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Old Jul 31, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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How do you get a crank setup to work without a reluctor wheel? I know its setup on intense road racing cars but how does it work? Could that be run on a daily driver very well?
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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I know on carb'd ls cars they use a crank trigger with an aftermarket ignition unit.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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got to have a reluctor wheel for fuel injection.Only way to run without one is a distributor and carb
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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^^ True unless you go with an aftermarket ECM that supports an external crank trigger
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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Would you mind explaining a little more into what an external crank trigger is and what type of ECM would support that? Can you give me a link to the parts that I would be looking at? How much more expensive would this be than a normal setup?
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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your looking at three grand or more for a crank trigger and a new engine management system that suports it
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by venom99
your looking at three grand or more for a crank trigger and a new engine management system that suports it
You are still running a relcutor wheel, just in a different place.
There is no way for any spark ignited engine to run without the ignition knowing crank shaft position, a wheel and sensor mounted on the crank, cam, or in the distributor (even points ignitions have a wheel opening and closing the points) all do the same thing.
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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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yes i know i am im just answearing his question instead of beating around the bush by the way mine uses a reluctor wheel still he was wanting a price and is you have to use that stock piece
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Originally Posted by venom99
your looking at three grand or more for a crank trigger and a new engine management system that suports it
Megasquirt is $500 for an assembled unit w/ harness and supports an external trigger.
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This is what a crank trigger on a LS motor looks like. (the red reluctor wheel in the front of the crankshaft with the pickup on the left) It uses 4 magnets to trigger an aftermarket ignition box and makes things alot more simple to understand than the 50 some odd signals a turn todays ls engines use.


http://www.besracing.com/customer-en...hallenge-motor
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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The problem is that that external crank is run for a carborated setup not a fuel injection setup.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 03:47 AM
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An OEM setup might not run with a crank trigger but a Big Stuff 3 or a FAST will wont it? It sends the same magnetic pulses that a distributor sends. They do recomend a computer controlled distributor where applicable but I dont think it is mandatory.
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Old Aug 28, 2010 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldsmobility85
They do recomend a computer controlled distributor where applicable but I dont think it is mandatory.
Yes it is mandatory, as the EMC is controlling the spark advance. A non computer distributor can be used, but the mechanical advance needs to be locked out and the vacuum advance disconnected.
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