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Old 12-18-2012, 01:13 PM
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i recently bought a 2000 camaro ss in july of this year and have been a member of ls1tech for a while , you hardly see any 10 sec N/A 4TH gens why is that ? ....
Old 12-18-2012, 04:54 PM
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why ? because its so much cheaper to get there with a power adder unless your talking dedicated drag car with lots of weight removal

not saying its hard to go 10's NA it just takes money lol
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Originally Posted by murphinator
why ? because its so much cheaper to get there with a power adder unless your talking dedicated drag car with lots of weight removal

not saying its hard to go 10's NA it just takes money lol
before i bought this car i really didnt know too much about 4 Gens , my last two cars were 10sec rides , i purchased this car with the intention of a full BMR suspension , 12 bolt 3.73's , built transmission 4000 yank converter , and heads / cam / intake / injectors, Weld RT-S wheels .. etc etc ,

thinking it would be a sub 10 sec ride .. but after more research seem to be not the case with these cars .. they need more cube like a LS3 /408 something on thos lines to get it done N/A .
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10sec cars are'nt that common anyway. Especially ones that actually get driven.
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theres alot more lt1 cars tht carten sec N/a then there are LS1si dunno why
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There are plenty. Just look a little harder
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Geoff at EPS had a 4th gen running 10's with less than 400 whp. I have seen many with just over 400 at the tire run 10's in bad air, but they were all set up for one thing. When a car is set up to cut 1.3x-.14x 60' they are running 10's.
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Originally Posted by coolmanvette75
There are plenty. Just look a little harder
then why doesnt yours?
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Its not that hard. I have a fairly mild h/c/I ls1 that has ran 10s
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It does not seem rare to me!

My car currently runs mid 10's in good weather with 400 RWHP at 3,300 lbs. with pump gas 346 CI engine. But then again it ran 11.94 with a completely stock 92K engine with less than 320 RWHP at 3,650 lbs. LS1 intake and all!

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its not uncommon at all. any well setup h/c car can get it done really, a large majority of them just dont race or have a timeslip, but alas they are legitimate 10 sec cars if they ever took them there
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Originally Posted by Dickie-311
then why doesnt yours?
Because it is (was) bolt on LT1 and had no intention of running 10s, wise ***. Like I said, plenty of n/a 10 second cars out there. I can think of 6 that live within a half hour of me. 3 of them are bolt ons only (ls1, ls2, and ls6 respectively), one is a H/C/I stock bottom ls1, and 2 of them are built motor 6 speed cars (both run 9s on spray as well). 5 of those 6 have run those times in the past month and all have threads on here regarding their cars. Just seems like you aren't looking very hard
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I'm sure they are out there. I'm also sure there are plenty of cars that make the power and are capable, but they are riding around on a stock 10-bolt or stockish suspension. Some people are just fine with having a quick street car and never make it to the track and run it to it's full potential there.
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If brian O'conner had to give dom' another 10 sec car, it would be a n/a Fbody..
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If brian O'conner had to give dom' another 10 sec car, it would be a n/a Fbody..
Overnighted parts from Canada, eh
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Alot of ppl don't want to do the weight reduction it takes with the stock cube game
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thanks for your input guy's , i'll give it some more thought and maybe i'll keep my camaro and follow thru with my plans .
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
10sec cars are'nt that common anyway. Especially ones that actually get driven.
No doubt. Just look at the thread and post counts in the racing department club forums. As the ETs get faster the club gets smaller.
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From what ive seen, its usually the fact that the 10bolt costs $1k+ to repalce with something worth using to ET. Most of our cars with H/C sometimes even with bolt ons or just a cam only setup have more than enough MPH to break into the 10s, but since alot of people don't like the idea of spending $1k+ on a rear and a bunch more on suspension goodies to run 10s at the track when 90% of these cars see the track maybe a handful of times a year. Its just unjustifiable, IMO. They might not ET it but they sure do have the MPH, and that to me is what matters.
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I really don't think it's that hard to do it. People just need to realize what it takes to setup the car properly.

H/C/I with supporting mods, a good suspension setup, steeper gear, good wheel/tire combo, little bit of weight pulled, good air. And in an M6 car someone who can drive.

Oh, and the money for all that stuff ^ lol


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