Thinking about HIDS, worried about fines
10-20-2008, 04:38 PM
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Thinking about HIDS, worried about fines So yeah, I called Susquehanna Motorsports today and talked to real cool guy who seemed to know what he was talking about. I was calling him about ordering a set of Bosch headlamps for my lowbeams, and I told him I was buying them for HID's. Well he told me a bunch of stuff regarding HID's and how not worth it they really are. He told me you can get a huge *** fine and you'd have to get your car towed home if you got caught; he also told me they were cracking down on cars with HID's this year. He also told me about the Bosch headlamps, and how those aren't really legal either. They are made for European cars and thats it, but he said it's not really a big deal. He also said using the Bosch headlamps alone would make the light brighter and crisper. I originally wanted to go the HID route with 6000k bulbs, but this steered me away.
I just want some white lights, is that so hard? So he told me they have bulbs that will work good with the Bosch headlamps to simulate white light, so I guess I'll just end up going that route. Just a FYI post for those who want to go HID's.
I just want some white lights, is that so hard? So he told me they have bulbs that will work good with the Bosch headlamps to simulate white light, so I guess I'll just end up going that route. Just a FYI post for those who want to go HID's.
10-20-2008, 04:46 PM
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HID with projector retrofit's however are an awesome upgrade and defin worth the time and effort.
10-20-2008, 05:55 PM
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The person you talked to sounds like a idiot. Im not sure how many people ive talked to who have told me that as well but most cops don't bother you if you dont those purple xenon 12000k bulbs in or whatever they are. Alot of cars have hids anymore even ones who never had them before but ask yourself.. would you listen to someone who told you something like "YOU COULD GET IN ALOTA TROUBLE AND BE TOWED HOME FOR HAVING YOUR WINDOWS TINTED" I mean seriously man.. You have tint, no cats, a cutout so its nice and loud. Why bother to listen to someone whos telling you that when most cops will say themselves they don't care much about small **** like hids lol
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IMO, driving down roads that have woods on either side and having blinding lights are dangerous, especially with deer, you cant see the ****** and runs out in front of you because some jackass thinks he is cool with super bright cut-through-walls-with-my-headlights that, like stated above, dont do **** unless you have projectors.
10-20-2008, 06:43 PM
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I have 8000k HID's in mine, no projectors and they 100% DO improve visibility and have a benefit. Mine are angled way down and I have never been flashed by anyone that they are too bright, and I live in the middle of town.
That being said, however if it's foggy you can tell there isn't really a cut off, they just kind of fade out, where projectors have a distinct cutoff and beam pattern. If you're just looking for a white light, get 6000k HID's, you shouldn't have any problem w/those.
That being said, however if it's foggy you can tell there isn't really a cut off, they just kind of fade out, where projectors have a distinct cutoff and beam pattern. If you're just looking for a white light, get 6000k HID's, you shouldn't have any problem w/those.
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I have 8000k HID's in mine, no projectors and they 100% DO improve visibility and have a benefit. Mine are angled way down and I have never been flashed by anyone that they are too bright, and I live in the middle of town.
That being said, however if it's foggy you can tell there isn't really a cut off, they just kind of fade out, where projectors have a distinct cutoff and beam pattern. If you're just looking for a white light, get 6000k HID's, you shouldn't have any problem w/those.
That being said, however if it's foggy you can tell there isn't really a cut off, they just kind of fade out, where projectors have a distinct cutoff and beam pattern. If you're just looking for a white light, get 6000k HID's, you shouldn't have any problem w/those.
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10-20-2008, 07:07 PM
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Non-retrofit HIDs
This is mine btw and I haven't been pulled over yet. I agree the light does scatter w/ non projector HIDs however I haven't got any complaints from the law yet.
Its not too bad in this pic...
And yes, they do improve visibility at night 100%.
This is mine btw and I haven't been pulled over yet. I agree the light does scatter w/ non projector HIDs however I haven't got any complaints from the law yet.
Its not too bad in this pic...
And yes, they do improve visibility at night 100%.
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So yeah, I called Susquehanna Motorsports today and talked to real cool guy who seemed to know what he was talking about. I was calling him about ordering a set of Bosch headlamps for my lowbeams, and I told him I was buying them for HID's. Well he told me a bunch of stuff regarding HID's and how not worth it they really are. He told me you can get a huge *** fine and you'd have to get your car towed home if you got caught; he also told me they were cracking down on cars with HID's this year. He also told me about the Bosch headlamps, and how those aren't really legal either. They are made for European cars and thats it, but he said it's not really a big deal. He also said using the Bosch headlamps alone would make the light brighter and crisper. I originally wanted to go the HID route with 6000k bulbs, but this steered me away.
