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The following are answers to most of the common LS1 questions. I've compiled this info to save people from having to do the work. Since i have gone to great lengths to provide this info and its stickied....


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                                                                                                Differences: 98,99,00,01,02

                                                                                                This is some basic info on the LS1 that i've gather from all of the internet and put into one list:

                                                                                                1998

                                                                                                1. Had differnet casting heads which had perimeter bolts and valve covers.
                                                                                                2. Ignition coils were mounted to the valve covers one at a time.
                                                                                                3. The water temp gauge actually works.
                                                                                                4. 98's do have an oil life monitor, they just don't tell you anything when its time for a change. You can find it in Auto-Tap
                                                                                                5. WS6s had single outlet exhaust (all others had duals)
                                                                                                6. Steering wheel controls were completely different part with indentations on the buttons, and were better built
                                                                                                7. Only year that Purple, Gold, and Green were available
                                                                                                8. Some very early Trans Ams came with LT1 style headrests
                                                                                                9. Rear hatch release was poorly designed and often caused problems releasing mechanism
                                                                                                10. Early model 98 Monsoon stereos didnt have capability to control 12-disc CD changer
                                                                                                11. 1998-1999 automatic transmission LS1s could be started in 1st gear even with the shifter in 2nd. Starting 2000, if you put the shifter in 2, it would start off in 2, even from a stop.
                                                                                                12. 1998-1999 LS1 cars had a smaller throttle body cam, which caused the throttle to open to WOT faster than 2000+ cars
                                                                                                13. 1998 cars had 28 lb fuel injectors from the factory
                                                                                                14. 1998-2000 cars had a larger cam than the 01-02 cars
                                                                                                15. 1998-1999 cars had more restrictive exhaust manifolds
                                                                                                16. 1998-2000 cars had an LS1 intake with EGR
                                                                                                17. 1998 and some early 1999 cars had blue outside rear view mirrors (TA/Formula only)
                                                                                                18. 1998 only LS1 blocks had a much smaller cylinder sleeve that only tolerated a .005" hone
                                                                                                19. Last year F-body to use the old 15.5 gallon steel fuel tank.
                                                                                                20. Only year LS1 F-body to contain a gascap with a tether long enough to actually hang from the fuel door while open
                                                                                                21. Only year LS1 F-body to not contain the famous GM black box used in the event of an accident to record up to 5 seconds of pre-crash data
                                                                                                22. 1998 only cars had a different PCV system with the PCV valve located above the passenger side valve cover
                                                                                                23. 1998 most cars did not have an idle adjustment screw on the throttle body. Some 98 cars do have the idle throttle stop set screws.
                                                                                                24. 1998 cars have a completely different PCM from 99+ cars
                                                                                                25. A production shortage of F-body cams caused the use of a C5 cam to be installed in F-body LS1s for a very short time
                                                                                                26. 97-98 LS1's used a paper water pump gasket. The only gasket that isn't reuseable
                                                                                                27. SSs did not ALL go to SLP starting in 98. Y2Y was the RPO code that sent them to SLP for additional options
                                                                                                28. SS option did not "include" the Synthetic oil package, it was a SLP only Option

                                                                                                1999

                                                                                                1. 1999-2000 cars switched to 26 lb fuel injectors
                                                                                                2. Cylinder heads and valve covers redesigned to have center bolts instead of perimeter bolts. Other than that, the heads were the same.
                                                                                                3. Redesigned cylinder sleeves that allowed for a small bore, up from .005" in 1998 models.
                                                                                                4. Midyear model change to a cheaper steering wheel audio control button without finger indentations, and cheaper built
                                                                                                5. 1999 cars continued the LS1 intake with EGR provisions
                                                                                                6. 1999 cars continued more restrictive exhaust manifolds and larger cam
                                                                                                7. Only year that Hugger Orange was available (Camaro only)
                                                                                                8. 30th Anniversary Trans Am available with special blue and white paint package and blue clear coated WS6 wheels
                                                                                                9. Switch to larger 16.8 gallon plastic fuel tank to meet new emissions requirements.
                                                                                                10. Gascap tether was shorter and could no longer be used to hang on the gas door when open.
                                                                                                11. Company wide change added black boxes to record up to 5 seconds of data before a crash
                                                                                                12. Rear hatch release was redesigned with stiffer spring that released the hatch better
                                                                                                13. Water temp gauge was redesigned to work basically as a dummy gauge and only show an overheat condition.
                                                                                                14. An oil life monitor was added to all LS1s, thus changing the gauge cluster a little to show the oil life reset swtich
                                                                                                15. 1999-02 cars had a different PCV system with the valve located to the side of the intake manifold
                                                                                                16. Early production 1999 Trans Ams still had the blue outside mirrors, but a midyear change went to the non-tinted ones
                                                                                                17. 1999 there was the color "Medium Blue Metallic" which was available on both the Camaros and Firebirds. Only one year of that color

                                                                                                2000

                                                                                                1. Redesigned exhaust manifolds for new emissions standard actually flowed better and created a little more HP.
                                                                                                2. 2000 continued use of LS1 Intake, EGR, smaller cam, and 26 lb fuel injectors
                                                                                                3. Added rear child seat safety hooks to interior per federal requirements
                                                                                                4. Very early run of WS6s had "salad shooter" style rims. A production change switched back to standard 5-spoke WS6 rims.
                                                                                                5. Camaros got redesigned 10-spoke base rims, and SSs came with new 10-spoke rim design
                                                                                                6. First year of Monterey Maple Metallic paint
                                                                                                7. Charcoal (grayish) interior was replaced with Ebony (almost black) leather interior
                                                                                                8. Cloth interior cars got new rainbow colored cloth patterns
                                                                                                9. Camaros only got the Pontiac steering wheel with optional audio controls
                                                                                                10. Throttle body cam was increased in size to slow the speed at which the car reaches WOT
                                                                                                11. Automatic transmission cars were reprogrammed to allow a car to start off in 2nd gear from a stop when the shift lever is put into 2.
                                                                                                12. The last year a WS6 Formula was offered
                                                                                                13. Starting 2000 intake lids contained a seperate breather filter
                                                                                                14. 2000+ Camaros came with body colored mirrors instead of black ones like 98-99

                                                                                                2001

                                                                                                1. A small percentage of 2001 and 2002 LS1s actually had LS6 blocks which had a different part number and a darker metal cast
                                                                                                2. Starting 2001, all LS1s came with an LS6 intake manifold without an EGR system
                                                                                                3. Advertised HP output was changed from 305 to 310 on base LS1s and from 320 to 325 on WS6s and SSs
                                                                                                4. 2001-02 cars have a smaller cam from the Vortec truck engines to increase low end torque
                                                                                                5. 2001-02 cars had 28 lb fuel injectors like the 98 cars (albeit different part numbers)
                                                                                                6. WS6 cars had a redesigned 5 spoke rim which was more wavy
                                                                                                7. WS6 cars got less suspension upgrades from a base Trans Am suspension than previous years
                                                                                                8. Manual transmission cars all came with the Z06 clutch

                                                                                                2002 - Last year of the F-body

                                                                                                1. 35th Annivesary edition of the Camaro, and Collectors Edition Trans Am available
                                                                                                2. 2002 LS1 head gaskets redesigned. The new ones are a pressed metal, as opposed to the graphite ones and are no longer specific to the side of the car theyre installed on
                                                                                                3. 2002 cars continued with the LS6 intake, 28 lb fuel inectors and smaller truck cam
                                                                                                4. 2002 continued the use of an LS6 block in some LS1 F-bodies
                                                                                                5. A factory supported optional 345 HP option could be ordered from SLP
                                                                                                6. Manual transmission cars continued use of the Z06 clutch
                                                                                                7. Some 2002 model F-bodies came with a revised rear view mirror that had the map light buttons on the bottom, rather than the front.

