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Old 09-28-2004, 08:10 AM
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Default Which is stickier F1 GS D3 or Yoko AVS Sport

It's time to buy new tires and I'm trying to decide between the new Goodyear F1 GS D3 or the Yokohama AVS sport.

These are going to be for the back and on 315/35/17 on 17 X 11 wheels. The fronts will be 275/40/17 on 17 X 9's.

Which is the best for pure street driving?
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I like my GS-D3s. I saw some Yokos that were nearly the
same "chevron" tread. But I don't have any tried-both
experience. Do know the GS-D3s are killer rain tires. I
can accelerate as quick in the wet with these, as my
F1s would do dry.

No idea how they do in the snow, my F1s sure did suck
for that though. Don't plan to find out neither
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I really love my GS-D3's.

According to the Tire Rack reviews, the GS-D3 is better all around.
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For those who have the GS-D3, can you tell me what the tread width is on both the 275/40 and the 315/35.

Goodyear's specs say that the tread width of the old F1 GS (the crappy ones that came on f-bodies) are 9.7" wide for the 275/40 -- about right. The spec for a 275/40 GS-D3 is only 8.9" wide. The Goodyear catalog also says that the 315/35 is only 10.1" wide or less than half an inch wider than the on F1 275/40.

Most 315/35's are 11 - 11.5" wide.

Is the GS-D3 a narrower tire than that old F1 version?
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BFG KDs hands down.
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BFG KD's aren't an all around tire. He wants a street driver.
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GS-D3's are way stickier than the AVS Sports.

Basically, you can think of the GS-D3 as a racing slick with grooves cut in it for rain and better tread life.
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You can throw Goodyear's GSD3 ratings out the window as they are totally off. My 285's are just as wide as a Nitto 555R 315. The 315 GSD3's are simply huge compared to other manufacturer's 315's. As to performance they are awesome. With my power and suspension I can smash the loud pedal in 1st at any speed and as long as I am on smooth surface they won't even break loose. I powershifted the 1-2 a few days back and about damn near broke my 10 bolt they gripped so well. Wet performance is superior to any tire i've ever used, they simply stay planted to the roads and handle standing puddles very well. Tread wear is very good too. Go with these!
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Originally Posted by David Gordon
BFG KDs hands down.
BFG KDW is a great tire for wet or dry and they warm up very nice.

Also a Great All Around tire.
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The gs-d3's are the best tires I have ever had. They are incredibly smooth and grip like crazy. And as other people have said they are fantastic in the rain. Before I bought mine I reserached these vs the Yokohamas at tires.com. there are tons of reviews of both tires. The Yokohama's are known for getting really loud as they wear. They also are not as good wet.

The goodyears cost more but I believe they are well worth it.

Good luck
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GS-D3 widths are more than normal. I went with 285/40R17s
and they are a little chubby. They want 32PSI; 30PSI like
on the doorplate and they are a bit squirmy (17" SS rims).
But at 32PSI they are solid. The sidewall is 1/2" proud of
the rim at its widest, which is at about halfway down the
sidewall (not as silly as 315s where the tread is well wider
than the rim). I would not recommend going any larger on
the factory/SLP 17x9.5 rims. At 285 they look pretty proper
(if you're old school like me), I don't like real low-profile
rubber.

I believe Goodyear's stated 26.12" (from their tire book
at the tire shop) diameter is wrong, as using this value
in my PCM makes for about a +4% speedo error (50 on
the dial is 48 on the roadside radar machine, where
stock I was dead-matching it). One fine day I will have
to drive over one of my more expendable tape measures.
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How the heck can you guys say the tire won't spin ? If I even apply 2000rpm on a brand new GS D3, it breaks lose. It has good tracktion while cornering but sorry, not during acceleration
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My car will smoke the GSD3s easy. The BFG KDs are far better and they are a all around tire as any GSD3 is.
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Originally Posted by David Gordon
My car will smoke the GSD3s easy. The BFG KDs are far better and they are a all around tire as any GSD3 is.
I guarantee I'll beat you in the rain. KD's are proven not to be a rain tire.
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Originally Posted by Ryan02SS
You can throw Goodyear's GSD3 ratings out the window as they are totally off. My 285's are just as wide as a Nitto 555R 315.
Actually, Nitto's measuring is what's way off. Their "315's" are more like 275-285 in all other tire brands. Goodyear measures their tires like most other companies. I have 285 Michelins and Goodyears and they are the same exact width.
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Go for the GS-D3's. Just an awesome tire. When I took off the stock F1's I compared them to the new GS-D3's. Same size but over an inch wider. The GS-D3 is basically a slick with grooves cut in it for rain. Great contact patch on the side of the tire.
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Arent these the same tires as come stock on a ZO6? If so a stock Z will almost smoke them from a roll.
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Originally Posted by David Gordon
Arent these the same tires as come stock on a ZO6? If so a stock Z will almost smoke them from a roll.
Nope. Z06 come with Eagle F1 Supercars . . . .
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Originally Posted by David Gordon
Arent these the same tires as come stock on a ZO6? If so a stock Z will almost smoke them from a roll.
The guy is looking for "the best for pure street driving" tire. This doesn't seem to include the Supercars or the KD. If you look on www.tirerack.com and compare the 3 tires, it's very clear which tire is the best overall. The GS-D3 is only very slightly behind on dry traction, everything else is superior. I have driven on all 3 and tend to agree.
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I've never had a set of BFG KD's so I can't comment on them but I have had the GSD3's and the stock F1's. Dropping the hammer in 1st gear at 25mph on the stock F1's would cause them to spin thru all of 1st gear and most of 2nd before they caught traction. The D3's won't even begin to want to spin under the same circumstances. They hook sooo well I can't even get an tire chirp on the 1-2 shift usually. This is with the same suspension setup and power level. This was recently seen by me as I ran a 2.8 Pullied 03 Cobra from a 25 1st gear roll. He was still on stock F1's and I was on my D3's. We 3 honked and hit it, I immediately hooked and banged 2nd gear and ran off while he was standing still smoking the **** out of his F1's.



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