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Old 05-03-2013, 08:15 PM
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I’ve been having A LOT of encounters with crotch rockets lately. Some stories I haven’t posted, but this I’ll share. So late last night was one of those beautiful nights, high 70s and clear skies, and I was just coasting at 60 mph in the middle lane with the windows/convertible top down. Suddenly, I see a group of 5 bikes riding together at a high rate of speed in the left lane. As they pass me, a few of the bikes put it in neutral and throw me some revs to get my attention. I put it in neutral and throw them a rev back (love hearing those crackles and pops of my exhaust). They take off, and I was going to let them go on their way, but the road was wide open and I thought I would play a little. Downshifted and kept their pace, eventually passing them up. Then, one of the guys emerges from the pack and catches up to me. It was an all black bike with a huge rear tire. Didn’t catch the branding, but my guess was that it was more than a 600. Anyway, he gets next to me in the left lane and Im in the middle lane at 100 mph and he gives me a wave to go (kind of saying in a cocky way to go ahead and gun it as he is going to rip me anyway). So I take it into 4th and gun it and he ducks down to his gas tank and rips it too. I pull the length of my Vette and he is in my blind side at the start. At this point I have tunnel vision and am not really paying attention to him. 110, 120, 130, 140 mph….waiting for him to rip by me but he couldn’t. Then suddenly we caught some traffic with a car in the middle and right lanes. I need to switch over into his left lane and I really couldn’t see where he was. I make the move to the left lane and see he is a motorcycle length behind my car. At this point Im at 150mph, hit the rev limiter in 4th, and then stood the brakes immediately. He slows down as well. He never gets next to me, and I jump over and take the exit. Guess he was a little “too confident” in the power in his bike with the cocky wave he gave me at the start. I really thought he was toying with me or something. Instead, it looks like his bike is slower than he thought. His friends were all witnesses too. It is such a rush to run with bikes, but this is the last one for a while, I know where my car stands at this point. If I had my top up, it wouldn't even have been that close.
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You sir, are clueless. My GTO would absolutely destroy you and a 750 or bigger crotch rocket would destroy me. What do you mph in the 1/4? 116? I assume you are a LS2 based on the fact you 'conveniently' left out your year of vette. LS3 envy right there.

A 1,000cc sport bike like you are implying would trap 145-150mph. Your car NEVER would slow it's pull less yet think of holding it off. Don't you even read the kill section posts? Posts were members on here take videos of races where there 600 and 750cc bikes destroy 600+rwhp vettes and cobras and such?
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You sir, are clueless. My GTO would absolutely destroy you and a 750 or bigger crotch rocket would destroy me. What do you mph in the 1/4? 116? I assume you are a LS2 based on the fact you 'conveniently' left out your year of vette. LS3 envy right there.

A 1,000cc sport bike like you are implying would trap 145-150mph. Your car NEVER would slow it's pull less yet think of holding it off. Don't you even read the kill section posts? Posts were members on here take videos of races where there 600 and 750cc bikes destroy 600+rwhp vettes and cobras and such?
A guy with a ***-matic GTO taking crap? lol You are funny "sticks-and-stones." A4's are weak in the triple digits. I will put money my Vette will put a hurting on your GTO after 100 mph. You coming out and attacking me, maybe you have some Vette envy?


You are clueless. A 600 cc bike looses a lot of steem after 100. A high speed roll is not a good starting point for most bikes.
And where did I say this was a 1000cc bike? Maybe it was a 750, that's my guess.

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a 600 still has plenty of power at 100 if in the right gear. A fat rear tire either means he drag races his bike, or he doesnt know how to ride for ****. Since he obviously doesnt know how to drag race, you beat the rider.

Good kill though, a 600 is plenty easy to kill, but not by a bolt on z51. 600s are capable of 10s stock. A 750/1000 wouldve raped you.
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So the synopsis is:

Driver beats shitty dumbass rider who runs on a 600 from a 100 mph roll(lmao). Assumes he beats literbikes.

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This forum gets worse and worse by the day.