                                                                                                compiled by constrictor98ta (mike) from ls2.com

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                                                                                                Specific 2001 - 2002 Changes

                                                                                                The following is an excerpt from WARD'S AUTO WORLD, January 1998:

                                                                                                OVERVIEW
                                                                                                The small block legend continues in model year 2001 with more horsepower and a host of refinements, including several engineered for the new LS6 V8. Yet the bottom line hasn't changed. The LS1 takes a back seat to no V8 engine, and remains one of the best bargains in the automotive world.


                                                                                                NEW OR CHANGED FOR 2001 MODEL YEAR


                                                                                                Camshaft from LQ4 6.0-liter V8 (Vortec 6000) Truck Engine

                                                                                                Eliminate Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR)

                                                                                                Increased Volume Fuel Injectors

                                                                                                Increased Flow Air Cleaner with Larger Mass Air Flow sensor (MAF)

                                                                                                Pup Catalytic Converters

                                                                                                Cast Exhaust Manifolds with New Gasket

                                                                                                Reduced Tolerance Main Bearings

                                                                                                Revised Oil Level Tube and Indicator

                                                                                                Extended Maximum Oil Change Interval

                                                                                                Two-point Water Pump Vapor Vent

                                                                                                Sleeveless Coolant Sensor

                                                                                                Revised Powertrain Control Module Calibrations

                                                                                                Revised Rocker Cover Castings


                                                                                                CUSTOMER BENEFITS

                                                                                                LQ4 CAMSHAFT
                                                                                                Powertrain engineers found an elegant, cost-effective answer when the platform team asked for a five-horsepower increase in the 2001 LS1: They borrowed a billet-steel camshaft from the LQ4 Vortec 6000 truck engine. The new cam has more advance and different timing, delivering more torque lower in the rev range. Coupled with an improved air cleaner developed for the LS6 V8, the new cam increase horsepower by five in the Firebird.

                                                                                                EGR ELIMINATED
                                                                                                Application of the LQ4 cam produced a valuable side benefit: elimination of the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) system. The new cam creates more valve overlap, or periods when both intake and exhaust valves are partially open at the same time. Increased overlap allows the LS1 to meet National Low Emissions Vehicle (NLEV) certification without EGR. Removal of EGR reduces engine plumbing and potential leak sources.

                                                                                                INCREASED VOLUME INJECTORS
                                                                                                New fuel injectors increase maximum fuel delivery to 3.55 grams/second. The injectors were developed specifically for the new Corvette LS6 V8, but have been applied to the LS1 as well. Shared injectors mean assembly efficiencies, and open the LS1 to further power increases in the future.

                                                                                                MAF SENSOR
                                                                                                The LS1 benefits from other improvements developed primarily for the LS6, including Delphi's high-volume version 1.2 Mass Air Flow sensor, with integral inlet air temperature sensor. This MAF sensor increases intake volume and allows the Powertrain Control Module to adjust for optimal performance at a given air temperature.

                                                                                                  PUP CATALYTIC CONVERTERS
                                                                                                  Firebirds equipped with the LS1 borrow a page from the Corvette by adding a pair of pup converters for model year 2001. Mounted upstream from the primary catalytic converters, the pups heat more quickly and reach emissions light-off temperature before the primary converters. The pups help all 2001 LS1s meet Low Emissions Vehicle (LEV) requirements.

                                                                                                  CAST EXHAUST MANIFOLDS
                                                                                                  Pup converters also allow the LS1 to be fitted with cast iron exhaust manifolds developed for the LS6. These manifolds increase exhaust flow slightly and reduce cost considerably. They are also more durable than the dual-wall stainless manifolds on the 2000 LS1. Other things equal, cast manifolds take longer to reach full operating temperature than stainless, but with the pup catalysts light-off is still achieved in less than 20 seconds. A new gasket allows the manifolds to be used interchangeably between the LS1 and LS6.

                                                                                                  BEARING TOLERANCE
                                                                                                  Reduced tolerances in the crankshaft main bearings mean a more precise fit. The result is an increase in long-term durability and, just as importantly, a reduction in something known to engineers as "cold knock"--a slight slapping noise from the engine before it reaches full operating temperature.

                                                                                                  EXTENDED OIL-CHANGE INTERVAL
                                                                                                  New computer algorithms extend the oil-change interval. The Powertrain Control Module records engine temperature and length of operation at a given temperature; with new data on real-world customer use, engineers have adjusted the software to allow longer intervals before an oil change is indicated. The LS1 has a maximum permissible interval of 10,000 miles with recommended conventional lubricant.

                                                                                                  TWO-POINT VAPOR VENT
                                                                                                  The number of water pump vapor vents has been reduced from four to two, reducing cost. Experience with the LS1 has shown that two vents are sufficient to help maintain proper pressure and control coolant aeration.

                                                                                                  SLEEVELESS COOLANT SENSOR
                                                                                                  The coolant temperature sensor, supplied by Packard Electric, uses a plastic insulator to protect electrical leads in the brass housing, rather than a rubber sleeve. The new sensor reduces the possibility of assembly rejection or shorting in operation.

                                                                                                  PCM RECALIBRATION
                                                                                                  With the hardware adjustments, the Powertrain Control Module has been recalibrated to maximize performance and efficiency and ensure certification to National Low Emission Vehicle (NLEV) standards.

                                                                                                  NEW ROCKER COVERS
                                                                                                  Rocker covers have revised bosses, allowing the covers to be used interchangeably between car and truck small-block engines and enhancing assembly efficiency.

                                                                                                  CONTINUING FEATURES
                                                                                                  The LS1 achieved Low Emissions Vehicle (LEV) status in California for model year 2000, thanks to higher capacity catalysts on the Firebird and revisions that increased flow through the Air Injection Reaction (AIR) system in all applications. Cars equipped with LS1s were also fitted with On Road Vapor Recovery (ORVR) systems. The LS1 continues the grand tradition of one of the most important engines in automotive history--the original small block V8. While it shares its 4.4 inch bore centers with the first small block, the LS1 has introduced a host of advanced technologies to the overhead-cam V8, including all-aluminum construction, a thermoplastic intake manifold and drive-by-wire electronic throttle.

