WARNING!!!!!Never use PAYPAL! You will get screwed as a SELLER!
03-10-2009, 03:05 PM
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WARNING!!!!!Never use PAYPAL! You will get screwed as a SELLER! From now on when I sale something on this board. I am going to ask for all the money in cash in person or they have to overnight a money order.
Long story. Here goes! Had my Bogarts for sell on here about 2 weeks ago. Got several replys on people interested in buying them. Well one guy was very insistant on getting the bogarts ASAP!
So I said ok. Paypal me a $100 in good faith that you are serious & I will post sold on the rims. Well of course the guy comes back & says he can't do it for whatever reason. So I tell him the deposit is non refundable. That is why I took the rims off the board & posted sold.
So them he says he wants the rims now. So I tell him, OK if you back out again. YOU WILL LOSE THE HUNDRED DEPOSIT!
He says cool & says he will meet me & pay me the rest in person for the rims & tires.
Then the guy comes back & says he wants to back out AGAIN! I told him. You will not get the deposit back then. He says that he offers $50 but wants $50 back. I told him no. I told you if you back out again I will keep your deposit! He says take $50 offer I will have paypal take the money back. I figured since I have all the pm's between us both that paypal would contact me via e-mail & ask my side.
Nope! Paypal take the money out of my account. Now over drawing my account & costing me bank fee's!
Then to add insult to injury I had already bought other rims & tires to replace the rims & tires I thought where sold. Of course this is my own fault! Should have waited.
So I have learned. I will never do buisness through paypal if I am selling somthing. Cause if you are a seller & the buyer doesn't agree just cause he woke up on the wrong side of the bed. He doesn't have to pay you ****!
Long story. Here goes! Had my Bogarts for sell on here about 2 weeks ago. Got several replys on people interested in buying them. Well one guy was very insistant on getting the bogarts ASAP!
So I said ok. Paypal me a $100 in good faith that you are serious & I will post sold on the rims. Well of course the guy comes back & says he can't do it for whatever reason. So I tell him the deposit is non refundable. That is why I took the rims off the board & posted sold.
So them he says he wants the rims now. So I tell him, OK if you back out again. YOU WILL LOSE THE HUNDRED DEPOSIT!
He says cool & says he will meet me & pay me the rest in person for the rims & tires.
Then the guy comes back & says he wants to back out AGAIN! I told him. You will not get the deposit back then. He says that he offers $50 but wants $50 back. I told him no. I told you if you back out again I will keep your deposit! He says take $50 offer I will have paypal take the money back. I figured since I have all the pm's between us both that paypal would contact me via e-mail & ask my side.
Nope! Paypal take the money out of my account. Now over drawing my account & costing me bank fee's!
Then to add insult to injury I had already bought other rims & tires to replace the rims & tires I thought where sold. Of course this is my own fault! Should have waited.
So I have learned. I will never do buisness through paypal if I am selling somthing. Cause if you are a seller & the buyer doesn't agree just cause he woke up on the wrong side of the bed. He doesn't have to pay you ****!
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03-10-2009, 04:08 PM
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Same reason I do not use paypal and my Paypal account is still inactive.....had a brand new stock Monsoon CD deck that I let go cheap ($175) still in the box it came in from the dealer, well lady bought it and pay pal'd me the money, I had it shipped that same day, got a tracking number and a put the option that she had to sign upon delivery/pickup...well a week later she tells me she never recieved it, webt up to UPS and got a print our of where it went, and what do you know, she signed for it when it was deliverd with her own damn signature, I scanned it and sent copies to paypal and they still gave her money back and fked me over on the whole deal....PAYPAL blows...
03-10-2009, 04:23 PM
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Other side of Paypal ...
I bought a MATCO service cart from a guy in Florida who told me upfront he could get it shipped to my door for $75.
Turned out he couldn't and asked for more money to cover the extra shipping. When I began asking pointed questions about the size and weight, he became vague and finally quit responding.
So, I filed a dispute with Paypal. Two weeks later I got a full refund and could care less where the money came from.
But ... I've heard from others that using Paypal as a seller is risky. Seems as though the pendulem has swung the other way.
I bought a MATCO service cart from a guy in Florida who told me upfront he could get it shipped to my door for $75.
Turned out he couldn't and asked for more money to cover the extra shipping. When I began asking pointed questions about the size and weight, he became vague and finally quit responding.
So, I filed a dispute with Paypal. Two weeks later I got a full refund and could care less where the money came from.
But ... I've heard from others that using Paypal as a seller is risky. Seems as though the pendulem has swung the other way.
