ccotter35@yahoo.com

Last night on the way home from the store i drove past the cornor gas station where all the "import ****" hang out. well this guy in a sti saw me so i gave it some gas to see if he wanted to go. he did. so we drive up to a nice strait away headed right into the desert. we hit it from a 15mph roll and i had a car on him till 3rd gear then he got up on my side. we were pushing 130+ by the time other cars were coming up in front of us. i had the lead and was pulling a little bit by this point so i hit the breaks and flashed my highs. he kept going and turned on his hazards like he won. little *****. anyways from what i saw/heard he had cat back, intake and a blow off valve.
i was very sad that i didnt beat his *** by more but oh well a kill is a kill.

2000 SILVERADO

He must of had more than that to keep up with you for that long, good kill.

ccotter35@yahoo.com

really? i looked the numbers up on them and they look pretty strong stock.

2000 SILVERADO

From what I've heard, they only put down around 220awhp stock because of the drivetrain loss, and with your mods you're probably making 320+rwhp. A cat-back, intake, and BOV won't make up for that.

Gloveperson

iTrader: (9)

Closer to 240 according to most a most dynos.

More than likely, you raced one with a TBE (catback does not do anything on an STi, just like any car) a tune, and perhaps some methanal.

A BOV and an intake take away power on STi's.

A tuned, TBE STi makes 280-300 WHP (AWD dynos are all over the place). Sounds like the guy knew how to drive as well. Most STi drivers bring their car to redline instead of shifting at around 6200-6400ish if he was keeping up with you higher up in speeds because the car makes much better power around 5k than 7k.

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37598

Good kill though

ONEBADASSWS6

They are not. Most put down 235WHP stock, the only reason that they can run low 13's is because of the AWD launch. Their 101MPH trap speeds prove this. From a roll, stock for stock an LS1 will destroy and STI.

He must have been heavily modded to keep up with you, considering you're probably putting down over 100WHP more than he puts down stock. So he must have had at least a few grand in mods to even keep up as well as he did.

wrp

+1 around DFW we have several WRXs, non-STis making better than 300 whp, though I agree measuring it is an artform rather than a science. I honestly have only noticed one that is really modded to the hilt, he and I run regularly to measure our mods against each other.

ccotter35@yahoo.com

well i know where to find him next weekend so im going to go back and try it again. ill let you all know how much i beat him by next time.

Gloveperson

iTrader: (9)

Everything you said was pretty much correct (although the 100-104 trap is also hindered by the very annoyingly geared fourth gear of the STi 's M6(shift at 100 mph to fifth, if the car had the WRX's five speed, it would probably trap as high as 105 and do a consistent 103-104) except that to make 280-300 WHP (again dynos are ehh), it costs about $800-$1400 (a downpipe and tuning, price difference depending on if you want a cat and the quality of the downpipe).

That is what is commonly referred to as a stage two STi and they trap at 106 at the low end and 110 at the high, which is just a little below what an LS1 with his mods on average will run (108-112). This guy may have run methanol as well, or he could have been a slightly better driver than our guy here to make this race close. Nevertheless, a stage two STi is a close race for a stock/lightly bolt-on M6 LS1. Past 120 though, the STi will run out of steam (turbo does not do that well past 6k and sixth gear is a no-no for racing).

edit:
Yea, there are so few ones that are modified past a couple of bolt-ons because the engine cannot handle more than ~340~ WHP so upgrading the turbo to a really big one/other major mods become astronomically expensive for the car. Therefore, anyone that actually wants to do something like that with an AWD car goes with the EVO or in some cases, the 02-05 WRX.

dsmdoctor

im pretty sure a stock bock newer model sti can handle close to 600 whp. i know they can handle 500awhp. now granted, its tuned VERY well. evos are good for like up to 600awhp from what ive heard.

WRX-ERROR

Clearly you have no clue so I wont bother to school you on an STi.


Yeah I don't think Gloveperson is talking about the ej257 (STi motor). I've seen 600+awhp before something let loose. But once people start getting into that hp range they just go with a new block with forged internals. The ej205 (02 to 05 USA WRX motor) on the other hand can handle around 350awhp to 400awhp but most people will just swap out the block once you get into that hp range. Everything from a stock WRX will bolt right up to a STi block.

ccotter35@yahoo.com

ok i just went up to the gas station and talked to his friend. he thought i used NOS on him. hahaha. anyways he has a aftermarket turbo running 20lbs of boost and about $6,000 in work on top of that and he says that he beats Ls1s all the time. i dont think so.

2000 SILVERADO

WOW $6K? And he barley kept up with you lightly modded LS1.

ccotter35@yahoo.com

so is he a bad driver? should he have beaten me?

TR GTO

I'm not sure about that, but maybe it just takes more money to build up an STi. I'm not too familiar with them.

The Postman

iTrader: (44)

i ran a STI at a track around my home town and i don't know what kinda mods he had done but outta the hole he jumped me a little with the awd but i pulled 2 cars by 3/4 track but all of a sudden he made it up and put half a car on by the end.....idk maybe spray, i didn't ask

SoCal01z28

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all the sti's i've raced around here(so cal) have given me a tough fight. i've been dead nuts even from about 60-130 with a couple of them, and pulled maybe 1 length on a couple others. i don't know much about em, but i always thought evo's and sti's were close if not even, but every evo i race i've pulled 1-2 cars on.

ONEBADASSWS6

Well why don't you grace us all with your bullshit "knowledge" about how awesome you think STI's are.

Or you could just stop making retarded posts and bragging about shitty imports. That would be better.

BirdmanLS1

iTrader: (3)

Wow... he had 6k into mods and 20 lbs of boost?? and he didnt beat u with a few bolt ons??? Clearly driver error or he's just makin stuff up.

TheDestroyer

evos can handle 550awhp or so on stock 2.0L..


now i own a evo..and the whole "import ****" ive seen this a lot on here..does it make you feel better by saying that?the mitsubishi 4G63 is probably one of the best motors ever made..brent rau is running the same 4G63(built etc of course) and hes running 6.8's at high 190's....or lets say john shepards 7.70 at 195 with a 4G63

and a awd vs rwd car with same power from a dig will just be ugly for the rwd.

no hate going on here,my whole family has been mustang owners(cobras and GTs of course) but i went the right path instead.

i just dont see why import ****,or ricers has to be brought up when theres plenty of "ricers" out there that would walk on a lot of cars here..i love fast cars period.and people should have respect for a ricer,or another make that isnt your if it is just as fast or faster..dont hate b/c a "ricer" can put down just as much if not more with 1/2 the motor

and for the record a sti and evo arent ricers