                                                                                                  The LS1 retains its high-efficiency gerotor oil pump, which is driven off the front of the crankshaft. Benefits of the gerotor design include improved low temperature delivery and better performance, due to lower parasitic power loss.

                                                                                                  "This engine obscures the line between overhead cams and overhead valves. There's no distinction anymore. The LS1 excels in reducing mass, package size and cost, with outstanding performance and NVH that's competitive with overhead-cam V8s. Doubters said we couldn't do everything--particularly meeting LEV—with overhead valves. We've proven them wrong." --John Juriga, Total Integration Engineer, LS1/LS6 V8

                                                                                                  LEADERSHIP
                                                                                                  The LS1 has wowed the business and enthusiast press, and found a spot on the WARD'S AUTO WORLD list of the 10 Best Engines in North America each year since its launch, because there is no arguing with results. This V8 exceeds customer expectations with outstanding overall performance at modest cost to both the customer and the corporation.

                                                                                                  "Tire-trashing torque is what you want in a world-class sports/GT car, and the LS1 delivers--RIGHT NOW—when overhead cammers are still spooling up. That such torque and horsepower come with more refinement than one has a right to expect in nearly six liters of thumping V8 proves how effectively the old small block has been redesigned."

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                                                                                                  Significant Gen III Engineering Points







                                                                                                  • All Gen III truck engines use iron blocks. Only the Camaro (F-car) and Corvette (Y-car) LS1/LS6 engines feature aluminum blocks.

                                                                                                  • All Gen III engines have aluminum heads except for the ’99 LQ4 engines that were equipped with iron heads. These engines received aluminum heads for the 2000 model year.

                                                                                                  • All Gen III engines share common main, rod, and cam-bearing journal diameters for ease of interchange. All blocks use a cross-bolted six-bolt main cap.

                                                                                                  • All Gen III engines are completely metric.

                                                                                                  • All valvetrain pieces are completely interchangeable. The standard rocker ratio for all Gen III engines is 1.7:1.

                                                                                                  • All Gen III truck engines use cast- aluminum oil pans that are deeper than either the Camaro or Corvette pans.

                                                                                                  • All intake manifolds interchange. The truck intakes are roughly 3-4 inches taller than the passenger-car intakes.

                                                                                                  • All Gen III engines employ reusable gaskets for all sealing surfaces except for the head gaskets. This makes it much quicker and easier to service the engine.

                                                                                                  • There are only two intake valve sizes for all the Gen III engines. Exhaust valves are all the same diameter.

                                                                                                  • Truck and Camaro engines use cable throttle linkage while the Corvette uses an electronic throttle. There are also some SUV engines with traction control that use an electronic throttle control.

                                                                                                  • Bellhousing patterns are the same for all Gen III engines. The crank flange is basically the same depth as the bellhousing flange.

                                                                                                  • The Gen III firing order has been revised from 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 to 1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3. Note that the pairings 1-8, 4-3, 6-5, and 7-2 remain the same, but the pairing order is different for reduced vibration.

                                                                                                  • The valve angle on all Gen III engines is 15 degrees versus 23 degrees for the original and Gen II small-blocks.

                                                                                                  • The Gen III bore spacing is the same as the original small-block, but each cylinder is ringed with only four head bolts instead of five.

                                                                                                  taken from Chevy High Performance.

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                                                                                                  98-02 Camaro Specifications:

                                                                                                  98
                                                                                                  99
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                                                                                                  98-02 Firebird/Trans Am Specifications:


                                                                                                  98
                                                                                                  99
                                                                                                  00
                                                                                                  01
                                                                                                  02

                                                                                                  Ram Air Packages


                                                                                                  SS Performance Package - includes 325-hp 5.7L LS1 V8 with forced air induction system, unique hood air intake, low restriction exhaust system, synthetic engine oil, P275/40ZR17 Goodyear Eagle F1 performance tires (maximum speed rating), 17" x 9" 5-spoke aluminum wheels, specially-tuned performance suspension with larger front stabilizer bar, stiffer springs, unique shock valving and stiffer bushings, specific exterior and interior "SS" badging and unique rear deck-lid spoiler

                                                                                                  Ram Air Performance and Handling Package - includes specific low restriction dual exhaust system, Ram Air induction system, functional hood scoops, 325 hp, 5.7L LS1 V8, P275/40ZR17 performance tires (maximum speed rating), 17" high-polished aluminum wheels, specific front and rear suspension with higher front and rear spring rates, unique shock valving, stiffer Panhard bushings and 3.23:1 rear axle ratio with automatic transmission; includes 3.42:1 rear axle with 6-speed manual transmission

                                                                                                  The 1998-1999 and some 2000 WS6's got 1LE springs and other minor 1le parts, different decarbon shocks, ect. Nothing major, but it was more than the simple swaybar upgrades of the mid 2000-2002 cars got.

                                                                                                  1998's also did not get the dual exhaust, instead they got a 3.5" stainless 1 out the left

                                                                                                  **** Just because an ls1 is equiped with the optional "performance" packages does not make them faster ****

                                                                                                  WHEN COMPARING CARS OF THE SAME YEAR AND TRANNY AN LS1 IS AN LS1 IS AN LS1 IS AN LS1 IS AN LS1 SO STOP WITH THE PETTY BULLSHIT..

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                                                                                                  Stock Cam Specs

                                                                                                  stock 98-00

                                                                                                  duration@.050 198.86 intake 209.25 exhaust
                                                                                                  lift .498 intake .497 exhaust
                                                                                                  LSA 119.45

                                                                                                  stock 01-02

                                                                                                  duration@.050 196.37 intake 208.72 exhaust
                                                                                                  lift .464 intake .479 exhaust
                                                                                                  LSA 115.92

                                                                                                  this is my 98 cam




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                                                                                                  Gears and Rear End

                                                                                                  98 Auburn, 99-02 Torsen
                                                                                                  M6 GU6 3.42 Standard
                                                                                                  A4 GU2 2.73 Standard
                                                                                                  A4 GU5 3.23 Optional (standard gear set with an SS/WS6/Firehawk)
                                                                                                  A4 G92 3.15 (Vette optional)
                                                                                                  28 Spline Axle 10 bolt rear end

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                                                                                                  How to tell if you have an LS6 Block



                                                                                                  15% of 01s and 25% of 02's got the LS6 Block. The only way to tell 100% is to check the casting number. As you can see in the above pic (my ls6 block ) the casting number is at the top of the deck on the drivers side. Take a mirror and place it behind the block and check or jack up the car and attempt to look from the bottom. The "easier" ways are the casting hue and bulleye methods but none are conclusive. If you really want to know if you have the block you'll need to do the work and look for yourself, end of story.

                                                                                                  Once you have determined if you have an LS6 block (ya you), then the only benefit to the block are the bay windows.



