I've put about half a million miles on a variety of GM products with Dexcool and have had 0 problem with gaskets,or water pumps for that matter.

My 1996 350 vortec had the coolant changed once in the 180,000 miles I owned it.

My 2003 6.0 cargo van has 107,000 on it and I've changed the coolant once.I'm still on the stock brake pads.

 

I have been following this thread from time to time and have to just shake my head. I have been running Dexcool in a old school SBC for three years now WITHOUT any gasket dissolving problem's. This older work truck mainly just sits there and gets used once in a blue moon. I have no build up happening, no plastic overfill tank leaks, but best of all no aluminum head pitting problem's. On my cousin's 99 Vette that I overhauled for him, he had 93,000 miles on it at the time, the water pump had no leaks what so ever. The gaskets stuck to the pump when I pulled it off and had to replace them. I have had alot of late model LT-1's in my shop with dexcool in them and had no gasket dissolving problem's. When I pulled them apart the coolant passages were very clean without the normal white build up like you find with the "green" coolant. I just have a hard time with the "green" is better comments.

 

If you spun a rod bearing, you spun a rod bearing. If you ate the gaskets, you ate the gaskets. It doesn't get any more simple than that. You are over exaggerating the facts to prove a point, and it is a weak point with no evidence to back it up other than your thoughts and feelings, which at this point are absolutely worthless. And to make matters worse, those thoughts aren't even your own thoughts...they are the thoughts of a mechanic that could be a complete moron for all we know. You haven't demonstrated the ability to have one single independent thought in this entire thread. Everything you say comes back to "My mechanic said dexcool is bad. Therefore, Dexcool is bad." You are simply regurgitating what you have been told by a third party whose credibility remains to be seen.

Let me remind you of something you posted earlier:

I'm still waiting for you to be able to argue intelligently. Not reading my post but still commenting that I'm "grasping at straws"? I'm failing to make the connection with your intelligence on that one...

Dead in the water? You have yet to actually prove anything. You keep saying what you think happened (which is really what your mechanic thinks happened), but you don't know ****. Plain and simple.

Due to your lack of intelligent, independent thought but the incredible willingness to spout off "facts" with no basis, you've just made my ignore list, something I've only added 300bhp/ton to. I think THAT little of you, and your sob story.

I think this thread needs to go in the noob section. Maybe they'll believe you

 

OMFG, is this for real? it's 100% dexcool's fault because IT ATE THE SEALS. why is this so ******* hard to understand? it's the ONLY THING that could have done it. dexcool ate my seals, causing my waterpump to leak. that makes it dexcool's fault. it's not very hard to understand. if it helps you, i can write it again: dexcool ate the seals.

 

i looked at the waterpump inside and out

doesn't mean you actually looked inside of it. you can pop your hood and "look" at the waterpump. it doesn't mean you've ever seen the inside.

incorrect. it's a 20 minute train ride just to the betsy ross bridge into jersey. then i have to go 4 stops after that, plus the ride home. in all, it takes about an hour and a half to get from drexel to my house.

believe it or not, i don't live right over the bridge. i live almost to atlantic city. is atlantic city a 15 minute train ride to philly? I WASN'T HOME. i wasn't residing in the state. however, i needed to have my car to drive to my weekend job on saturday. therefore, i dropped off my car early in the week, took the train up to philly, and came home to a working car. it's the only thing i could have done.

no, you didn't blow your engine. not according to steve. you blew your rods and block. they all have separate part numbers, so therefore, you didn't blow the engine, just those parts. that's the logic of someone in desperation trying to make an argument

what facts? you mean the fact that dexcool ate my seals, causing my waterpump to leak? because that's the only fact here.

when did i mention YOUR motor? i didn't even know you had a busted motor because i never talked about it.

pure internet story fabricator. what's your point? isn't the point of LS1tech to have help by internet mechanics?

when did i ever say i knew everything? i've never seen anyone get so butthurt because of a broken waterpump. may i offer you one of these?


bottom line: dexcool causes proportionally more problems than green coolant does.

you look dumber after replying.

 

steve, no one's argument here is weaker than yours. by your logic, i expect you go to through EVERY single thread on LS1tech where someone has had a "blown engine" and correct them. in fact, i expect you to go to Tainted's thread and correct him. he didn't just blow his engine. be blew a rod through the block. therefore, he has a broken block and rod, not a broken engine. if his pistons are damaged, too, he just has broken pistons. i expect you to correct these types of semantics on every type of these posts in LS1tech history. sound fair?


what the hell are you talking about? i'm just pointed out how Cop Car makes some absolutely bogus claims. the only claim i'm making here is that dexcool ate my seals, which is a fact, and that dexcool causes proportionally more problems than green coolant. ask around to any mechanic, they'll tell you they see more problems with dexcool, guaranteed.



what's left to prove? that my waterpump crapped out at 30k, or that dexcool ate my seals? because that's already proven.

lol. what classifies as "proving it". because it's already been proven that dexcool took out my waterpump gaskets, rendering it unusable.