I just want some white lights, is that so hard? So he told me they have bulbs that will work good with the Bosch headlamps to simulate white light, so I guess I'll just end up going that route. Just a FYI post for those who want to go HID's.
I just want some white lights, is that so hard? So he told me they have bulbs that will work good with the Bosch headlamps to simulate white light, so I guess I'll just end up going that route. Just a FYI post for those who want to go HID's.
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those guys at rallylights.com have cool products and ****, offer a lot of products from hella that you can only get from there. But I've talked to those guys before and they are all tools. They will try and lecture about how to mod your car and so on. Tell you that it's a ridiculous amount of money in fines just for putting HIDs in your car, but in reality unless you really **** a LEO off they won't even bother. I've got plenty of friends and family that are LEOs and they say that is the least of their worries.
Honestly the way they act has turned me away from their business and I have purchased elsewhere even tho it cost me a few extra $. Don't tell me how I can use a product I just purchased from you. I understand it's a legal issue, but don't lecture me.
Honestly the way they act has turned me away from their business and I have purchased elsewhere even tho it cost me a few extra $. Don't tell me how I can use a product I just purchased from you. I understand it's a legal issue, but don't lecture me.
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those guys at rallylights.com have cool products and ****, offer a lot of products from hella that you can only get from there. But I've talked to those guys before and they are all tools. They will try and lecture about how to mod your car and so on. Tell you that it's a ridiculous amount of money in fines just for putting HIDs in your car, but in reality unless you really **** a LEO off they won't even bother. I've got plenty of friends and family that are LEOs and they say that is the least of their worries.
Honestly the way they act has turned me away from their business and I have purchased elsewhere even tho it cost me a few extra $. Don't tell me how I can use a product I just purchased from you. I understand it's a legal issue, but don't lecture me.
Honestly the way they act has turned me away from their business and I have purchased elsewhere even tho it cost me a few extra $. Don't tell me how I can use a product I just purchased from you. I understand it's a legal issue, but don't lecture me.
10-20-2008, 08:52 PM
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I dont really think you have anything to worry about. I've had them in my Regal for some time now and haven't had any problems or anyone flashing me. You will be fine. It is one of the best investments I have ever made.
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People don't flash because they're afraid of retaliation, not because they don't want to. For a good while here in AZ, it was a gang initiation deal to drive around with the headlights off, then pursue and shoot the first person who was courteous enough to flash the driver to remind them about their headlights.
As for those saying that all the new cars have them... very good! Most do, but they are all in proper housings. Some become out of alignment and need to be corrected, just like regular headlights. Hell, my g/f has a new Camry and the projector headlights on it are AMAZING. Bottom line here is that HIDs do NOT belong in any housing other than what they were designed for because of the risks involved. The scatter is insane and even if you DO aim them down, it's still ridiculous. If you're going to do something, don't half-*** it... do it correctly.
As for those saying that all the new cars have them... very good! Most do, but they are all in proper housings. Some become out of alignment and need to be corrected, just like regular headlights. Hell, my g/f has a new Camry and the projector headlights on it are AMAZING. Bottom line here is that HIDs do NOT belong in any housing other than what they were designed for because of the risks involved. The scatter is insane and even if you DO aim them down, it's still ridiculous. If you're going to do something, don't half-*** it... do it correctly.
10-20-2008, 09:31 PM
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People don't flash because they're afraid of retaliation, not because they don't want to. For a good while here in AZ, it was a gang initiation deal to drive around with the headlights off, then pursue and shoot the first person who was courteous enough to flash the driver to remind them about their headlights.
As for those saying that all the new cars have them... very good! Most do, but they are all in proper housings. Some become out of alignment and need to be corrected, just like regular headlights. Hell, my g/f has a new Camry and the projector headlights on it are AMAZING. Bottom line here is that HIDs do NOT belong in any housing other than what they were designed for because of the risks involved. The scatter is insane and even if you DO aim them down, it's still ridiculous. If you're going to do something, don't half-*** it... do it correctly.
As for those saying that all the new cars have them... very good! Most do, but they are all in proper housings. Some become out of alignment and need to be corrected, just like regular headlights. Hell, my g/f has a new Camry and the projector headlights on it are AMAZING. Bottom line here is that HIDs do NOT belong in any housing other than what they were designed for because of the risks involved. The scatter is insane and even if you DO aim them down, it's still ridiculous. If you're going to do something, don't half-*** it... do it correctly.
Clear out your PM box when you get a chance so we can all PM you and ask you what we're allowed to buy with our own money.