                                                                                                  Its generally accepted from most engine builders that if your going for an extreme setup that the LS1 block offers more structural strength over the LS6 block.

                                                                                                  THE LS6 BLOCK DOES NOT INCREASE HP, REPEAT AFTER ME "IF I HAVE AN LS6 BLOCK IT DOES NOT INCREASE POWER". LEARN IT, SAY IT, REPEAT IT.

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                                                                                                  THE FBODY IS UNDERATED, YES, YOU READ RIGHT. THOSE ADVERTISED NUMBERS THAT GM QUOTES ARE BULLSHIT. WHY GM UNDERTATED THE LS1 IN THE FBODY WE'LL NEVER KNOW FOR SURE BUT THE FACT IS THEY DID. AN LS1 IN THE FBODY WILL DYNO ANYWHERE FROM 270RWHP TO 320RWHP DEPENDING ON YEAR, TRANNY, AND OPTIONS (SS/'HAWK OR SLP OPTIONS).

                                                                                                  I REPEAT AGAIN THE 98-02 CARS ARE UNDERATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


                                                                                                  if i see a thread asking if the ls1's are underated im going to lock it and refer you here.


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                                                                                                  Vin Decoding



                                                                                                  below is an example of a vin from a 2001 car: 2G1FP22G912108833

                                                                                                  1st Country 2 Canada
                                                                                                  2nd Manufacturer G General Motors
                                                                                                  3rd Make 1 Chevrolet
                                                                                                  4th Carline Code F F-Body
                                                                                                  5th Series P Camaro (All Models)
                                                                                                  6th Body Type 2 2-Door Hatchback Coupe
                                                                                                  7th Restraint Syst. 2 Manual seatbelts (Driver & Passenger Inflatable)
                                                                                                  8th Engine G LS1 5.7-Liter V8 346-cid Engine
                                                                                                  9th Check Digit 9 Your VIN's Check Digit: 9 Computed Check Digit: 9
                                                                                                  10th Year 1 2001
                                                                                                  11th Factory 2 Ste. Therese, Quebec, Canada
                                                                                                  12th - 17th Seq. Prod # 108833 108833


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                                                                                                                          RPO Code List

                                                                                                                          RPO Production Codes (LS1)

                                                                                                                          AG1 - Power Adjuster, Driver Front Seat, Multi-Directional

                                                                                                                          AK5 - Inflatable Restraint System, Driver and Passenger Seat

                                                                                                                          AQ9 - Front Bucket Seat, Driver and Passenger Recline

                                                                                                                          AR9 - Front Bucket Seat, Driver and Passenger Recline, European Style

                                                                                                                          AU0 - Remote Entry Lock Control

                                                                                                                          AU3 - Side Door Electric Lock Control

                                                                                                                          AX4 - Restraint Conversion Seat, Manual European

                                                                                                                          A26 - Window Glazing, European

                                                                                                                          A31 - Window, Power Operated, All Doors

                                                                                                                          A90 - Lock Control, Right Component Lid, Remote Control Electronic Release

                                                                                                                          BAG - Parts Package Export

                                                                                                                          BBS - **** Shifter Hurst

                                                                                                                          B35 - Covering Rear Floor Mats

                                                                                                                          B9W - Wiring Provisions, DRL Override

                                                                                                                          CC1 - Roof Hatch Removable Panels, Glass

                                                                                                                          C49 - Rear Window Defogger, Electric

                                                                                                                          C60 - HVAC System AC Manual Controls, Front

                                                                                                                          DD9 - Mirror, Breakaway, O/S LH & RH Remote Control Electric Color

                                                                                                                          DE4 - Sunshade, Removable Hatch Roof

                                                                                                                          DG7 - Mirror, O/S LH & RH Remote Control Electric Color

                                                                                                                          DL5 - Decal, Roadside Service Information

                                                                                                                          DS1 - Sales, Diplomatic

                                                                                                                          D21 - Sunshade, Windshield

                                                                                                                          D35 - Mirror, O/S LH Remote Control, RH Manual Control, Color

                                                                                                                          ETA - Harness, I/P Wiring #1

                                                                                                                          FE2 - Suspension System, Ride and Handling

                                                                                                                          FE4 - Suspension System, Special Ride and Handling

                                                                                                                          FE9 - Certification, Federal Emission

                                                                                                                          FLT - Fleet Processing Option

                                                                                                                          F41 - Suspension System, Front and Rear Firm Ride and Handling

                                                                                                                          GU2 - Axle Ratio 2.73, Rear

                                                                                                                          GU4 - Axle Ratio 3.08, Rear

                                                                                                                          GU5 - Axle Ratio 3.23, Rear

                                                                                                                          GU6 - Axle Ratio 3.42, Rear

                                                                                                                          G80 - Axle Positraction, Limited Slip

                                                                                                                          JAF - Brake Provisions, European

                                                                                                                          J65 - Brake System, Power, Front and Rear Disc

                                                                                                                          K05 - Heater, Engine Block

                                                                                                                          K29 - Module Powertrain Control

                                                                                                                          K34 - Cruise Control, Automatic, Electronic

                                                                                                                          K43 - Generator, 102 Amp

                                                                                                                          K68 - Generator, 105 Amp

                                                                                                                          LS1 - Engine, Gas V8 5.7L SFI Aluminum

                                                                                                                          L36 - Engine, Gas V6 3.8L MFI HO

                                                                                                                          MAE - Marketing Area Europe

                                                                                                                          MM5 - Merchandised Transmission, Manual 5 Speed

                                                                                                                          MM6 - Transmission, Manual 6 Speed O/D

                                                                                                                          MN6 - Merchandised Transmission, Manual 6 Speed

                                                                                                                          MX0 - Merchandised Transmission, Automatic O/D

                                                                                                                          M30 - Transmission, Auto 4 Speed Electronic

                                                                                                                          M49 - Transmission, Manual 5 Speed O/D

                                                                                                                          NA3 - Emission System, Japan

                                                                                                                          NC1 - Emission System, California

                                                                                                                          NF7 - Emission System, Federal

                                                                                                                          NK3 - Steering Wheel, Sport, Soft Rim, Simulated Leather

                                                                                                                          NM2 - Emission System Export, Leaded Fuel

                                                                                                                          NP5 - Steering Wheel, Leather Wrapped

                                                                                                                          NP7 - Steering Column, EEC Approved

                                                                                                                          NT3 - Emission System, EEC 00

                                                                                                                          NW9 - Traction Control, Electronic

                                                                                                                          N36 - Steering Wheel, 4 Spoke Sport

                                                                                                                          N60 - Wheel, Aluminum, Painted

                                                                                                                          N66 - Wheel, Styled Aluminum

                                                                                                                          N73 - Wheel, Custom Sport Var4 17"

