anyone else fed up with HP tuners beta versions?
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I'm just happy to be able to tweak what i need to, when I need to.
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Beta updates are for beta testers only, if you have it is because you asked for it for testing purposes.
Beta tester = somebody who understands what "beta" means
Everybody else must use the latest stable release (2.22) which has everything working good, including analog inputs with standalone datalogging.
Beta tester = somebody who understands what "beta" means
Everybody else must use the latest stable release (2.22) which has everything working good, including analog inputs with standalone datalogging.
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Beta updates are for beta testers only, if you have it is because you asked for it for testing purposes.
Beta tester = somebody who understands what "beta" means
Everybody else must use the latest stable release (2.22) which has everything working good, including analog inputs with standalone datalogging.
Beta tester = somebody who understands what "beta" means
Everybody else must use the latest stable release (2.22) which has everything working good, including analog inputs with standalone datalogging.
The more amazing thing for me is if you read the thread about this on their forum, Keith is unaware that being able to install and run both versions at the same time doesn't work when he thinks he made that possible a year ago.
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I am disappointed at the lack of interaction in general on their forums. One of the main reasons I bought HPT over EFI Live is because I heard of their awesome forum where everyone is willing to help and the developers are so easy to reach. I have found that to not be true at all. In the past few months I have started about 5 threads there and not a single one of them got any interaction whatsoever. I had to either figure out my own answers or find them buried in Google somewhere. In addition, the "sticky" threads that used to be regularly posted in by Bill and Keith are no longer being paid attention to. Like the tutorial thread, many links in it have not worked for over a year now and people are asking Bill what's going on and it has been months since he has replied. It seems to me as though there is no longer anyone at the helm and the ship is just swinging and swaying in the storm.
I did have need for 2.23 though and Bill sent it to me quickly and it installed in addition to 2.22 on all 4 of my computers perfectly. I can use the regular release or the beta at will.
J. J.
I did have need for 2.23 though and Bill sent it to me quickly and it installed in addition to 2.22 on all 4 of my computers perfectly. I can use the regular release or the beta at will.
J. J.
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I've noticed the same thing. Best thing to do is just make friends with people on the forum and get their personal email and PM them when you have a problem. It's amazing how non-resourceful that forum has been for me. Everything I've either had to learn on my own or email someone with more knowledge than me.
I came to the domestic world from the import community, and I can tell you they are much more helpful over there in the tuning world.
I came to the domestic world from the import community, and I can tell you they are much more helpful over there in the tuning world.
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There are a lot of newer vehicles that they say they support that can only be edited with the beta version. It's been 4 years since there has been a new public release.
The more amazing thing for me is if you read the thread about this on their forum, Keith is unaware that being able to install and run both versions at the same time doesn't work when he thinks he made that possible a year ago.
The more amazing thing for me is if you read the thread about this on their forum, Keith is unaware that being able to install and run both versions at the same time doesn't work when he thinks he made that possible a year ago.
I have had both versions running at the same long before Keith modded them. They work fine. However I have Win XP and haven't tested w/ Win7
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i had to update to the beta version for a turbo 4.3 ive been working on and i like it alot. it added a bunch of tables to a couple cars ive been doing work on that make life so much easyer and the data logging well i honestly did what lsxpwrdz did haha
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I am disappointed at the lack of interaction in general on their forums. One of the main reasons I bought HPT over EFI Live is because I heard of their awesome forum where everyone is willing to help and the developers are so easy to reach. I have found that to not be true at all. In the past few months I have started about 5 threads there and not a single one of them got any interaction whatsoever. I had to either figure out my own answers or find them buried in Google somewhere. In addition, the "sticky" threads that used to be regularly posted in by Bill and Keith are no longer being paid attention to. Like the tutorial thread, many links in it have not worked for over a year now and people are asking Bill what's going on and it has been months since he has replied. It seems to me as though there is no longer anyone at the helm and the ship is just swinging and swaying in the storm.
I did have need for 2.23 though and Bill sent it to me quickly and it installed in addition to 2.22 on all 4 of my computers perfectly. I can use the regular release or the beta at will.
J. J.
I did have need for 2.23 though and Bill sent it to me quickly and it installed in addition to 2.22 on all 4 of my computers perfectly. I can use the regular release or the beta at will.
