EVO IX vs. C5 Vette vs. New Mustang GT
#1
EVO IX vs. C5 Vette vs. New Mustang GT
Got into it with a C5 Vette, and honestly it looked bone stock to me, and I was kind of a little disappointed that we were neck and neck. I would have expected to pull on him a little, but then again this was a highspeed roll. Again not sure if it was stock, but sure did look it. So as I said I was a little disappointed and wondering if I was suffering a boost leak, when a new Mustang GT try to get into the action. I'm pretty sure he was stock, because he still had the dealer plates on (so much for break in). So from about 75mph to 110mph I pulled atleast 6 cars. I thank the Mustang GT for being my guinea pig .
I think others (not LS1 owners of course) underestimate the C5 Vette a little. With the C5 Z06, C6, and C6 Z06 some of us sometimes forget about the C5 Vette which even in stock form is a pretty quick form. I just scratch my head when I read on other forums how stock 350Zs, S2000s, or whatever beat these cars, BS!
By the way I am not stock, I have TBE, MBC@23PSI, Filter, Fuel Pump, and ECUFlash
I think others (not LS1 owners of course) underestimate the C5 Vette a little. With the C5 Z06, C6, and C6 Z06 some of us sometimes forget about the C5 Vette which even in stock form is a pretty quick form. I just scratch my head when I read on other forums how stock 350Zs, S2000s, or whatever beat these cars, BS!
By the way I am not stock, I have TBE, MBC@23PSI, Filter, Fuel Pump, and ECUFlash
#3
The C5 vette must have had some work done that wasn't visually noticeble. I can hang with, and on occassion pull on a stock C5 without the bottle, so you should have walked it pretty good!
Last edited by TRMach1; 12-23-2006 at 02:22 PM.
#6
tHATS JUST IT...Yea you would destroy him in the 1/4 mile..but stock C5's can trapp 111 mph...I did a little research on them a few years ago and heres a list I came up with over on Corvette forum....
Whats surprising is that even the weakest c5...( the 2.73 geared autmatic) is capable of running low-mid 13's all day...
100 % BONE STOCK LIST DOWN TO THE TIRES AND PAPER AIR FILTER
A4 2.73'S COUPE AND CONVERTABLE
SLOWVETTE...A4...2.73...13.1...106
TURBOBOB87...A4...2.73...13.1...105
EVILC5...A4...2.73...13.2...106
DEFORMULA...A4...2.73...13.2...106
S383S...A4...2.73...13.2...105
LS6RAT...A4...2.73...13.3...105
ELECTRONC5...A4...2.73...13.4...105
KILLEMALL...A4...2.73...13.5...104
NAT04Z06'SDAD...A4...2.73...13.5...104
KUNGFURUCK...A4...2.73...13.5...104
PONCHORELLO...A4...2.73...13.5...103
OKLAHOMA...A4...2.73...13.5...103
CLIPENSKI...A4...2.73...13.7...105
BLACKVETTESRBEST...A4...2.73...13.7...10 2
RAYSVETTE...A4...2.73...13.9...???
XCLR8N...A4...2.73...14.0...103
CURRENT 2.73 AVERAGE IS........
A4 3.15'S COUPE AND CONVERTABLE
JIMK98...A4...3.15...12.9...107
RYANBUSH#1...A4...3.15...13.0...105
ROBO01C5...A4...3.15...13.1...107
STANGER383...A4...3.15...13.1...106
RYANBUSH#2...A4...3.15...13.3...108
MIKEV...A4...3.15...13.3...107
MACOMAAN...A4...3.15...13.3...105
JAYGOOD...A4...315...13.3...105
DAVID426...A4...3.15...13.3...105
WT99C5...A4...3.15...13.3...104
BEAST...A4...3.15...13.3...103
IMPORTEATER...A4...3.15...13.4...105
CHAASE...A4...3.15...13.4...103
LSK...A4...3.15...13.6...104
GLOCK...A4...3.15...13.6...103
C5THRILER...A4...3.15...13.7...105
SHURITTE44...A4...3.15...13.7...103
ARBUCK...A4...3.15...13.7...101
CURRENT 3.15 AVERAGE IS...........