                                                                                                                          N92 - Cover, Wheel, Bolt-on

                                                                                                                          N96 - Wheel, 16 X 8 Cast Aluminum

                                                                                                                          N98 - Wheel, 16 X 8 Cast Aluminum Chrome

                                                                                                                          PA6 - Wheel, Styled Painted

                                                                                                                          PW7 - Wheel, 16 X 8 Aluminum Styled

                                                                                                                          P05 - Wheel, Chrome

                                                                                                                          QB3 - Wheel, 16 X 7.5 Steel

                                                                                                                          QCB - Tire, All P235/55R16-96T BW AL2

                                                                                                                          QEA - Tire, All P215/60R16-94T BW AL2

                                                                                                                          QFK - Tire, All P275/40R17-93W BW HW4

                                                                                                                          QFZ - Tire, All P245/50R16 BWAL3

                                                                                                                          QF6 - Wheel 17 X 9, Aluminum

                                                                                                                          QII - Tire, All P215/60R16-94H BW AL3

                                                                                                                          QLC - Tire, All P245/50R16/N BL HW4

                                                                                                                          TR7 - Headlamps, Control Leveling System, Automatic

                                                                                                                          T2H - Ornamentation Exterior, Export Unique Requirements

                                                                                                                          T2J - Ornamentation Interior, Export Unique Requirements

                                                                                                                          T37 - Lamp, Fog, Deluxe

                                                                                                                          T39 - Lamp, Turn Signal, Auxiliary

                                                                                                                          T43 - Spoiler, Rear

                                                                                                                          T65 - Lamp System, Daytime Running, Export

                                                                                                                          T72 - Headlamps, LH, Rule of the Road

                                                                                                                          T78 - Headlamp Control, Delete

                                                                                                                          T79 - Lamp, Fog Rear

                                                                                                                          T82 - Headlamp Control, Automatic ON-OFF

                                                                                                                          T84 - Headlamps, RH Rule of the Road

                                                                                                                          T85 - Headlamps, LH Rule of the Road

                                                                                                                          T89 - Lamp, Tail & Stop, Export

                                                                                                                          T90 - Lamp, Signaling and Marker, Export

                                                                                                                          T96 - Lamp, Fog

                                                                                                                          UA6 - Theft Deterrent System

                                                                                                                          UB3 - Cluster, Instrument, Oil Cool Temp Volts Trip Odom Tach

                                                                                                                          UC2 - Speedometer, Instrument, Kilo & Miles, Positive Bias

                                                                                                                          UD4 - Alarm, Vehicle Speed, 120 K/H

                                                                                                                          UK1 - Frequencies, Japanese

                                                                                                                          UK2 - Lever, Directional Signal, Includes Multi-Functions

                                                                                                                          UK3 - Control, Steering Wheel, Accessory

                                                                                                                          UL0 - Radio, AM/FM Stereo Seek/Scan Auto Rev Music Search Cass Auto-Tone Clock ETR

                                                                                                                          UL2 - Frequencies, European

                                                                                                                          UL8 - Frequencies, Saudi Arabian

                                                                                                                          UM6 - Radio, AM/FM Stereo Seek/Scan Auto Rev Cass Clock ETR

                                                                                                                          UN0 - Radio, AM/FM Stereo Seek/Scan Compact Disc Auto Tone Clock ETR

                                                                                                                          UQ0 - Speaker System, 4 Dual Front Door Mounted, Dual STD RGE, Qtr/Shelf

                                                                                                                          UW3 - Radio, AM/FM Stereo Seek/Scan, Auto Rev Music Search Cass Data System Clock ETR

                                                                                                                          UZ7 - Speaker System 8, Quad Front Door Mounted, Dual Sail Panel, Dual Rear Hatch Amplifier

