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Old 09-13-2009, 12:16 AM
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Default Want to switch H/L's and Fogs to HID, need some help

I've got a 2002 Camaro, and I want to switch over both the Headlights and Foglights to HID. I've been reading through the stickies and have searched some but still need some help on what I'm going to need. I'm pretty much a newb when it comes to switching over to HID lighting so please forgive the ignorance.

What I've gathered so far is that I'll need a projector housing style for the headlights. I've seen two on Ebay, the Sonars and another style. Is that my only option for them? I don't have a stock set of housings, I sold mine a while ago so I can't obviously put the projector in a stock set... I've seen that done before too.

Also, what do I need to use for the foglights? I'll need the brackets and all as the car didn't come with fogs from the factory.

And lastly, what HID kits do I need to buy for both the headlights and the foglights?

Thanks in advance guys.
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Why would you need projectors for the headlights? I've got hids for my lows and fog lights. Don't remember any specs though, Ill get them tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by NSSANE02
Why would you need projectors for the headlights? I've got hids for my lows and fog lights. Don't remember any specs though, Ill get them tomorrow.
I guess you don't need them, I was just guessing. Are some of you guys just using the stock headlight/foglight housings with your HID's?
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I've seen a bunch of people run them with stock housings and halos, never seen anyone else run them with stock fog lights though.
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Originally Posted by 98RedBird
I guess you don't need them, I was just guessing. Are some of you guys just using the stock headlight/foglight housings with your HID's?
yes. search 9006 HID kit on ebay, or purchase a 9006 hid kit from ddmtuning.com

if you get a stock foglight housing you just need to purchase a 880 HID kit

all the info you need. if you can swap out a headlight bulb, you can put a HID kit in your car. its easy

https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...hs-rumors.html

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Originally Posted by chrysler kid
yes. search 9006 HID kit on ebay, or purchase a 9006 hid kit from ddmtuning.com

if you get a stock foglight housing you just need to purchase a 880 HID kit

all the info you need. if you can swap out a headlight bulb, you can put a HID kit in your car. its easy

https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...hs-rumors.html

Very awesome man, pretty much answers everything I needed to know!

Thanks
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I've got 10,000K HIDs for the lows and foglights.
My stock foglight housings were crappy, so I bought a set of Hella Micro De lights and swapped out the stock bulbs for the HIDs. I'm also using non-projector halo headlight assemblies.








This is where I mounted the HID ballasts for the lowbeams.
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Nice!! Im looking to order some soon.
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Originally Posted by 98RedBird
I guess you don't need them, I was just guessing. Are some of you guys just using the stock headlight/foglight housings with your HID's?
It is better to because of glare. Reflectors designed for halogens with HID bulbs instead will scatter light. Sure it is bright, but that's also part of the issue.

Now if this is for your show car, not so much your DD, then it doesn't really matter much.
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even with the sonars, you'll have a little glare since the "squirrel finders" let too much light through with HIDs if you don't modify the shield (i didn't modify mine) .
the cutoff is pretty good for the most part. the thumbnail here is of a 55watt DDM kit in my sonar headlights.
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I don't have a Camaro, but I think this is how it goes..

You can put a 9009 HID kit straight into your car for the lows, and an 894 (I think?) for the fogs. Straight in, plug and play. Or... you could get true projector housings and they will definitely help to reduce glare. A quick search will give you a crapload of projector options.
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Check out the Lighting FAQ for info on lighting upgrades in general including projectors and HID.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...hting-faq.html

When searching for projectors, watch out for fake projectors. There are some companies making crappy sealed beam housings and slapping a hunk of glass inside and calling it a projector. That is not a projector and the output sucks. Projectors only have a single filament bulb (even bi-xenon only has one filament). If you see a "projector" listed as using a dual filament bulb (ex: H4) and no cut-off shield, that is a fake projector, avoid it.

Like I said, bi-xenon still only uses a single-filament bulb (or HID capsule). A bi-xenon projector creates a high beam by having a solenoid move the cut-off shield to allow more light higher through the lens to create a high beam pattern.
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On the DDM kit, can get you get highs and lows or just low beams or should I only get the low beams anyway?
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Can I use 9007 Hid bulbs that I had in my grand prix on my 02 ss camaro?
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Originally Posted by bamalt1
On the DDM kit, can get you get highs and lows or just low beams or should I only get the low beams anyway?
Depends on which car. The Camaro has separate low and high beam bulbs and would need two kits.

Originally Posted by A350SOM
Can I use 9007 Hid bulbs that I had in my grand prix on my 02 ss camaro?
No. The Camaro uses a 9006 low beam bulb and a 9005 high beam bulb. a 9007 bulb will not fit in either location. Depending on which 9007 kit you bought, you may be able to just get a new pair of 9006 bulbs for $25 instead of a whole kit.




Also, you can do what you want, but I'd strongly recommend putting HID into projectors instead of Halogen Reflector Housings due to the glare that will result. Each headlight design responds differently and some respond really badly (pretty much all dual filament setups like H4 and 9007 suck -- reason being... the resulting beam pattern is very scattered and shines high like a high beam instead of a low beam pattern which is bad for the eyes of oncoming drivers.).
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I have a Camaro. I've read that HIDs are not recommended for use as brights due to them taking time to come on when you switch from brights to dims, is this accurate? How hard would it be to wire it to where the dims stayed on all the time so there was no delay? Is this even feasible or am I misunderstanding something?<---total lighing newb so take it easy on me guys
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Originally Posted by bamalt1
I have a Camaro. I've read that HIDs are not recommended for use as brights due to them taking time to come on when you switch from brights to dims, is this accurate? How hard would it be to wire it to where the dims stayed on all the time so there was no delay? Is this even feasible or am I misunderstanding something?<---total lighing newb so take it easy on me guys
they do take a little bit of time to fire up then warm up to full brightness (i'm not saying this properly, but you get the idea). so if you needed to flash your brights, it won't happen.

i keep the halogen brights because they're a bit more yellow which is better for cutting through haze and seeing stuff better.


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