MN6 3.42'S COUPE, CONVERTABLE AND F.R.C. (NO Z06'S)
EVAN SMITH...MN6...12.6...111
MRPOWELL.MN6...12.8...113
TORCHDU...MN6...12.8...110
02BLACKZ...MN6...12.9...111
CAJUNDUDE...MN6...12.9...110
MGORMAN...MN6...13.0...111
AQUAMAN...MN6...13.0...109
JOHNSHIELS...MN6...13.0...108
GSXRJACK...MN6...13.0...107
GBJORK50...MN6...13.1...110
LS1VETTE97...MN6...13.2...108
MARKVIII...MN6...13.2...107
1BADPURPLELTI...MN6...13.3...107
LASTMANGO...MN6...13.3...106
502CI...MN6...13.3...106
CARSRFUN DAD...MN6...13.3...105
CSCOKD...MN6...13.4...107
FRCBOBBY...MN6...13.4...105
NAV108...MN6...13.5...109
LVVETTE...MN6...14.1...101
KENDO347...MN6...14.1...100
CURRENT 3.42 AVERAGE IS.............
Whats surprising is that even the weakest c5...( the 2.73 geared autmatic) is capable of running low-mid 13's all day...
100 % BONE STOCK LIST DOWN TO THE TIRES AND PAPER AIR FILTER
A4 2.73'S COUPE AND CONVERTABLE
SLOWVETTE...A4...2.73...13.1...106
TURBOBOB87...A4...2.73...13.1...105
EVILC5...A4...2.73...13.2...106
DEFORMULA...A4...2.73...13.2...106
S383S...A4...2.73...13.2...105
LS6RAT...A4...2.73...13.3...105
ELECTRONC5...A4...2.73...13.4...105
KILLEMALL...A4...2.73...13.5...104
NAT04Z06'SDAD...A4...2.73...13.5...104
KUNGFURUCK...A4...2.73...13.5...104
PONCHORELLO...A4...2.73...13.5...103
OKLAHOMA...A4...2.73...13.5...103
CLIPENSKI...A4...2.73...13.7...105
BLACKVETTESRBEST...A4...2.73...13.7...10 2
RAYSVETTE...A4...2.73...13.9...???
XCLR8N...A4...2.73...14.0...103
CURRENT 2.73 AVERAGE IS........
A4 3.15'S COUPE AND CONVERTABLE
JIMK98...A4...3.15...12.9...107
RYANBUSH#1...A4...3.15...13.0...105
ROBO01C5...A4...3.15...13.1...107
STANGER383...A4...3.15...13.1...106
RYANBUSH#2...A4...3.15...13.3...108
MIKEV...A4...3.15...13.3...107
MACOMAAN...A4...3.15...13.3...105
JAYGOOD...A4...315...13.3...105
DAVID426...A4...3.15...13.3...105
WT99C5...A4...3.15...13.3...104
BEAST...A4...3.15...13.3...103
IMPORTEATER...A4...3.15...13.4...105
CHAASE...A4...3.15...13.4...103
LSK...A4...3.15...13.6...104
GLOCK...A4...3.15...13.6...103
C5THRILER...A4...3.15...13.7...105
SHURITTE44...A4...3.15...13.7...103
ARBUCK...A4...3.15...13.7...101
CURRENT 3.15 AVERAGE IS...........
MN6 3.42'S COUPE, CONVERTABLE AND F.R.C. (NO Z06'S)
EVAN SMITH...MN6...12.6...111
MRPOWELL.MN6...12.8...113
TORCHDU...MN6...12.8...110
02BLACKZ...MN6...12.9...111
CAJUNDUDE...MN6...12.9...110
MGORMAN...MN6...13.0...111
AQUAMAN...MN6...13.0...109
JOHNSHIELS...MN6...13.0...108
GSXRJACK...MN6...13.0...107
GBJORK50...MN6...13.1...110
LS1VETTE97...MN6...13.2...108
MARKVIII...MN6...13.2...107
1BADPURPLELTI...MN6...13.3...107
LASTMANGO...MN6...13.3...106
502CI...MN6...13.3...106
CARSRFUN DAD...MN6...13.3...105
CSCOKD...MN6...13.4...107
FRCBOBBY...MN6...13.4...105
NAV108...MN6...13.5...109
LVVETTE...MN6...14.1...101
KENDO347...MN6...14.1...100
CURRENT 3.42 AVERAGE IS.............
Last edited by Killemall; 12-24-2006 at 01:33 AM.
#7
As you can see an C5 vette is very capable of trapping 110 PLUS mph in the 1/4 mile..