                                                                                                                          U12 - Speedometer, Dual Scale with Kilometer Odometer

                                                                                                                          U19 - Speedometer, Instrument, Kilo & Miles, Kilo Odometer

                                                                                                                          U59 - Speaker System 8, Dual Front Door Mounted, Quad Sail Panel, Amplifier

                                                                                                                          U73 - Antenna, Fixed Radio

                                                                                                                          U75 - Antenna, Power Radio

                                                                                                                          VA5 - Language Label, English

                                                                                                                          VD1 - Provision Options, Europe

                                                                                                                          VE1 - Provision Options, Japan

                                                                                                                          VE2 - Protector Source Applied

                                                                                                                          VG1 - Protector, Underhood Compound, Clear

                                                                                                                          VG4 - Protector, Undervehicle Compound, Black

                                                                                                                          VG9 - Protector Wax, Exterior Body

                                                                                                                          VH5 - Plate Vehicle Identification

                                                                                                                          VI6 - Fleet Incentive, American Standard

                                                                                                                          VJ1 - License Plate Rear Mounting Package, Japanese

                                                                                                                          VK3 - License Plate, Front Mounting Package

                                                                                                                          VL4 - License Plate, Front Mounting Package, EEC

                                                                                                                          VL5 - License Plate, Rear Mounting Package, Export

                                                                                                                          VL6 - License Plate, Front Mounting Package, Japanese

                                                                                                                          VP6 - Noise Control

                                                                                                                          VR6 - Hook, Tie-Down, Shipping

                                                                                                                          VR7 - Hook, Tow, Second, Rear

                                                                                                                          V12 - Cooling System, Power Steering Fluid

                                                                                                                          V76 - Hook, Tow

                                                                                                                          WS6 - Performance Package Special

                                                                                                                          WX7 - Wiring Provisions

                                                                                                                          W53 - Entertainment System Option C

                                                                                                                          W54 - Entertainment System Option D

                                                                                                                          W55 - Entertainment System Option E

                                                                                                                          W66 - Merchandised Package, Formula

                                                                                                                          W68 - Sales Package, Firebird Ground Effects

                                                                                                                          X10 - Entertainment System, Option L

                                                                                                                          X20 - Entertainment System, Option M

                                                                                                                          Y3F - Sales Package, Sport, Appearance Upfitter

                                                                                                                          Y4A - Exhaust Cat Back

                                                                                                                          Y4B - Provisions Level II Ultra Performance Suspension

                                                                                                                          Y4C - Lubricant Engine Oil & Performance

                                                                                                                          Y4D - Axle Torque Sensing Differential

                                                                                                                          Y4E - Cooling System Engine Oil

                                                                                                                          Y4F - Provisions Hurst Shifter

                                                                                                                          Y4G - Provisions Chrome Wheels

                                                                                                                          Y4H - Ornamentation Dash Plaque & Key Fobs

                                                                                                                          Y4J - Covering Floor Front Mats

                                                                                                                          Y4K - Protector Car Cover

                                                                                                                          Y4L - Provisions Spoiler

                                                                                                                          Y81 - Merchandised Package, Firebird

                                                                                                                          Y82 - Merchandised Package, Firebird, Trans Am

                                                                                                                          Y84 - Merchandised Package, Firebird Trans Am, GTA

                                                                                                                          Y87 - Merchandised Package, Performance Enhancement

                                                                                                                          1R3 - Vehicle Identification Label 1

                                                                                                                          1R4 - Vehicle Identification Label 2

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                                                                                                                          Code Description
                                                                                                                          AG1 Adjuster, 6-Way Power, Driver Seat
                                                                                                                          AG4 Adjuster, 2-Way Manual, Driver Seat
                                                                                                                          AH3 Adjuster, 4-Way Manual, Driver Seat
                                                                                                                          AK5 Restraint System Front Seat, Inflatable, Driver and Passenger
                                                                                                                          AN4 Restraint Provisions, Child
                                                                                                                          AQ9 Seat, Passenger and Driver, Recline
                                                                                                                          AUO Lock Control, Remote Entry
                                                                                                                          AU3 Lock, Side Door, Electric
                                                                                                                          A31 Window, Power Operated, Side
                                                                                                                          A90 Lock, Rear Compartment Lid, Remote Control, Electric
                                                                                                                          B35 Floor Mats, Rear, Carpeted Insert
                                                                                                                          B84 Exterior Molding, Body Side
                                                                                                                          CC1 Roof Hatch, Removable Glass Panels
                                                                                                                          C41 HVAC System, Heater
                                                                                                                          C49 Defogger, Rear Window Electric
                                                                                                                          C60 HVAC System, Air Conditioner, Manual Control
                                                                                                                          DD9 Mirror, Outside, LH & RH, Remote Control, Electric, Breakaway, Painted
                                                                                                                          DE4 Sunshade, Removable Hatch Roof
                                                                                                                          DG7 Mirror, Outside LH & RH, Remote Control, Electric, Painted
                                                                                                                          DL5 Decal Roadside Service Information
                                                                                                                          D35 Mirror, Outside LH Remote, RH Manual, Painted
                                                                                                                          D82 Paint Special
                                                                                                                          FE2 Suspension system, Ride handling
                                                                                                                          FE9 Certification Emission, Federal
                                                                                                                          F41 Suspension System, Firm Ride Handling, Front and Rear
                                                                                                                          GU2 Axle, Rear 2.73 Ratio
                                                                                                                          GU4 Axle, Rear 3.08 Ratio
                                                                                                                          GU5 Axle, Rear 3.23 Ratio
                                                                                                                          GU6 Axle, Rear 3.42 Ratio
                                                                                                                          G80 Axle, Rear Posi-traction (Limited Slip)
                                                                                                                          ILD Trim, Interior Design
                                                                                                                          IL2 Trim, Interior Design
                                                                                                                          IPB Trim, Interior Design
                                                                                                                          IP2 Seat, Leather Sport Front Bucket, Driver & Passenger, Reclining
                                                                                                                          J41 Brake System, Power, Front Disc, Rear Drum, Cast Iron
                                                                                                                          J65 Brake System, Power, Front and Rear Disc
                                                                                                                          KG9 Generator, 140 Amp
                                                                                                                          K05 Heater, Engine Block
                                                                                                                          K34 Cruise Control, Automatic Electronic
                                                                                                                          K68 Generator, 1 05 Amp
                                                                                                                          LT1 Engine, 5.7L (V8) MFI
                                                                                                                          L36 Engine, 3.8L (V6) MFI
                                                                                                                          MM5 Transmission, 5-Speed Manual (Merchandising Option)
                                                                                                                          MM6 Transmission, Manual, 6-Speed, Borg Warner, 65mm, 2.66 1st, 0.50 6th, O/D
                                                                                                                          MN6 Transmission - 6-Speed Manual (merchandising Option)
                                                                                                                          MXO Transmission - Automatic O/D (Merchandising Option)
                                                                                                                          M30 Transmission - Automatic, 4-Speed, 4LE, Electronic
                                                                                                                          M49 Transmission, Manual, 5-Speed, Borg Warner, 77mm, 3.75 1st, 0.76 5th, O/D
                                                                                                                          NB6 Emission System, California Requirements, Tier 1
                                                                                                                          NC3 Tailpipe Modifications
                                                                                                                          NF2 Emission System- Federal Requirement, Tier 1
                                                                                                                          NK3 Steering Wheel, Sport, Soft Rim, Simulated Leather
                                                                                                                          NP5 Steering Wheel, Leather Wrapped
                                                                                                                          NW9 ASR Traction Control
                                                                                                                          N36 Steering Wheel, 4-Spokes, Sport
                                                                                                                          N60 Wheel, Aluminum, Painted
                                                                                                                          N92 Cover, Wheel, Bolt-On
                                                                                                                          N96 Wheel, 16x8, Cast Aluminum
                                                                                                                          N98 Wheel, Chrome, Var 2
                                                                                                                          P05 Wheel, Chrome, Var 1
                                                                                                                          P08 Cover, Wheel, Super Deluxe
                                                                                                                          QA7 Wheel, 16x7.5, Aluminum
                                                                                                                          QB3 Wheel, 16x7.5, Steel
                                                                                                                          QEA Tire, P215/6OR16 BW R/Pe ST TL AL2 94T
                                                                                                                          QFZ Tire, P24515OZR16 BW R/PE ST TL AL3
                                                                                                                          QII Tire, P21516OR16 BW R/PE ST TL AL3 94H
                                                                                                                          QLC Tire, P24515OZR161N BL R/PE ST TL HW4
                                                                                                                          STE Plant Code-St. Therese, PQ, GM of Canada
                                                                                                                          TR7 Headlamps, Automatic Control Leveling System
                                                                                                                          T39 Lamp Turn Signal, Auxiliary
                                                                                                                          T43 Spoiler, Rear
                                                                                                                          T61 Lighting- Daytime Running
                                                                                                                          T96 Lamp, Fog
                                                                                                                          UA6 Theft Deterrent System
                                                                                                                          UB3 Instrument Cluster, Oil, Coolant, Temperature, Volts, Trip Odometer, Tachometer
                                                                                                                          UK2 Lever, Directional Signal, Multifunction
                                                                                                                          UK3 Electronic System Accessory Control
                                                                                                                          UL0 AM/FM Cassette ETR 200 Watt Monsoon Sound System w/cassette
                                                                                                                          UN0 AM/FM Cassette ETR 200 Watt Monsoon Sound System w/CD player
                                                                                                                          UN6 Radio, AM/FM stereo, Seek/Scan, Auto Reverse Music Search Cassette, Clock, ETR
                                                                                                                          UQ0 Speaker System 4, Dual Front Door Mounted, Standard Range Quarter/Shelf
                                                                                                                          UU8 Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Seek/Scan, Auto Reverse Music Search Cassette, HPS, Clock, ETR
                                                                                                                          U1C Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Seek/scan, Compact Disc, Clock, ETR
                                                                                                                          U1S 12 Disc Compact Disc Changer
                                                                                                                          U1T Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Seek/Scan, Compact Disc, HPS, Clock, ETR
                                                                                                                          U18 Speedometer Instrument Kilometers
                                                                                                                          U19 Speedometer Instrument, Kilometers and Miles, Kilometer Odometer
                                                                                                                          U62 Speaker system 4, Dual Coax Front, Dual Coaxial Package shelf
                                                                                                                          U65 Speaker system 5, Dual Front Door Mtd, Dual Ext. Range Panel, Single Rear Compartment
                                                                                                                          U73 Antenna, Fixed
                                                                                                                          U75 Antenna, Power
                                                                                                                          VG8 Label, Vehicle, Notice to Buyer
                                                                                                                          VH5 Plate, Vehicle Information
                                                                                                                          VK3 License Plate, Front Mount Package
                                                                                                                          VP6 Noise Control
                                                                                                                          WS6 Performance Package - Formula/Trans Am
                                                                                                                          WU8 SS Performance Package/Appearance Package - Camaro
                                                                                                                          W51 Entertainment system - Radio, AM/FM-stereo, seek/scan, cassette, 4 Speaker system · Standard Range
                                                                                                                          W52 Entertainment System - Radio, AM/FM stereo, Cassette, Equalizer, 4 Speaker system - Coaxial
                                                                                                                          W53 Entertainment System - Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Compact Disc, Equalizer 4 Speaker System - Coaxial
                                                                                                                          W54 Entertainment System - Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Cassette, Equalizer, 10 Speaker System, Amplifier
                                                                                                                          W55 Entertainment System - Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Compact Disc, Equalizer 10 Speaker System, Amplifier
                                                                                                                          W57 Entertainment system - Radio, AM/FM stereo, Cassette, Equalizer, 4 Speaker system - Coaxial
                                                                                                                          W58 Entertainment system - Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Compact Disc, Equalizer, 4 Speaker system - Coaxial
                                                                                                                          W59 Entertainment system - Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Cassette, Equalizer, 6 Speaker System, Dual Front Door Tweeters/Woofers, Extended Range Shelf
                                                                                                                          W66 Merchandised Package - Formula
                                                                                                                          W73 Entertainment system - Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Compact Disc, Equalizer, 6 Speaker system, Dual Front Door Tweeters/Woofers, Extended Range Shelf
                                                                                                                          Y81 Merchandised Package - Firebird
                                                                                                                          Y82 Merchandised Package - Trans Am, Base Coupe
                                                                                                                          Y84 Merchandised Package - Trans Am
                                                                                                                          Y87 Merchandised Package - Performance Enhancement
                                                                                                                          Z28 Merchandised Package - Special Performance
                                                                                                                          Z49 Canadian Modifications
                                                                                                                          01U Primary Color exterior, Special
                                                                                                                          05Q Molding Color, Cyclamen
                                                                                                                          O5U Primary Color Exterior, Cyclamen
                                                                                                                          1LE Performance Package Components
                                                                                                                          101 Interior Trim - Arctic White
                                                                                                                          1OT Top Color - Arctic White
                                                                                                                          102 Trim Combination Leather, Arctic White
                                                                                                                          1OQ Molding Color - Arctic White
                                                                                                                          1OU Primary Color - Exterior, Arctic White
                                                                                                                          12B Trim Combination - Cloth, Graphite
                                                                                                                          12D Trim Combination - Cloth, Graphite
                                                                                                                          121 Interior Trim - Graphite
                                                                                                                          14B Trim Combination - Cloth, Dark Gray
                                                                                                                          1SG Preferred Equipment Group
                                                                                                                          28U Primary Color - Exterior, Navy Blue Metallic
                                                                                                                          1FP87- Camaro Coupe Z28