what does it take for you to believe, steve? please, explain. here are the facts:

1.) my waterpump started leaking right after i did a coolant flush. the stock dexcool was still under the 5 year/150,000 mile lifespan.
2.) i limped around the car for a while with the leaking waterpump, as the leak wasn't too bad. my car would have a loud speak coming from the engine bay upon startup, but would go away once i began to drive.
3.) after a while, the waterpump started leaking worse, and the squeak became louder.
4.) after a while longer, the squeak was there ALL THE TIME. it was at this point that i decided to drop my car off for a week and get the pump replaced. i got a new napa pump as the OEM pumps, according to the dealership, were on national backorder, if that tells you anything.
5.) upon inspection of the waterpump, the internal seals were destroyed (very brittle and chewed up). also, the bearings were squeaking very badly.

now, dexcool is the only thing that could have chewed up the seals, as obviously the water didn't do it. also, the pump was replaced instead of just the seals because of the increase in "squeak" i was getting. it was a sign that the pump was on its way out, regardless, and i didn't want to drive a pump that had a big possibility of "puking" and leaving me stranded somewhere.

those are the facts, steve. you can't argue with them, and if you don't believe me, i really don't ******* care.

obviously, most people aren't going to have a problem with dexcool, and i never said this was so. i was one of the lucky ones that had to deal with its problems. more people, proportionally, tend to have a problem with dexcool than green coolant when it comes to radiators overflowing, coolant gunking up and broken/damaged waterpumps. this is why dexcool has the stereotype as a bad coolant by the majority of mechanics.

riddle me this, steve: if there are no problems with dexcool, how come GM had to revise their gaskets because initially, so many cars were having problems with dexcool devouring head and intake gaskets? please, answer me that. it's a fact that dexcool is harder on seals. i am a statistic of that.

here's a little info for you:

GM Under Legal Fire For DEX-COOL Related Problems

so where are your facts, steve?

 

See, you are getting it either. This ain't no fact. It in no way even sort of remotely resembles a fact. I have probably talked to/known just as many mechanics as you, if not more. Why do you keep spouting this crap about "just ask any mechanic, and they will tell you." I don't hear them bitch about it, at least not like you are suggesting. If I were you, I sure wouldn't put a guarantee on this statement, because the scientific method to back up this statement is nil. Put whatever you want in your car, it is after all, your money. However, you have completely disregarded everyone's statement on hear regarding Dexcool not doing any damage to their engines at all. Did you just skim over the posts, or did you choose to not comment on what you didn't like seeing?

I have left the **** in my car for 5 years, and when it was flushed the system was fine. I get absolutely no weird temp problems with the car, even when I drive the hell out of it, and temperatures around here can be on either extreme depending on the season. I have had no problems with this stuff, and I know no one with a GM car in my direct life that has.

*edit - saw the link for the class action suit. What has become of this? I still have not seen any LS1s in person that have had a water pump problem.

 

Who the hell said anything about popping the hood to look at it? Apparantly you dont know that you have to pull the pump off of the old block and move it to the new block when you do an engine changeover, lol. So yeah I did look at it and also cleaned it out thoroughly and put some new gaskets on it.

Atlanitic city is no more then an hour and half from philly.

Are you really sitting there trying to argure about what is technically considered a "motor" by part numbers? What a clown.

If you didnt know I had a blown motor then how did steve tell you about it. You contradicted yourself there, dumbass.

The point of LS1 Tech is to have people that actually work on cars help others, not for people that have zero experience with cars sit here behind their computers and try to tell others about cars when they themselves have no experience.

You didnt say you know everything in THIS thread, but after reading all the other threads you have been in before I can safely draw the conclusion that you think you are a know it all when you arent.

I never look dumb.

I should have my little bro that goes to school in philly come by drexel and smack you upside the head a few times.

 

i can only tell you what i've found personally. most mechanic i've talked to either personally or heard on radio shows really don't like the stuff and recommend you change it out. also, the fact that people have gathered together to form a class action lawsuit exemplifies the problems dexcool causes. the chances are unlikely, but they're still high compared to the other coolants on the market, so i've found. this is why dexcool has this stereotype that the other coolants don't have.

 

^^^ See all Choco can ever say is "mechanics and other people say this and that", yet he has no first hand experience with anything.

Hes that guy at the races that pumps up everyone elses cars and does all the **** talking and nutswinging yet he himself drive a mid 13 sec car that blows water pump gaskets.

 

you know, you can see the waterpump by popping the hood. i never said you can see the internals, but you can see the housing itself.

oh for God's sake. i guess i'm lying then. the train ride to my stop is almost exactly an hour. then, i have to hop in a car and drive home. it takes me about an hour and a half to get to my house from philly.