And weather Fbody or 350Z guys or who ever want to admit it...They are pretty fast...
The fastest 350Z in the world ran a 13.5 bone stock..Fastest c5 ran a 12.6 bone stock. their not even comparable..
Honestly the problem with Corvettes is that more people buy them for the image/achievement than the speed. Unlike an STI or EVO or cobra that you buy mostly cas it's a fast car....
C5's cost 45 grand for a base coupe to 60 grand for a fully loaded convertable...The age group that can afford the cars when new plus their perspective as an image/achievement dose nonthing but bad things for the vette...
When i first got my c5 I raced people with the 2.73 geared auto trannie in D and the traction control on. i still beat 350Z's and such but the races were very close..
Took the car to the drag strip and averaged 13.9-14.3 at 97-100 mph...
I was seriously considering taking the car back to the dealer..But instead checked out corvette forum for advice. They simply said to go to the drag strip again and put the auto trannie in 3 and turnoff the traction control...
very first run was a 13.6 at 103 mph. later followed up that night by a 13.5 at 104 mph ( keep in mind this is a 2.73 geared auto)...
my car dropped half a second and picked up 4-5 mph by doing this... ( and this is hawaii so the weather is always the same)
The point is..how many c5 drivers have never been to the drag strip and dont know how important it is to turn off the traction control or for the auto's put the gear in 3????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????
id honestly say 75% of the c5 racers out their who indulge in a street race once or twice a year have no idea, and thatswhy the c5 has gotten a bad name...
I can post this list a thousand times of high 12'sat 111 mph...but if I had raced you a few years ago in my vette before i leared about the traction control and 3rd gear...and was still running low 14's at 98 mph...Well even a stock 350Z could give me a good run and this list wouldntt mean crap tp that person.
And weather Fbody or 350Z guys or who ever want to admit it...They are pretty fast...
The fastest 350Z in the world ran a 13.5 bone stock..Fastest c5 ran a 12.6 bone stock. their not even comparable..
Honestly the problem with Corvettes is that more people buy them for the image/achievement than the speed. Unlike an STI or EVO or cobra that you buy mostly cas it's a fast car....
C5's cost 45 grand for a base coupe to 60 grand for a fully loaded convertable...The age group that can afford the cars when new plus their perspective as an image/achievement dose nonthing but bad things for the vette...
When i first got my c5 I raced people with the 2.73 geared auto trannie in D and the traction control on. i still beat 350Z's and such but the races were very close..
Took the car to the drag strip and averaged 13.9-14.3 at 97-100 mph...
I was seriously considering taking the car back to the dealer..But instead checked out corvette forum for advice. They simply said to go to the drag strip again and put the auto trannie in 3 and turnoff the traction control...
very first run was a 13.6 at 103 mph. later followed up that night by a 13.5 at 104 mph ( keep in mind this is a 2.73 geared auto)...
my car dropped half a second and picked up 4-5 mph by doing this... ( and this is hawaii so the weather is always the same)
The point is..how many c5 drivers have never been to the drag strip and dont know how important it is to turn off the traction control or for the auto's put the gear in 3????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????
id honestly say 75% of the c5 racers out their who indulge in a street race once or twice a year have no idea, and thatswhy the c5 has gotten a bad name...
I can post this list a thousand times of high 12'sat 111 mph...but if I had raced you a few years ago in my vette before i leared about the traction control and 3rd gear...and was still running low 14's at 98 mph...Well even a stock 350Z could give me a good run and this list wouldntt mean crap tp that person.
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#8
Originally Posted by Killemall
The point is..how many c5 drivers have never been to the drag strip and dont know how important it is to turn off the traction control or for the auto's put the gear in 3????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????
id honestly say 75% of the c5 racers out their who indulge in a street race once or twice a year have no idea, and thatswhy the c5 has gotten a bad name...
id honestly say 75% of the c5 racers out their who indulge in a street race once or twice a year have no idea, and thatswhy the c5 has gotten a bad name...
Good kill for the Evo.
#12
Originally Posted by Mr Powell
lol wow I would have been #2 fastest stock M6.. 12.8 @ 113mph here in Houston..
NOT ALL VETTES ARE THAT FAST! Trust me I've watched people go 13.8s - 14.0s in them.
NOT ALL VETTES ARE THAT FAST! Trust me I've watched people go 13.8s - 14.0s in them.