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                                                                                                                          How to Tell an SS/WS6/Firehawk is Real

                                                                                                                                RPO code list can be found on the inside of the DRIVERS side door where it latches. IF you dont have an above code you dont have a real SS/WS6/Firehawk. SS/Firehawks with SLP options will have the options list code on the Passenger inside door pannel. If you dont have that list it means you just have a regular SS/Firehawk w/o SLP options.

                                                                                                                                SLP made the SS until " " when GM started building them inhouse. ASC did all the WS6 conversions and SLP did all the Firehawks.

                                                                                                                                  For more SS/WS6/Hawk info check the "Special Editions" forum.

                                                                                                                                  im tired of seeing threads asking if my SS/WS6/T/A/Z28 is real. here are a set of instructions on finding out exactly what it is and obtaining legit proof.

                                                                                                                                  1. Take VIN to GM dealership
                                                                                                                                  2. Go to Parts and Service
                                                                                                                                  3. Give them your VIN and ask them for a build sheet and window sticker on your car.
                                                                                                                                  4. if you dont want to pay, ask them to confirm if it is real or not.

                                                                                                                                  SLP/ASC specific cars.
                                                                                                                                  Call SLP or ASC with your VIN and have them verify if it is a true SS/WS6
                                                                                                                                  SLP did the SS and Firehawks
                                                                                                                                  ASC did the T/A's


                                                                                                                                  Phone numbers and addresses:

                                                                                                                                  ASC:
                                                                                                                                  1 ASC Center
                                                                                                                                  Southgate, MI
                                                                                                                                  48195
                                                                                                                                  Phone: 734-285-4911

                                                                                                                                  SLP:
                                                                                                                                  1501 Industrial Way North
                                                                                                                                  Tom River, NJ
                                                                                                                                  08755
                                                                                                                                  Phone: 734-349-2109
                                                                                                                                  Fax: 732-244-0867

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                                                                                                                                  The Millennium Motor: Inside the LS1

                                                                                                                                  by Hib Halverson
                                                                                                                                  Electronic Version, copyright 1996, 1997 by Shark Communications

                                                                                                                                  Adapted from material published on the Vettenet and ZR1 net mail lists in August 1996 and from a printed version in the August, 1996 issue of Corvette Fever magazine

                                                                                                                                  Before the 1997 Corvette was even in dealers, it had been reported for a year or more that the all-new platform, known to insiders as "C5," would be the first General Motors Corporation product to use a new family of medium-displacement V8 engines. Though the car did not debut on the show circuit until January 6, 1997 and in dealers on March 6. 1997, way back on June 11, 1996 in Los Angeles, GM confirmed the engine rumor with a preliminary to the C5 launch: a press show spotlighting its engine.

                                                                                                                                  My first reaction back then was that what’s known as "RPO LS1, 5.7L SFI V8," is an outstanding design, engineering and manufacturing exercise destined to be yet another landmark in the history of America’s Sports Car. My second reaction? A snicker at the show biz that clouded the engine’s debut.

                                                                                                                                  It is not unusual to introduce a new Corvette engine before its car. In 1988, media got a comprehensive technical seminar on the LT5 nine months before it was shown the ZR1. Of course, this is now; and that was then.

                                                                                                                                  A major deficiency of this June 11 show and Chevrolet’s other LS1 publicity efforts around the country in the summer of 1996 was that 1) they failed to adequately address the most striking feature of LS1: its pushrod valve gear and 2) they came wrapped in a spoof of medical TV shows. The Corvette community contains many potential C5 customers who were not served well by this program because its information value was degraded by its need to entertain.

