Another Guy on a Bike Gets his Feelings Hurt…
05-05-2013, 10:48 AM
#41
Id say the bike was poorly riddin. Now that being said you better have some power to race any 600 -1300 cc with a real rider 1-4 gear. i raced a 1300 turbo hybusa from 80mph to 170. My car was a 830 hp 02 turbo z28, six speed 3.73 gear. On the hit he put 3 bikes on me. Did he leave me no but i couldent catch him. Then I raced a gxr 750 from 60-170, on the hit he put 2 bikes on me by 110 or so i passed him. This just my .2 I just know with a real rider on 600cc bike will walk a 550 hp vette froma dig and a 40-80 roll. You really need 600-700 hp to walk a 600cc from a roll. Not trying to hate but this what I think lol.
05-05-2013, 12:33 PM
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Id say the bike was poorly riddin. Now that being said you better have some power to race any 600 -1300 cc with a real rider 1-4 gear. i raced a 1300 turbo hybusa from 80mph to 170. My car was a 830 hp 02 turbo z28, six speed 3.73 gear. On the hit he put 3 bikes on me. Did he leave me no but i couldent catch him. Then I raced a gxr 750 from 60-170, on the hit he put 2 bikes on me by 110 or so i passed him. This just my .2 I just know with a real rider on 600cc bike will walk a 550 hp vette froma dig and a 40-80 roll. You really need 600-700 hp to walk a 600cc from a roll. Not trying to hate but this what I think lol.
FWIW a properly set up turbo busa/14 will take a dedicated drag car to beat from either a dig or a roll. We're talking 1,000hp minimum entrance fee
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05-05-2013, 06:40 PM
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As far as the run, just like in life, when your up against a difficult opponent you want to play to your strengths and their weaknesses. I always manage to bait guys on bikes to a high speed roll (they are so easy to bait). Hence, all the outcomes ive had. I accept my car is not going to beat every bike from any type of race. Just commenting on my life experiences with high speed rolls and guys with various bikes.....
Tracked350Z, I'm in Houston, so whenever you're here PM me, im down for some runs on film for the forums. If you wait too long though, I'm going to have an Edelbrock E-force at that time
05-05-2013, 08:54 PM
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As evidenced by this thread...lol. Even brings out the guys that wish their motor was attached to a C6...haha
As far as the run, just like in life, when your up against a difficult opponent you want to play to your strengths and their weaknesses. I always manage to bait guys on bikes to a high speed roll (they are so easy to bait). Hence, all the outcomes ive had. I accept my car is not going to beat every bike from any type of race. Just commenting on my life experiences with high speed rolls and guys with various bikes.....
Tracked350Z, I'm in Houston, so whenever you're here PM me, im down for some runs on film for the forums. If you wait too long though, I'm going to have an Edelbrock E-force at that time
As far as the run, just like in life, when your up against a difficult opponent you want to play to your strengths and their weaknesses. I always manage to bait guys on bikes to a high speed roll (they are so easy to bait). Hence, all the outcomes ive had. I accept my car is not going to beat every bike from any type of race. Just commenting on my life experiences with high speed rolls and guys with various bikes.....
Tracked350Z, I'm in Houston, so whenever you're here PM me, im down for some runs on film for the forums. If you wait too long though, I'm going to have an Edelbrock E-force at that time
.I beat a CBR600 when my car was just a bolt-on LT1 that ran 12.8s, but that doesn't mean I should brag since with a rider who actually knew what he was doing I would have been bus lengths behind.
05-05-2013, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck
Some bike guys get so butt hurt, especially ones who also have fast cars, because they know how ridiculous a car needs to be to hang with a properly ridden modern crotch rocket of ANY size. High speed roll baiting only works on new riders with 600s who start in too high of a gear and don't tuck. With your mods a modern literbike - even with a shitty rider - will take your lunch money from any speed you want to go at. Bigger then a literbike? They won't even have to down shift and will put train lengths while laughing in their helmets .
I beat a CBR600 when my car was just a bolt-on LT1 that ran 12.8s, but that doesn't mean I should brag since with a rider who actually knew what he was doing I would have been bus lengths behind.
I beat a CBR600 when my car was just a bolt-on LT1 that ran 12.8s, but that doesn't mean I should brag since with a rider who actually knew what he was doing I would have been bus lengths behind.