#13
Originally Posted by BSmonitor
Got into it with a C5 Vette, and honestly it looked bone stock to me, and I was kind of a little disappointed that we were neck and neck. I would have expected to pull on him a little, but then again this was a highspeed roll. Again not sure if it was stock, but sure did look it. So as I said I was a little disappointed and wondering if I was suffering a boost leak, when a new Mustang GT try to get into the action. I'm pretty sure he was stock, because he still had the dealer plates on (so much for break in). So from about 75mph to 110mph I pulled atleast 6 cars. I thank the Mustang GT for being my guinea pig .
I think others (not LS1 owners of course) underestimate the C5 Vette a little. With the C5 Z06, C6, and C6 Z06 some of us sometimes forget about the C5 Vette which even in stock form is a pretty quick form. I just scratch my head when I read on other forums how stock 350Zs, S2000s, or whatever beat these cars, BS!
By the way I am not stock, I have TBE, MBC@23PSI, Filter, Fuel Pump, and ECUFlash
I think others (not LS1 owners of course) underestimate the C5 Vette a little. With the C5 Z06, C6, and C6 Z06 some of us sometimes forget about the C5 Vette which even in stock form is a pretty quick form. I just scratch my head when I read on other forums how stock 350Zs, S2000s, or whatever beat these cars, BS!
By the way I am not stock, I have TBE, MBC@23PSI, Filter, Fuel Pump, and ECUFlash
#14
Originally Posted by Killemall
And weather Fbody or 350Z guys or who ever want to admit it...They are pretty fast...
The fastest 350Z in the world ran a 13.5 bone stock..Fastest c5 ran a 12.6 bone stock. their not even comparable..
Honestly the problem with Corvettes is that more people buy them for the image/achievement than the speed. Unlike an STI or EVO or cobra that you buy mostly cas it's a fast car....
The fastest 350Z in the world ran a 13.5 bone stock..Fastest c5 ran a 12.6 bone stock. their not even comparable..
Honestly the problem with Corvettes is that more people buy them for the image/achievement than the speed. Unlike an STI or EVO or cobra that you buy mostly cas it's a fast car....
But so far you are dead on on that, which is kinda sad. I have a DSM right now, and deal with exact opposite problem. All kinds of stupid people get DSMs because they are cheap speed and for no other reason. The guys make it hard to be a smart DSMer.
#15
Originally Posted by 25psi
Evo 8's run similar times as the 350z(with an advantage of the 350z up top). If there slow, so are the evo's I guess . Not many Evo 8's trap over 100mph, even with a decent driver. Given equal drivers, the nod goes to the 350z. And as for the S2000, there pretty quick, considering they run high 13's low 14's at 100-101mph. But hey, if your boosting 23psi(4-8psi more than stock) of course your going to pull a stock 350z or s2000.
Treed a brand new Evo IX with a TBE I put in last time I was Firebird. He ran a 13.9 and even at that (guys very first run down the track) he trapped IIRC 102. At a track where most new Mustangs were solidly in the low 14s that night. And Firebird is at what, maybe 1700FT? The 350Zs were not trapping any 100s with just exhaust. Maybe it was a bad night, I dunno. My car felt great.
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Originally Posted by Killemall
As you can see an C5 vette is very capable of trapping 110 PLUS mph in the 1/4 mile..
And weather Fbody or 350Z guys or who ever want to admit it...They are pretty fast...
The fastest 350Z in the world ran a 13.5 bone stock..Fastest c5 ran a 12.6 bone stock. their not even comparable..
Honestly the problem with Corvettes is that more people buy them for the image/achievement than the speed. Unlike an STI or EVO or cobra that you buy mostly cas it's a fast car....
C5's cost 45 grand for a base coupe to 60 grand for a fully loaded convertable...The age group that can afford the cars when new plus their perspective as an image/achievement dose nonthing but bad things for the vette...
When i first got my c5 I raced people with the 2.73 geared auto trannie in D and the traction control on. i still beat 350Z's and such but the races were very close..
Took the car to the drag strip and averaged 13.9-14.3 at 97-100 mph...