03-10-2009, 04:42 PM
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Whenever I sell something through paypal I make sure and transfer the money to my checking account ASAP instead of having it lingering in the paypal balance. Those idiots don't do any research when it comes to claims, they just debit the funds back out of the sellers account and ask questions later. If you don't have money in your paypal balance they will not go into your checking account.
03-10-2009, 04:57 PM
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**** paypal, in my for sale post you will see my opinions.
People are like well it's kinda fishy you don't wanna use paypal and I just say well meet up with me in person, mail a money order, or don't buy.
I'm tired of getting screwed by paypal. I mailed a package of 3 xbox's when I used to have a small business and the guy said they were broke...So I said ok send me the xbox's back and I'll give you your money.
So he sends a box a books back to me and I told paypal this but they pulled the money out of my account. Not my paypal account but bank account..
People are like well it's kinda fishy you don't wanna use paypal and I just say well meet up with me in person, mail a money order, or don't buy.
I'm tired of getting screwed by paypal. I mailed a package of 3 xbox's when I used to have a small business and the guy said they were broke...So I said ok send me the xbox's back and I'll give you your money.
So he sends a box a books back to me and I told paypal this but they pulled the money out of my account. Not my paypal account but bank account..
03-10-2009, 04:57 PM
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The moral of the story should be that a "non-refundable deposit" isn't non-refundable in the eyes of Paypal. Post your ads as first with $$ gets the parts, and don't ship until you have your payment in full.
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There is nothing wrong with backing out of a deal if a better deal is found. I've had 11tybillion people back out of buying my ****. He tried to be nice and offer you $50 for backing out and you said no. It's not like you won't sell those bogarts in a few days. When I was going to buy your seats you said you would deliver them to pearland then you said it was too far and you didn't want to be on the road for so long after telling me you would be on your way sunday, maybe I should get some money for getting my hopes up? Just my opinion but you should have taken the $50 instead of being an ******* about it. You also told him that with large purchases it's always assumed that a deposit is nonrefundable, thats bullshit unless it's stated in the for sale ad. /rant
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What the heck is the purpose of a deposit then?
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03-10-2009, 07:58 PM
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There is nothing wrong with backing out of a deal if a better deal is found. I've had 11tybillion people back out of buying my ****. He tried to be nice and offer you $50 for backing out and you said no. It's not like you won't sell those bogarts in a few days. When I was going to buy your seats you said you would deliver them to pearland then you said it was too far and you didn't want to be on the road for so long after telling me you would be on your way sunday, maybe I should get some money for getting my hopes up? Just my opinion but you should have taken the $50 instead of being an ******* about it. You also told him that with large purchases it's always assumed that a deposit is nonrefundable, thats bullshit unless it's stated in the for sale ad. /rant
We are all men here! I think most would agree a deposit is non refundable. What is the sense in sending it for then.Hey I learned a lesson with paypal & in hindsight would have taken the $50 bucks! But its a lesson learned. Not going to argue about it. Just going move on wiser!
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WTF do you think a deposit is then?
We are all men here! I think most would agree a deposit is non refundable. What is the sense in sending it for then.Hey I learned a lesson with paypal & in hindsight would have taken the $50 bucks! But its a lesson learned. Not going to argue about it. Just going move on wiser!
We are all men here! I think most would agree a deposit is non refundable. What is the sense in sending it for then.Hey I learned a lesson with paypal & in hindsight would have taken the $50 bucks! But its a lesson learned. Not going to argue about it. Just going move on wiser!
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03-11-2009, 10:28 AM
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Whenever I sell something through paypal I make sure and transfer the money to my checking account ASAP instead of having it lingering in the paypal balance. Those idiots don't do any research when it comes to claims, they just debit the funds back out of the sellers account and ask questions later. If you don't have money in your paypal balance they will not go into your checking account.
i have refunded deposits sometimes and other times I have not. sometimes I will refund teh deposit if i have another buyer lined up at the same price and the deal goes through.
03-11-2009, 11:49 AM
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Yeah Jerry, You know I trust you bro. I have been on here for years & have never had a problem till this last transaction. Oh well. It cost me $28 bucks in bank fees & lost $100 deposit. But its a lesson learned! No hard feelings towards the buyer. But I did get screwed on the deal.
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Whenever I sell something through paypal I make sure and transfer the money to my checking account ASAP instead of having it lingering in the paypal balance. Those idiots don't do any research when it comes to claims, they just debit the funds back out of the sellers account and ask questions later. If you don't have money in your paypal balance they will not go into your checking account.