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I don't really understand why guys with bikes on the forum are talking about 1/4 mile drag racing. Keep the context of this run in mind; a 100 mph roll with the guy in the bike instigating that type of run. For some reason, all the runs I'm getting with bikes are guys trying to run from a high speed roll when it's not necessarily their strong point (and it's my vette's strong point).
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Originally Posted by callmedoc
I don't really understand why guys with bikes on the forum are talking about 1/4 mile drag racing. Keep the context of this run in mind; a 100 mph roll with the guy in the bike instigating that type of run. For some reason, all the runs I'm getting with bikes are guys trying to run from a high speed roll when it's not necessarily their strong point (and it's my vette's strong point).
because they can trap over 120mph. Dont you understand? its impossible to beat a bike! It cant be done, just like a lt1 cant beat a ls1 and a ls1 cant beat a terminator! Its never been done even if its on video!

lol jk, as i said, fat rear tire from a roll=your advantage. Good kill
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I dont know why everyone is hating so bad.... Anyone on a 600cc bike that gives a relatively quick car the hit from a 100mph roll... is just asking for trouble. I mean hell... how often do the super star riders start a race from 100mph?
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Originally Posted by callmedoc
A guy with a ***-matic GTO taking crap? lol You are funny "sticks-and-stones." A4's are weak in the triple digits. I will put money my Vette will put a hurting on your GTO after 100 mph. You coming out and attacking me, maybe you have some Vette envy?

You are clueless. A 600 cc bike looses a lot of steem after 100. A high speed roll is not a good starting point for most bikes.
And where did I say this was a 1000cc bike? Maybe it was a 750, that's my guess.
A simple converter lock up goes a long way.

I'm not arguing or taking credit away... But a more of a FWIW kind of thing... I could get on a early 2000 F4i (slower side of 600s) and put several lengths between us giving you the hit even from a 100mph roll.
From 40-50mph (1st gear) it would leave you sitting still.

You beat what is probably an average rider on a 600 from 100mph... From a normal 40-60 roll with a bike and someone who has some what of a clue what is going on with the bike.. It would take a 125-130 mph 3200ish # car to win against an older F4i 600 if the raced stopped at a normal 130-140mph.

Again, not hating.. Great kill and nice car... But that didn't really show your cars "place".

People think it is easy to ride bikes.. While that is true... When racing there are so many people that royally **** it up it is absolutely unreal. Simply starting in the wrong gear and not tucking will make a 125mph trapping bike seem like it is a 110mph trapping bike, HUGE difference.
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Originally Posted by Zlow28

lol jk, as i said, fat rear tire from a roll=your advantage. Good kill


Originally Posted by evangto87
I dont know why everyone is hating so bad.... Anyone on a 600cc bike that gives a relatively quick car the hit from a 100mph roll... is just asking for trouble. I mean hell... how often do the super star riders start a race from 100mph?
I'm wondering the same thing....agreed on all points.

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I'm not arguing or taking credit away... But a more of a FWIW kind of thing... I could get on a early 2000 F4i (slower side of 600s) and put several lengths between us giving you the hit even from a 100mph roll.
From 40-50mph (1st gear) it would leave you sitting still.

You beat what is probably an average rider on a 600 from 100mph... From a normal 40-60 roll with a bike and someone who has some what of a clue what is going on with the bike.. It would take a 125-130 mph 3200ish # car to win against an older F4i 600 if the raced stopped at a normal 130-140mph.

Again, not hating.. Great kill and nice car... But that didn't really show your cars "place".

People think it is easy to ride bikes.. While that is true... When racing there are so many people that royally **** it up it is absolutely unreal. Simply starting in the wrong gear and not tucking will make a 125mph trapping bike seem like it is a 110mph trapping bike, HUGE difference.


Thanks for the compliment on my car, I appreciate it. However, this is not my 1st kill of a bike. I posted recently on an 80 mph roll encounter with a Yamaha R6:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/street-ra...ette-vert.html

That run was definitely with a good driver. I pulled away from him fully ducked down after 120 mph, with my convertible top down no less which slows me down pretty good at speed.

I also had another encounter with an unknown 600 where we ran from a high speed roll and I pulled away from him as well. After 3 different experiences, I really think 600cc bikes have a tough time with decently quick cars in the triple digits. They all couldnt have been bad drivers.