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it takes a little over an hour and a half to get from philly to AC. believe it or not, most of us don't live at the train station, and we have to commute home, too.

that's what steve was doing. i guess he's a clown, too? thanks for agreeing with me. his "logic" is bullshit.

what are you talking about? steve mentioned your blown motor? where, dumbass? if he did, i didn't read it, dumbass. i really don't care about your blown motor. he was saying that since dexcool ate my gaskets, it didn't really eat the waterpump. i said "by that logic, if you throw a rod, does that mean you didn't blow up your engine, just the rod and block?" get it?

so i have zero experience working on cars, eh? i guess you'd know my life better than me, right? FWIW, the VAST majority of info on LS1tech is opinion related, such as "what exhaust should i run?" the second most prevalent information is all second hand and it doesn't matter who says it, like header fitment, exhaust restriction, sound clips, etc. most threads aren't very technical at all, and in case you haven't noticed, i don't really post in the advanced section or internal section as i have little experience with that stuff. i only post about the things i do experience, and dexcool's ill effects are one of my experiences. get over it.

i can draw the conclusion that you have no idea what you're talking about by that statement. please, back it up with facts

sorry, i meant sound dumb.

i don't know whether or not to laugh at this. you can send him over, but he probably won't be walking back

 

who better to ask than someone that works on the part every day? please, answer me this question. i guess you have more experience than a mechanic? a mechanic's opinion is more valid than anyone else's.

i don't go to races or race, so i really don't care. i have better things to spend my money on. i tend to invest my money for the future, not **** it away on things that break in a few years, but that's my strategy. i've never been in debt, and i don't plan on it.

 

Im sure my little bro would no problem handling a little ho like yourself Here is a callout bitch. Next time I go to visit my family in NJ, you can meet me somewhere and I will personally beat the ******* **** out of since you seem like the type of douche that needs it. Ill knock you down a few notchs myself. Ill let you know next time im up there.

Moral of the story: Choco has no experience working with cars at all and just repeats what mechanics say and what he reads on the Internet. He is much wiser than everyone else because he is not in debt yet at the ripe age of 20 and he has much better things to do with his life, yet he is on this site arguing about coolant. Do not argue with him, he is an Internet expert.

BTW, I am not in debt either and own houses and a few cars and have a family, you dont have to get in debt to race/have nice things. You have to make a good living instead, then it doesnt get you in debt. I **** my $$ away on my car and Im not in debt for it. And if you dont race then how come you have a track time?

All we have to do is a search on your posts, you have been in so many where you just sound like an idiot.

Also, there is a new poll about Choco on SSU.

 

aren't threats a bannable offense? just some food for thought. again, send him over, but he won't be walking back.

the only moral of the story here is you have no idea what you're talking about. all you've brought to the table are lies and name-calling. no one takes you seriously.

some people consider mortgages ownership, even though they're not. you're not impressing anyone.

it'll be locked, but whatever. i think it's kinda cool that someone could make a poll about me and everyone knows who i am. i could make one about you, but no one knows who you are. you could be banned and no one would know the difference

 

And I wont send him, ill meet you myself next time im up there.

Who said i have motrgages? Stop ASSuming, dumbass.

yeah nobody knows me, i only actually have helped people unlike you. I aint going nowhere, no ban for me.

And yeah we know who you are and we all know youre a ******* clown, it has been demonstarted in most of the threads you get into.

 

See what a nutswinger Choco is? I make a poll about him on SSU and he goes right ahead and rides my nuts and does the same thing about me. isnt that the tactic he does when it comes to car tech stuff too? Just repeats what others say and do.

Let my nutz go, biatch!!!

 

Same here... I have 8 Company trucks... all running dexcool. They range in miles from 2500mi to 75k miles and the oldest one is an '01. None of them have ever needed a water pump or any seals/gaskets for that matter, and I would be suprised if any of them have ever had their coolant flushed, changed...etc.

 

facts/logic/truth > Choco

do you even know if your water pump was leaking from the weap hole (know what that is?) or if it was leaking from the gaskets where it is attached to the block. the funny part is that you put a brand new water pump on it and the green coolant destroyed it in a matter of minutes (at least by your logic that if a water pump goes out it can only be the fault of the coolant). just because i put Shell gas in my car, and then i have a fuel pump go out dosent automaticly mean that the Shell gas is to blame. my car and my brothers car both got their dexcool changed at 50k my water pump went out after 140k, but the gaskets were fine, in fact i reused them with 0 leaks. my brothers car now has 130k on it and has the coolant changed once. just because you were TOLD by a mechanic that you need a water pump, and dex cool was the reason why it went out, dosent make it true.

 

again with the threats? this is a bannable offense, right? i'm sooo scared

you've been assuming the whole thread. i figured i'd try.

you're right, i've never helped anyone. i have a PM box full of people i've never helped we're all jealous of your expertise. shouldn't you be at work or something, or do you have no job? or do you have one of those jobs where you just sit on the internet all day? maybe you should be more concerned with helping your family, or will no woman have you?

damn, the truth hurts if i'm a clown, than what are you? a middle-aged guy with mediocre automotive skills that feels the need to argue with a 20 year old about his waterpump is greater than doing work at his job?

 

i figured i'd try a little immaturity, too. karma, right?