                                                                                                                                  The quality and timeliness of the in-depth, LS1, technical information reaching the Chevrolet enthusiast was further blunted by only average coverage to date from Corvette media and Chevrolet’s decision to let Hot Rod magazine break the LS1 story ahead of all other publications. The stories that finally made it into print in the Corvette media were either too brief, poorly researched or lacked depth because their editors felt preempted by Chevrolet’s leaking the story.

                                                                                                                                  These shortcomings of these processes are why you have The Idaho Unofficial Corvette and Corvette Surfing WWW sites. Like a beacon of reality, we’re going to cut through the smoke to the hard-core, gearhead story behind this stunning, new engine.

                                                                                                                                  The LS1 press kit said, "Based on a timeless design by former Chevrolet Chief Engineer Ed Cole, the ‘Gen III’ 5.7-liter V8 marks a bright new chapter in the highly respected lineage that GM small blocks have established in more than 40 years."

                                                                                                                                  I think Chevrolet understated its case.

                                                                                                                                  LS1 is brilliant.

                                                                                                                                  Rather than just a chapter in engine history; it’s more like a whole new book!

                                                                                                                                  What it is not is: "based on" Ed Cole’s legendary Small-Block. LS1’s greatness comes from being a clean-sheet-of-paper design. The only major feature it has in common with the Small-Block is a bore center-to-center measurement of 4.40 inches and we believe that exists for marketing reasons rather than an engineering case.

                                                                                                                                  When and Why

                                                                                                                                  By 1991, writing was already on the wall. While tens of millions of Small-Blocks had been produced in 36 years, the basic architecture would be a liability if customer demands for world-class performance, increasingly stringent exhaust emissions regulation and higher fuel economy standards were going to be met. While Chevrolet and the General Motors Powertrain Division (GMPD) knew the Gen II (LT1/4 and L99, introduced for 1992) and Gen I-E (light-truck, Vortec series engines, introduced for 1996) upgrades would stretch the Small-Block’s life; it was clear that further improvement was needed, if those demands were going to be addressed in the late-'90s and early-'00s.

                                                                                                                                  That winter, deep inside GMPD, study began of a third iteration of the Small-Block V8. Expectedly, someone coined the name "Gen III" and it stuck. The project had SAE net power and torque goals of 1 horsepower and 1 pound/foot of torque per cubic inch displacement. There was a weight reduction goal of about 60 lb. When asked about durability, reliability, drivability and pleasability objectives; GMPD said only that intent in those areas was "best in class." While that phrase was maybe a bit ambiguous, because Corvette has few direct competitors and none with big V8s, my road test of a C5 pilot car (VIN 00063) in March of 1997 showed the new engine exceeds expectations for drivability and meets them for pleasability. I suspect that time will show the engine's reliability/durability equaling and possibly exceeding that of the Gen II Small-Block.

                                                                                                                                  The first major challenge may have been more philosophical than technical. John Juriga, LS1 Project Manager, talked about the initial design period, "Trying to decide what was the right engine technology for the application was probably the biggest hurdle we faced."

                                                                                                                                  This was really not one decision, but a series of them that carried throughout the early phases of the program.

                                                                                                                                  In February of 1993, a stunning decision, arising from this GMPD "soul searching," was to discontinue Gen III as a Small-Block and do it as a totally new, medium-displacement, V8. The change was made after it became obvious that a Small-Block could not meet the program’s goals; however, don’t think that Gen III work to-date had been for nothing. Significant technology developed for the still-born, Small-Block Gen III went into the 1996 LT4. Roller rocker arms, more aggressive camshaft, hollow-stemmed valves, intake and exhaust port enhancements, rolled-fillet crankshaft and "powdered-metal" rods, all early Gen III ideas, were pulled ahead for the last Small-Block in a Corvette.

                                                                                                                                  Initially, it was thought that the first of the all-new Gen IIIs might show up in a low-volume, 1996 truck application, but as engineers better understood the time necessary to take it from paper to production and make it best-in-class; it was decided that the engine would debut for 1997 in Corvette trim. A similar, but slightly less powerful LS1 goes into the Camaro in 1998 and the all-new, '99 or ’00 C/K trucks will get the iron block/aluminum head version. Perhaps other places a Gen III might appear are a "Monte Carlo SS" (front-drive, smaller displacement, aluminum), maybe a high-performance compact truck (iron block/alum. head) and in trucks over of 8600 lbs. GVW and higher (iron block/iron head).

                                                                                                                                  We suspect that the first, very early prototypes of the all-new, Gen III ran on the dynos at GM Powertrain sometime in the early spring of 1993. In-vehicle testing began at the GM Milford Proving Ground in the first week in May of 1993 with the "Chevrolet Engineering and Research Vehicle IV-A" (CERV4a) powered by a prototype, of 5.0 liters and having an iron block and aluminum heads. Eight months later a second car, the CERV4b fitted with a 5.7L iron block/aluminum head Gen III, was added to the test program.

                                                                                                                                  The Gen III passed the "Concept Direction" "gate" in the development process in September of ’93. To do this, it had to have demonstrated the capability to meet the requirements set for the project. Then came Concept Approval. That happened in May of 1994 when the LS1 was within 10% of all development targets.

                                                                                                                                  The C5 "alpha" build, which produced the first prototype cars that were reasonably close to how the 1997 Corvette would look, began in June of 1994. By late-summer, the alpha phase was in high-gear and most all used iron block/aluminum head Gen IIIs at first, with a few all-aluminum units showing up late that year.

                                                                                                                                  The next C5 iteration, the "beta," began to appear at the end of June 1995. Betas were very representative of what production C5s would be and were the last cars built in Michigan at GM prototype assembly line. Betas used mostly, aluminum LS1s. By fall-'95, the beta build was complete, but the number of cars in testing, believed to have been about two dozen, sometimes exceeded the supply of reliable, all-aluminum engines. Betas not used in development where vehicle mass approximating production intent was necessary, sometimes got iron block/aluminum head engines.

                                                                                                                                  By late 1995 or early 1996, the aluminum block shortage was less of a problem and the LS1 progressed to the point that final development in prototype C5s was underway. That continued into the April of 1996 when the engine was released for production.

                                                                                                                                  An interesting aspect of the engine program was the "Cormaro". In the first six months of 1995, twenty C5 structure/chassis/powertrain combinations were fitted with modified ’95 Camaro bodyshells. These cars were used well into 1996 for powertrain development and were a perfect way to put street miles on the LS1 without drawing attention...at least until ace spyshooter, Jim Dunne, published a picture of a Cormaro in AutoWeek magazine and identified the car as a Gen III V8 "test mule."

                                                                                                                                  There was also an unknown number of C4s that were fitted with Gen III engines. These cars were used to develop cold-start ability and the traction control system software.

                                                                                                                                  Last edited by jrp; 05-29-2005 at 07:15 PM.


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