I was seriously considering taking the car back to the dealer..But instead checked out corvette forum for advice. They simply said to go to the drag strip again and put the auto trannie in 3 and turnoff the traction control...
very first run was a 13.6 at 103 mph. later followed up that night by a 13.5 at 104 mph ( keep in mind this is a 2.73 geared auto)...
my car dropped half a second and picked up 4-5 mph by doing this... ( and this is hawaii so the weather is always the same)
The point is..how many c5 drivers have never been to the drag strip and dont know how important it is to turn off the traction control or for the auto's put the gear in 3????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????
id honestly say 75% of the c5 racers out their who indulge in a street race once or twice a year have no idea, and thatswhy the c5 has gotten a bad name...
I can post this list a thousand times of high 12'sat 111 mph...but if I had raced you a few years ago in my vette before i leared about the traction control and 3rd gear...and was still running low 14's at 98 mph...Well even a stock 350Z could give me a good run and this list wouldntt mean crap tp that person.
And weather Fbody or 350Z guys or who ever want to admit it...They are pretty fast...
The fastest 350Z in the world ran a 13.5 bone stock..Fastest c5 ran a 12.6 bone stock. their not even comparable..
Honestly the problem with Corvettes is that more people buy them for the image/achievement than the speed. Unlike an STI or EVO or cobra that you buy mostly cas it's a fast car....
C5's cost 45 grand for a base coupe to 60 grand for a fully loaded convertable...The age group that can afford the cars when new plus their perspective as an image/achievement dose nonthing but bad things for the vette...
When i first got my c5 I raced people with the 2.73 geared auto trannie in D and the traction control on. i still beat 350Z's and such but the races were very close..
Took the car to the drag strip and averaged 13.9-14.3 at 97-100 mph...
I was seriously considering taking the car back to the dealer..But instead checked out corvette forum for advice. They simply said to go to the drag strip again and put the auto trannie in 3 and turnoff the traction control...
very first run was a 13.6 at 103 mph. later followed up that night by a 13.5 at 104 mph ( keep in mind this is a 2.73 geared auto)...
my car dropped half a second and picked up 4-5 mph by doing this... ( and this is hawaii so the weather is always the same)
The point is..how many c5 drivers have never been to the drag strip and dont know how important it is to turn off the traction control or for the auto's put the gear in 3????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????
id honestly say 75% of the c5 racers out their who indulge in a street race once or twice a year have no idea, and thatswhy the c5 has gotten a bad name...
I can post this list a thousand times of high 12'sat 111 mph...but if I had raced you a few years ago in my vette before i leared about the traction control and 3rd gear...and was still running low 14's at 98 mph...Well even a stock 350Z could give me a good run and this list wouldntt mean crap tp that person.
When I bought my vette I found out about the 3rd gear and traction control pretty quickly. The 2:73s are alright if you want to make 200mph runs in open areas, but im switching to 3:90 gears with a Yank 3600 stall. Im hoping to get high 10's low 11s with my setup this spring,. I'll be running H/C and a dry 100 shot.
#19
Points for driver mod. I saw a C5 Z06 run a 14.2 once at some insane trap. Guy just sat there and spun for the 60. I think the best word for that would be vomitous.
TC and bad setup can make almost anything slow.
TC and bad setup can make almost anything slow.
#20
Originally Posted by BSmonitor
Got into it with a C5 Vette, and honestly it looked bone stock to me, and I was kind of a little disappointed that we were neck and neck. I would have expected to pull on him a little, but then again this was a highspeed roll. Again not sure if it was stock, but sure did look it. So as I said I was a little disappointed and wondering if I was suffering a boost leak, when a new Mustang GT try to get into the action. I'm pretty sure he was stock, because he still had the dealer plates on (so much for break in). So from about 75mph to 110mph I pulled atleast 6 cars. I thank the Mustang GT for being my guinea pig .
I think others (not LS1 owners of course) underestimate the C5 Vette a little. With the C5 Z06, C6, and C6 Z06 some of us sometimes forget about the C5 Vette which even in stock form is a pretty quick form. I just scratch my head when I read on other forums how stock 350Zs, S2000s, or whatever beat these cars, BS!
By the way I am not stock, I have TBE, MBC@23PSI, Filter, Fuel Pump, and ECUFlash
I think others (not LS1 owners of course) underestimate the C5 Vette a little. With the C5 Z06, C6, and C6 Z06 some of us sometimes forget about the C5 Vette which even in stock form is a pretty quick form. I just scratch my head when I read on other forums how stock 350Zs, S2000s, or whatever beat these cars, BS!
By the way I am not stock, I have TBE, MBC@23PSI, Filter, Fuel Pump, and ECUFlash