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Old 09-30-2005, 06:59 PM
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Default Sorry for the dumb question guys. Injector duty %age?

Is there a certain "ms" value that i'm looking for, or is the %age hidden (not necessarily hidden, but i've yet to find it) in the scanning software?

I logged a short nitrous hit (9-68), and the ms on my injector banks went as high as 13.1, vs 12.3 while not spraying.. Wish I knew what that meant. I'm curious what %age of duty cycle my injectors are putting out with my 75 dry shot.

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post some logs/bins, we'll take a look at it.
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Injector Duty Cycle Calculations

The Time you see divided by the theoretical limit is your duty cycle (a percentage)
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Originally Posted by RedHardSupra
post some logs/bins, we'll take a look at it.
This is the only one i've got (just got the software Tuesday)

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Two WOT runs come in around 3:00 from the end. (traffic sucks around here)

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Originally Posted by horist
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Injector Duty Cycle Calculations

The Time you see divided by the theoretical limit is your duty cycle (a percentage)
Thanks amigo.. That helps alot.
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the top injector duty is only 68%, but that can be a lie if whoever tuned your car was tweaking the IFR table the wrong way. why would i say that? because the tune is rubbish, you got up to 4% knock any time you get on it, so something is seriously off.

post the bin on which you did this log, maybe we can dig something out.
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RedHard...look at his sig, a 98 = prone to hyper/false KRSenors. Also the mileage on the car, build up of carbon and pre-igniting hot spots combined with tip in and you get some pretty funky knock... Not to discredit what your trying to say, I am merely throwing another possibility out there.
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oh yea, that is true...anyway, if we see the bin, we might be able to desensitize the KS a bit at least, see if helps any. i'm mostly afraid of IFR tweakers though, that's what i want to see.
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welcome to the 98s. You will almost always get 4 deg of knock retard with a 98. The IFR is set correctly and the timing is turned down for nitrous.

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So are you guys saying that that 4deg KR isn't happening?
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probably not for real, it's all in your head
there is no spoon

seriously though, put some 100octane in it, get on it, and my guess is that it won't go away, thus, it's fake
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13 ms is 13 ms and even if the ifr table is tweaked and the pe table dialed in for 13.0 or 12.5:1 those numbers are real. The final afr dictates how hard the injectors work. The numbers are real. Anyway you arent clse to the 80% duty cycle everyone likes to go by. Furthermore the duty cycle is a fake number everyone likes to argue all the time about. If you ahve a WB and see you are hitting a 100% dc you would think the car would go lean. I am here to tell you it wont. I have seen 116% duty cycle on my 00 26 lbs injectors and the WB never went lean at 12:1 AFR.
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Originally Posted by Ole1830
So are you guys saying that that 4deg KR isn't happening?
Yes, you have a 98 and it is a part of life with most 98s. Sure you can turn it down or off, but I wouldn't even think about it with nitrous.
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...1&page=1&pp=40


Read this 402 LS2 enignies make 500+ HP with SVO 30's what makes you think 2 lbs makes that much of a difference on a 346
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Well...

The wideband says 11.8-12.1 both NA and on the hose.. The injectors are 36# SVO's (rated @ 41-42 delphi), btw.

Thanks for the info guys. I can see I got alot to learn.
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Originally Posted by HumpinSS
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...1&page=1&pp=40


Read this 402 LS2 enignies make 500+ HP with SVO 30's what makes you think 2 lbs makes that much of a difference on a 346
Because those SVO's are flowed at 3 bar, not 4 bar like we run (aka 58psi). So, those 30lbers are more like 36lbers in our cars.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagnostics-tuning/326601-ok-settle-svo-injector-ratings.html




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