05-05-2013, 11:59 PM
#46
Well how bout you try and understand what beans meant.
He was referring to the fat tire in the rear. As i mentioned earlier, thats only for drag racing or people who cant ride. The fat tire made the bike run slower than stock from a high roll. He also mentions "Most people can't ride." Now considering this rider had a fat tire and wanted to go from a 100mph roll, do you really think you beat the bike there?
05-06-2013, 12:13 AM
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Some bike guys get so butt hurt, especially ones who also have fast cars, because they know how ridiculous a car needs to be to hang with a properly ridden modern crotch rocket of ANY size. High speed roll baiting only works on new riders with 600s who start in too high of a gear and don't tuck. With your mods a modern literbike - even with a shitty rider - will take your lunch money from any speed you want to go at. Bigger then a literbike? They won't even have to down shift and will put train lengths while laughing in their helmets .
.I had a 636 and raced a bunch of cars
From a dig just about everything around here ended up embarrasing for the cars.
Roll raced a ctsv and a ysi vette and got murdered.
Built a pretty nasty 750 and the only race I can remember losing was to a 350z with twins. It finally came around me at 150-160
Ive raced some seriously fast **** on a bone stock r1 and pulled bus lengths without downshifting into 1st.
A modern liter bike with a good rider will make you wish you had saved your money
05-06-2013, 12:52 AM
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I'm going to get a run on film for the butt-hurt bike riders on here. I'm going to carry my GoPro Black more often in my car...maybe seeing will be believing. That might not be even be good enough for some of you guys; there will always be some excuse like the guy couldn't ride, ect...
05-06-2013, 01:10 AM
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This^^
I had a 636 and raced a bunch of cars
From a dig just about everything around here ended up embarrasing for the cars.
Roll raced a ctsv and a ysi vette and got murdered.
Built a pretty nasty 750 and the only race I can remember losing was to a 350z with twins. It finally came around me at 150-160
Ive raced some seriously fast **** on a bone stock r1 and pulled bus lengths without downshifting into 1st.
A modern liter bike with a good rider will make you wish you had saved your money
I had a 636 and raced a bunch of cars
From a dig just about everything around here ended up embarrasing for the cars.
Roll raced a ctsv and a ysi vette and got murdered.
Built a pretty nasty 750 and the only race I can remember losing was to a 350z with twins. It finally came around me at 150-160
Ive raced some seriously fast **** on a bone stock r1 and pulled bus lengths without downshifting into 1st.
A modern liter bike with a good rider will make you wish you had saved your money
05-06-2013, 01:10 AM
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I'm going to get a run on film for the butt-hurt bike riders on here. I'm going to carry my GoPro Black more often in my car...maybe seeing will be believing. That might not be even be good enough for some of you guys; there will always be some excuse like the guy couldn't ride, ect...
Its definitely the rider, maybe you got a 100 MPH roll win against an older 600
100 is first gear on a newer 1000, you'll get yanked before you even see what kind of bike it is
Your car traps 120? Wow...i've trapped 140 in 1000' at 8 teens bone stock.
Machine vs machine your car doesn't just doesn't have the power. I'm not saying you didn't outrun a bike, especially starting at 100, but it wasn't because your car is faster than it
05-06-2013, 02:13 AM
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Your car isn't nearly as fast as you think
Its definitely the rider, maybe you got a 100 MPH roll win against an older 600
100 is first gear on a newer 1000, you'll get yanked before you even see what kind of bike it is
Your car traps 120? Wow...i've trapped 140 in 1000' at 8 teens bone stock.
Machine vs machine your car doesn't just doesn't have the power. I'm not saying you didn't outrun a bike, especially starting at 100, but it wasn't because your car is faster than it
Its definitely the rider, maybe you got a 100 MPH roll win against an older 600
100 is first gear on a newer 1000, you'll get yanked before you even see what kind of bike it is
Your car traps 120? Wow...i've trapped 140 in 1000' at 8 teens bone stock.
Machine vs machine your car doesn't just doesn't have the power. I'm not saying you didn't outrun a bike, especially starting at 100, but it wasn't because your car is faster than it
Nice kill, Doc. Now go get us those vids!
