daniel6718

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ive got a stealth box with a mtx thunder 10 and 100 watt alpine amp...pioneer headunit and alpine door 6.5 speakers with tweeders in the doors...

i dont wanna lose any cargo space but want more bass, do 8's in the sail panels help much at all for bass? if i had those 2 8's and 2 10's in 2 stealth boxes in the trunk would i get pretty good bass? the problem now is i can already hear my mtx out of air space when i turn up the bass...

also i need my high tones louder from the doors, but i run them from the headunit so i think a simple amp on them would be more then enough...


then my next problem will be finding space for 3 amps...cars a t-top car and i wont mount amps visible or the system...damn

or how about i take a step back and yall guys reccomend me some stuff...

vjo90rs8

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the problem with your subwoofer setup is your are only supplying it with 100W. Get a nice RE SE10 or Alpine Type R subwoofer and a 500W+ amplifer and you'll get the bass you want. Im running a 10" type R in a stealth box with a 480W amp and that thing hits hard. Then get a nice 200W amp for the front speakers. I have 2 amplifers and I didn't lose any cargo space unless you like setting things where my amps are.

99Bluz28

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Fi Q10 1ohm dvc (wired for a 2ohm)

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*MMATS D1600.2 (1150 rms @ 2ohm)

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For your front speakers get a 2ch. amp with at least 50 and up to 100 watts rms per channel.

You can mount 1 small amp under the passenger seat and another 1 where the factory monsoon amp mounts by making a custom mount board.

daniel6718

iTrader: (36)

hmm ill try a bigger amp...but i think there just not enough air space in that box

edit...i just tried my 350 watt jl amp and it wasnt any louder...its airspace

vjo90rs8

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Air space should be fine. The stealth boxes are around .6ft^2 which is right about where you want to be with a sealed box and a 10. Its the 100W that is killing you.

daniel6718

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ok well im telling yall its not getting any louder...the alpine amp is actually very good for only being 100 watts...

i just hooked up a jl 350 watt amp and it does the same thing...the sub starts bottoming out...i mean either one it oblivously shakes the car mirrors and windows and sounds good...and you can feel it somewhat...but barely...i want to feel the bass in the car like shake your hair ect which isnt a lot more...thats what i want...and i dont want my system topped out to do this...
if the box was 1 cubic foot or slightly bigger i think it would do it...

vjo90rs8

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I'm just saying, there is a lot of people that run stealth boxes with 600W+ amplifiers and it seems to work perfectly fine. What are the specs on your subwoofer? If I turn up my volume I can feel my hair move and it is still clean as hell, instead of trying to build a box around a bad or crappy subwoofer (not sure if it is bad or crappy, but sounds like it from your description), maybe you just need a new sub and amp (something at can handle 500W or so)

my bandit

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i have a jl stealth box with a 10w3 in it with an alpine 450w amp and its pretty loud.
i might swap it out for a 10w6 if there is enough air space

daniel6718

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strange...do the 8's in the sail area give much bass??? cause much vibration in the plastics and rattles?

id do the pass stealth too but ive got a n20 bottle over there...

vjo90rs8

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i have front components only with a 10" sub in a stealth box (no sail panel speakers at all), definitely hard hitting and if I go loud enough my ear drums start to hurt, so I know that this setup is good enough for me. Id say, get a big amp and a good subwoofer, if you dont like it, get another sub and stealth box.

Plus, not sure if you want to have your bass coming from 3 different speakers. Just curious, what model subwoofer do you have?

Blackfly

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I about to install the same box and Sub woofer. Some dillweed on this site doubts my skills. Ill post pics when install is complete.

Here is my setup:
Front Door: Alpine components Alpine SPR-17S 110wRMS
Sail Panel: Alpine SPR-17C 2-way 100wRMS

Capacitor:
TKO Audio BH-CAP54D 1.5 Farad

Sub:
Subthump 10" Driver side cubby
Alpine SWR-1042D Dual 4Ohm 500wRMS

AMP RACK:
Alpine MRP-M500 mono amp 500w RMS @ 2 Ohm load
Alpine MRP-F600 4 channel 100wx4 RMS

99Bluz28

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Besides needing a lot more power, you need a sub with more xmax and power handling than your current sub.
IMO, the only way a larger box is really going to make it noticeable louder is if it's ported, or 2 subs in a larger sealed box.

daniel6718

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well i like the way a ported box thumps...but i tried to port the stealthbox and i got practically no bass at all from it...

the mtx sub i think is 350watt...ive done the bigger and it didnt help? im lost as to what to do...

99Bluz28

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Yeah, you probably need at least 1cu.ft. for the sub in a ported box. That was a external port correct?
I'm currently running 2 IDMAX 10s in 1.6 cu.ft. each with a external Aeroport port @ 29hz with 1350 watts rms each;
It pounds!
Before that( just last month)I ran those same subs each in a stealth box and it was really loud! But I still wanted deeper/louder bass, and now I have it!

crossroads

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I'm thinking of getting the new JL sub that is designed for small spaces...its 2.5 inches thick....the model is TW5

sprayed5oh

Your box is too small to port.Might just want to try a different sub build your own box like i did.

Mike454SS

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Sounds to me like it's the sub, not the amp or the box...but when you get a GOOD sub, you'll NEED a good amp for it.

I'm running a single 10 in a JL stealth box, and witha 400W amp, it makes my hair shake...thats the first thing people comment on with my stereo...then they say "wow, your stereo sounds clear"

BandDirector Blk98ZM6

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...I'm going to jump in here and agree it's a sub/amp combo issue. In the early 90's, I had 2 Kicker 12's in a hatchback, but I only sent them 75 watts RMS each and the best I could hit with that car is a 132 dB on the meter. I now have a single 10" Eclipse sub with a big X-Max sending it 250 watts RMS of old school Orion power and I hit 134 dB in my Z28. Before I had the Orion amp, I was only sending it 150 watts RMS with a Sony amp, and I could only muster around 130 dB with that set-up.

IF you have a GOOD sub that can handle power and has a good X-Max AND you send it a good amount of power, the results will be FANTASTIC.

You can check out my install here on how to get all those amps mounted without sacrificing ANY cargo space!

http://www.banddirector.cz28.com/photo.html

mrhzk35404

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I have the Jl stealth box and when my 10W3 crapped out on my I emailed JL and asked if the 10W7 would work in that box and they told me yes. I did not go with it b/c of the cost. I ended up going with a MTX 5500 and it hit to my liking. I now need a new amp.

fspeedster

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Your going to need a lot more watts and at least two 12" subs for that.