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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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The first thing I thought of when I saw 150 psi was an excessively late intake valve closing point. You have not disclosed the LSA of your cam and the ICL is unknown. If I were to guess based on your dyno graph, I would also say that your converter shows no signs of coupling up. Even without a lockup clutch, you turbine should approach a point of efficiency that it is very close in speed to the pump. When this happens, your torque curve on a chassis dyno will look very much like a torque curve from an engine dyno. You might need to invest in a better matched converter too.
already bought a beter converter......
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
If I were to guess based on your dyno graph, I would also say that your converter shows no signs of coupling up. Even without a lockup clutch, you turbine should approach a point of efficiency that it is very close in speed to the pump. When this happens, your torque curve on a chassis dyno will look very much like a torque curve from an engine dyno. You might need to invest in a better matched converter too.
DING DING DINGThank you Patrick. Sheesh, nobody bothers to think that the thing has too sloppy a converter in it.
Runnin a 1600 HP top sportsman car, using a racepak data acquisition system, you can monitor converter "lock up" even though it never really locks up. It will at some point in the run, be one to one with the engine RPM and the output shaft speed. The sooner the better.
Just the difference in the quality of converters (read; name brand) could mean the difference in one to one or not. Or how soon it goes one to one.
Reduce the stall speed, and buy a converter from a company thats reputable. not saying that company isnt, just never heard of em, and I been in the biz along time. And that usually means they are less than, um, adequate.
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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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its not the convertert ive already changed it once..... and picked up4.5 mph.....the rest of the problem in the ICL... anyways if my ICL is now 109 stright up i whould need to adavce it 3* to bring it to 106 rite? my cam is a 110lsa
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28
its not the convertert ive already changed it once..... and picked up4.5 mph.....the rest of the problem in the ICL... anyways if my ICL is now 109 stright up i whould need to adavce it 3* to bring it to 106 rite? my cam is a 110lsa
How can you say its not the converter? If you changed it once and picked up 4.5 mph, how much do you think you'd pick up if you changed it again?
Esp to one with a lower stall speed?
Again, this may be a case of more is not always better. Stall speed, that is.
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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intake pushrods r rubing the head also....at the top of the head about 1in area
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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Did you check anything or just bolt this thing together because someone told you it "should" work?

I mean Damn
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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3/8 push rods r rubing cuz the intake hole is a lil smaller on the ET heads gona have to run a 5/16 or take the heads of and clearance it

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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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Did you check anything or just bolt this thing together because someone told you it "should" work?

I mean Damn
DITTO....
And you're just now finding this stuff?
but you're sure its not the converter....RIIIGGHHTTT.....
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28
3/8 push rods r rubing cuz the intake hole is a lil smaller on the ET heads gona have to run a 5/16 or take the heads of and clearance it
I know because I checked my ET heads when I installed them.

The 3/8 were to close for me to risk running them, I use the thick wall 5/16.


Wonder how much metal made it to the bottomend
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
I know because I checked my ET heads when I installed them.
WOW. You actually checked, DURING assembly? What a novel approach!!
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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1
WOW. You actually checked, DURING assembly? What a novel approach!!

Ya, no ****

Checked my cam too !
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Ya, no ****

Checked my cam too !
Checking chit is just a big waist of time
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Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28
intake pushrods r rubing the head also....at the top of the head about 1in area
Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
Could be something drivetrain wise. Pushrods rubbing, valve float, etc.... Have a dyno graph we could look at?
...... I got something right.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
...... I got something right.
yes ur r the reason why i looked.... i was told they whould clear so i never thought to look but i guess you im learning the hard way....edcmat-l1
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28
edcmat-l1
Well, at least you spelled that right.......
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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mite as well have the mods lock the thread cuz ur gona be a jerkoff about every little thing u can find....
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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mite as well have the mods lock the thread cuz ur gona be a jerkoff about every little thing u can find....
Wasnt tryin to be a jerk about anything. And, seems to me I wasnt the only one commenting on you not checking stuff.
But, on the flip side, it was you who singled ME out.
Now, if ya dont wanna listen to advice from people with experience, then dont post.
I been doin this stuff a long, long time. There a several people on here who know me personally, and professionally.
Fact is, it looks as if you've got a muddled combination of parts, and less than stellar assembly techniques.
Its attention to detail. And, based on your spelling, punctuation, and articulation, I can understand how your build turned out the way it did.
You dont like what I have to say? Dont post like an idiot.
Advice; Two words, SPELL CHECK.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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Anyone have any final words of wisdom before this thread gets locked down? I think it's been illustrated why the motor was down on power. We all pray for a speedy recovery to your racing ways.
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Any updates? I'm struggling with my setup, also.
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Originally Posted by edcmat-l1
WOW. You actually checked, DURING assembly? What a novel approach!!
Yeah its the kind of thing we do when we put stuff together. Makesthings work better usually. When guys were having trouble floating valves at 6500 with the ET stuff we were turning them 7600, its usually in attention to detail.

camaro84 I think I might have the size pushrods you need from one of our ET head setups. What length? PM me
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