J. J.
Additionally regarding forum posts if you are having a tuning issue of some sort I usually comment in threads that I have experience in, if I don't think I have the right answer I'm not going to post just to post and have you chasing your tail.
-Bill
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Beta updates are for beta testers only, if you have it is because you asked for it for testing purposes.
Beta tester = somebody who understands what "beta" means
Everybody else must use the latest stable release (2.22) which has everything working good, including analog inputs with standalone datalogging.
Beta tester = somebody who understands what "beta" means
Everybody else must use the latest stable release (2.22) which has everything working good, including analog inputs with standalone datalogging.
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On my win7 PC when I installed 2.23 I uninstalled 2.22 figuring I would never need it again. It turned out I did so I tried reinstalling 2.22 and it won't let me now. It says I need .net 2.0 installed to install it but I do have .net 2.0. I'm not that hard up for 2.22 again so I'll just deal with it.
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In regards to this I decided to cancel my domain and server subscription, as I had some 500mb of free space I could use at verizon, I move all of my data over to my verizon space using my ftp, no big deal. Within a few weeks verizon decides "ok sorry guys no more ftp service f u" so now to get my files I need to go through each one of them manually(if I didn't have them saved to my hard drive somewhere) which is a complete pita so its not a high priority. Additionally, for some odd reason, a couple of months ago my login for the hpt server stopped working but nothings changed, either way it hasn't been that big of a deal because I haven't done any new demo's lately. With that said if theres something specific you are looking for let me know and I'll see what I can find as I've got probably close to a hundred demo's floating around on several hard drives and the verizon server.
Additionally regarding forum posts if you are having a tuning issue of some sort I usually comment in threads that I have experience in, if I don't think I have the right answer I'm not going to post just to post and have you chasing your tail.
-Bill
Additionally regarding forum posts if you are having a tuning issue of some sort I usually comment in threads that I have experience in, if I don't think I have the right answer I'm not going to post just to post and have you chasing your tail.
-Bill
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...?t=5058&page=5
J. J.
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Thanks for the response. I would just be happy if some of the tutorials that are already there worked or I knew how to get them to work. Check the original thread on your forum. Several of us have been asking about one of them specifically for a few months now with no response from you. Here's a link to the thread I am referring to:
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...?t=5058&page=5
J. J.
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...?t=5058&page=5
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I am disappointed at the lack of interaction in general on their forums. One of the main reasons I bought HPT over EFI Live is because I heard of their awesome forum where everyone is willing to help and the developers are so easy to reach. I have found that to not be true at all. In the past few months I have started about 5 threads there and not a single one of them got any interaction whatsoever. I had to either figure out my own answers or find them buried in Google somewhere. In addition, the "sticky" threads that used to be regularly posted in by Bill and Keith are no longer being paid attention to. Like the tutorial thread, many links in it have not worked for over a year now and people are asking Bill what's going on and it has been months since he has replied. It seems to me as though there is no longer anyone at the helm and the ship is just swinging and swaying in the storm.
I did have need for 2.23 though and Bill sent it to me quickly and it installed in addition to 2.22 on all 4 of my computers perfectly. I can use the regular release or the beta at will.
J. J.
I did have need for 2.23 though and Bill sent it to me quickly and it installed in addition to 2.22 on all 4 of my computers perfectly. I can use the regular release or the beta at will.
J. J.
That is the reason there isn't much help on there anymore... best bet for good tech info is to dig up the older threads where the tuners posted good tech, or figure it out like alot of us had to do back in the day when there was no help.
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No offense but most of the people that used to post on there alot were tuners that actually did tuning for a living at a shop. It is against their best interest to get on the internet and help someone with a tune using knowledge they have learned themselves and do for a living. Basically why should they help you for free and charge customers that walk in their front doors? That is part of the reason I don't post as technically as I once used to because it did me no good.
That is the reason there isn't much help on there anymore... best bet for good tech info is to dig up the older threads where the tuners posted good tech, or figure it out like alot of us had to do back in the day when there was no help.
That is the reason there isn't much help on there anymore... best bet for good tech info is to dig up the older threads where the tuners posted good tech, or figure it out like alot of us had to do back in the day when there was no help.