130.

_JB_

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http://www.installuniversity.com/ins...sity/index.htm for more IATs info.

blueeyeddevil141

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I never heard about the IAT's dropping that much, looks like I have a new project.

night ghost

yah i agree the stock ram air can be bettered very easily. i, myself, just bought a slp ram air when it picks up air where the bumper is. it did increase my times

jag42420

I'm pretty sure Fast Toys did the testing. They have since released a kit, and another chart like it is posted on their website. http://fasttoys.net/shop/product_inf...001944dc310e95 .

DVS99TRANS

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The other problem I think is that how can you have a true ram-air with out the nostrils somewhat sealed to the intake. Pretty sure you would get a lot of just blow-by air and would be alot more effective, but there are alot "more better" things to buy if your looking to go faster. I agree with getting the lid, it will do more everywhere in the powerband and not just at 100mph+.

jag42420

That's the point. If you already have the WS6 hood, debaffling and sealing can be cheap if you do it yourself (mine cost $25) and the typical gains are .1-.2 in the quarter. Pretty cheap mod compared to most mods that would gain that much. That's equivalent to approximately 10-15HP using the track time data.

For those not handy enough to create their own, kits like the Fast Toys JAAM are great. Even at $195, the gains are cost effective.

The lid is a given, improving the airflow path. The lid does not lower IATs though. Sealing the hood is effective from idle through WOT (so far as lowering IATs), and actually starts pressurizing at 50mph for true ram air effect.

Here's Fast Toys pressure comparison chart. The chart shows that the WS6 hood, in stock form, becomes effective at 80mph, while debaffling drops the effective speed to 60mph, and sealing reduces it to 40mph.

its turbo time

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man those charts suck, they need to switch the x and y axis around so it almost makes sense, i wonder why fast toys wouldn't have included there original ram air kit to compare to the "jaam." also does that chart supposedly represent psi?

RippinZ121

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what does debaffling mean??

DVS99TRANS

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The baffles just behind the stock airbox. Lowering IAT is definitely important, there's power to be had with cooler temps but think that you'd have to have bolt ons to really make it noticeable. Sorry, I'm not trying to bash anyone or trying to start an arguement Just my .02

jag42420

The request has been put to them to test the FTRA against and with the new kit for comparison.

The chart is measured using the traditional standard to check pressure:
"inch of water column (in WC)
a traditional unit of pressure, used in plumbing to describe both water and gas pressures. The conventional equivalent of one inch of water is 249.0889 pascals, which is 2.490 889 millibars, about 0.036 127 pounds per square inch (psi) or about 0.073 556 inches (1.868 32 millimeters) of mercury. "

jag42420

Typical ET gains are .1-.2 in the quarter on a stock car with homemade kits, kits like these and the BGRA. Gains of .3 have been achieved on modded cars. Lots of bolt ons and mods make the gains higher, but these gains are excellent on stock cars too.