While I'm confident my Vette can trap 120+ as it sits (hell, I ran 115.86 stock and documented; never ran with my mods now and it's a lot quicker than it was then) I always take ALL C6 Z51 Vette 1/4 miles with a grain of salt because there is a shift into 4th gear right before the 1/4 mile marker and that's exactly the point these cars start stretching their legs.......
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If it is trapping in the 120+ range I could see you pulling a 600 in the higher speeds from those high of rolls, especially given the hit... A good rider would hold you off but you would without a doubt come around.

Just remember.. A 1st gear roll (for the bike) is going to be considerably different. Don't **** with bikes in their 1st gear RPM range, it makes it VERY hard to run them down and pass them.

Good kills my man.
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The biggest thing that changes the game with racing 600s... is starting at lower speeds. For example... from 40-120....you need a fast car to keep with a 600. My old gto trapped 120 but ran a little stronger on the roll then its track experience proved. A well ridden 600cc (not perfect riding, but well ridden) would pull out on me roughly 2 bikes from 40-50 mph and would hold it to 120ish... where after that, i would start to pull back... by 150mph... i was literally running away. This was the usual out come with any 02-07 600R series bike with decent riders. A bad rider would never manage to even pull ahead at any point. There are however the guys like PSM... who will absolutely devastate you on a small CC bike and you will be left clueless. But his riding is 1 out of a 100.

Me and Beans ( a really good rider on a 750 who is on this site) are going to go bike hunting in my boss. Its a bit quicker then the GTO was in its prime. My goal is to target 600cc bikes. We are curious to see how many i beat... and how many i dont. Last week i raced a 220lb rider on an 05 636 (ideally the fastest 600 on the market). Rider had a good tuck, and started in first gear. His shifts were decent but not the best. The closest race we had was the third one. He started in first, me in second. His biggest flaw was he would be a little lazy on the hit so i would always have a small jump on him. But he fell to my rear tire, pulled to my front tire by 115...and by 130, i was pulling away fairly well. The other races were worse for him.

However, That doesnt give me a big head...because i know PSM could get on that bike and embarrass me.
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Originally Posted by callmedoc
A guy with a ***-matic GTO taking crap? lol You are funny "sticks-and-stones." A4's are weak in the triple digits. I will put money my Vette will put a hurting on your GTO after 100 mph. You coming out and attacking me, maybe you have some Vette envy?


You are clueless. A 600 cc bike looses a lot of steem after 100. A high speed roll is not a good starting point for most bikes.
And where did I say this was a 1000cc bike? Maybe it was a 750, that's my guess.
reread your post floormat mod guy. btw I've crapped turds faster then your viagra-mobile. and for the record, A4's do just fine at high speeds: wouldnt happen to live nearby would you? i can show you.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
reread your post floormat mod guy. btw I've crapped turds faster then your viagra-mobile. and for the record, A4's do just fine at high speeds: wouldnt happen to live nearby would you? i can show you.
How fast is your car? That you actually can say a bolt on ls2 vette is a turd...
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There are however the guys like PSM... who will absolutely devastate you on a small CC bike and you will be left clueless. But his riding is 1 out of a 100.

This.. At some point you will talk **** to someone on a 600 after you have ran 20 other 600s and walked them 3-4 lengths.

Then you run a person that REALLY knows how to get the bike to perform and they run out 5-6 lengths and hold you off until 130-140 and by that time it is a sealed deal.

What I was getting at- Until someone is trapping 130+, don't expect to pull every stock 600 riding around.
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Nice kill. Of course there's a one off rider that everyone is referring to, but really most people on bikes just can't ride so just enjoy the victory.

Oh, and don't try what you did if they are on a 1000...they don't need a good rider to beat a 120 car.
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My buddy had a 130mph mustang that would just start to come around our buddies cbr 600rr after 100mph or so. and that's with a 130 car, your car like other have stated is prolly around 120ish(i dunno if this is true or not lol just a guess). so it's hard to believe you beat a good driver on anything over a 600.
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Ever catch a car draft at 140+ on a bike? Hope your damper is tight.
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