05-06-2013, 02:43 AM
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I'm not crying about anything
I think you lack reading comprehension
I never doubted the fact that his car outran that bike, the arrogance is what I was posting about.
If I posted on here that my car outran something that is without a doubt faster, it would be because of driver error, luck, etc. I wouldnt continue by saying some dumb **** about putting the top up and really pulling on it.
If I'm racing a 1000 HP vette and he ***** up and I outrun him, it doesn't mean my car is faster.
I think you lack reading comprehension
I never doubted the fact that his car outran that bike, the arrogance is what I was posting about.
If I posted on here that my car outran something that is without a doubt faster, it would be because of driver error, luck, etc. I wouldnt continue by saying some dumb **** about putting the top up and really pulling on it.
If I'm racing a 1000 HP vette and he ***** up and I outrun him, it doesn't mean my car is faster.
05-06-2013, 03:05 AM
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I'm not crying about anything
I think you lack reading comprehension
I never doubted the fact that his car outran that bike, the arrogance is what I was posting about.
If I posted on here that my car outran something that is without a doubt faster, it would be because of driver error, luck, etc. I wouldnt continue by saying some dumb **** about putting the top up and really pulling on it.
If I'm racing a 1000 HP vette and he ***** up and I outrun him, it doesn't mean my car is faster.
I think you lack reading comprehension
I never doubted the fact that his car outran that bike, the arrogance is what I was posting about.
If I posted on here that my car outran something that is without a doubt faster, it would be because of driver error, luck, etc. I wouldnt continue by saying some dumb **** about putting the top up and really pulling on it.
If I'm racing a 1000 HP vette and he ***** up and I outrun him, it doesn't mean my car is faster.
And again, who gives a **** what shoulda coulda woulda happened? It didn't happen so get over it. A bolt on LS2 C6 is no slouch at all above 120mph. I've seen bone stock LS2 C6's pull on pullied/bolt on Terminators at those speeds. Also, you don't think that having your vert's top down at high speeds makes a difference?
05-06-2013, 09:49 AM
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He was referring to the fat tire in the rear. As i mentioned earlier, thats only for drag racing or people who cant ride. The fat tire made the bike run slower than stock from a high roll. He also mentions "Most people can't ride." Now considering this rider had a fat tire and wanted to go from a 100mph roll, do you really think you beat the bike there?
I'm a fan of both sides, sorry if you can't handle an honest comparison. I've ridden and owned 600s, 1000s, and now a 14R all in various stages of modding. I've had cars everywhere from 13 to 10 seconds, new motor I just finished should make around 650hp on motor and run mid 10s NA in a lil' ol LT1. Still don't trust my opinion? I have a fair understanding of what it takes to hang with a bike, and your mild bolt-on stock vette isn't there. 120 trap isn't enough, period. My 07 zx6 made 106hp stock and with simple basic bolt-ons(after a few trips to practice!) ran 10.8s @ 127 mph and its a 6 year old model...new ones are way faster and will do that stock/strapped. A car that isn't reliably in the 10s won't hang with that at any mph unless you race 120-150
.BTW 750's are not much quicker then a 600. Easier to ride because of a bit more TQ, but very similar HP. New 636 is only down ~8hp/5TQ vs the Gixxer 750 - but for that small deficit it is lighter, way more advanced with KTRC traction control, handles better, more overrev, and has better brakes.
05-06-2013, 10:09 AM
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Hey guys, his convertible vette with just exhaust/cai isn't a 120mph car. He has never been to the track, has proven he is a typical arrogant/clueless vette owner and is talking ricer talk about his car. I'd bet he can't do better then 116mph traps personally at a normal track.
05-06-2013, 10:18 AM
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Hey guys, his convertible vette with just exhaust/cai isn't a 120mph car. He has never been to the track, has proven he is a typical arrogant/clueless vette owner and is talking ricer talk about his car. I'd bet he can't do better then 116mph traps personally at a normal track.
05-06-2013, 12:50 PM
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Hey guys, his convertible vette with just exhaust/cai isn't a 120mph car. He has never been to the track, has proven he is a typical arrogant/clueless vette owner and is talking ricer talk about his car. I'd bet he can't do better then 116mph traps personally at a normal track.
