Z-Rated

I always keep hearing that you cant put a deep dish rim one a f-body. or even something with a sweet looking polished lip like this-
<img src="http://www.billetwheel.com/Wheels/Gotcha/furylarge.jpg" alt=" - " />
Why cant it be done???

Drew

supersp0rt

to my knowledge it can be (to an extent). my simmons have a 2.5'' lip on the rear.

Z-Rated

Do you have any pictures?

SS LS1

Actually you can, but it will cost some big $$$ and more importantly you have to find a Manufacturer that is willing to work with you on a truly custom set of wheels.

There are a lot of companies out there that will build you a "custom" set of wheels after you order them with your specific finish and design, but they often just sell you the same old offsets that have been done before with a shallow look. (Of course you also have to pick a wheel design that will allow Deep dish look as some designs just aren't capable of that.)

Now in reality you will never actually get a Deep Dish design (popular for ‘60’s vehicles) where the center of the wheel is concave (center cap sunken in like a bowl) with the positive offsets required for an F-Body, but you can achieve a similar look with a large “Lip” on the outer edge of the wheels. It kind of gives you the same affect. Modern wheels (HRE “R” series, Budnik Fat Lip, iForged) with the reverse lip design rather than the stepped lip of say the Fikse wheels will accentuate the look even more.

This is a Budnik Fontana Dish to show what I mean when I say the center is concave.

<img src="http://www.wideopenwest.com/~arcticformula/BudnikFontanaDish.jpg" alt=" - " />

This is an iForged Aero 3pc wheel with a smooth reversed lip design and as you can see the center of the wheel is convex to accommodate a positive offset and clear braking components. Just a different way of accomplishing the similar look.

<img src="http://www.iforged.com/customer/455.jpg" alt=" - " />

Unfortunately when I talked to Budnik they could only do a 1 3/4" lip on a 10" wide Camaro wheel. Far from the deep dish look above and I got the same response from Boyd when I called them.

IMO two things can make or break a wheel, first is offset and how the wheel sets in relation to the outer fender lip. Second is the overall dish or Lip the wheel has. As an example I saw a T/A the other day with a set of Boyd Coddington Furry wheels (like you pictured in your post) that looked like crap as they were almost flat without any dish or lip at all. NO thanks! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

I also talked with HRE but they are very conservative on their wheel fitments and don’t offer the deep dish look for our cars or on the Vettes.

I did work closely with Vince at iForged through phone calls, e-mails, digital camera pics, etc. to come up with a nice custom offset in 3pc wheels for F-Bodys to give the deep dish look. What was required is to not just use the standard size front and rear barrels that all the forged wheel builders use, but to custom cut them to size. They must also machine the center mounting pads to the proper size that allows the wheel center to be pushed in toward the center of the car while still allow clearance for brake and suspension components.

This can be seen by looking at the iForged wheel above and its shaved mounting pad. The forged wheel center sections are strong enough to get away with doing this, but would not be wise on inexpensive cast wheels as they are not as strong.

This is why it costs so much as it really hasn’t been done on an F-Body before, and iForged was wiling to put the effort into doing this project for me.

My wheels might be shipped this week so no pictures of them yet (so stay tuned), but Vince believe he can achieve a 2.5” lip on the front and 3.5” lip on the rear wheels for my SS. (the wheel above has a 4.5” lip FYI)

Greg

<small>[ March 22, 2003, 12:09 PM: Message edited by: SS LS1 ]</small>

Hyper SS

Deep dish lips can be done!

You just need to find someone with good working knowledge of wheel fitments and offsets. I was told more than once by several wheel manufactors that you can't put nothing larger than 18 by 8.5 on the front without problems.

web page

Anteras 309s 18" x 10" all around,front & rear and lowered!

02SilverWS6

Hyper SS - Any rubbing issues or did you pound the fenders in?

Z-Rated

Dang guys thanks for the info. Hyper SS thats what im talking about!!! the lip looks baller. do you have any more pictures? and Greg (SS LS1) keep us informed on the rims. that huge rim picture is what i want, polished lip and on a 5 spoke design. im not a fan of the stepped lip like on a Fikse rim, but they still look really good.

Drew

willis 00

i have deep dish Axis 3pcs on my ss.there are a several places that can do it (HRE,some billets),for a light weight racey look a company called rays engineering makes a new set that arent 3pc,but they can be deep dish ,they come in colors like gunmetal, white,etc.this company usally caters to the import crowd but these rims in a 19by10 would look damn good on a f-body. 9 out of 10 deepdish,3pcs are custom made to order and can be very expensive.up to 2000$ a piece in some cases. www.speedoptions.com/profiles/driverview.php?id=36258

<small>[ March 16, 2003, 03:01 PM: Message edited by: willis 00 ]</small>

alexWS6

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="http://www.iforged.com/customer/455.jpg" alt=" - " /> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good god <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />


I've been thinking those are the rims I want on my car and now I'm certain. I cannot wait to see your pics Greg.

Hyper SS

<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p2895c5570203a274fc6ed2ab320b8d30/fcf22b4a.jpg" alt=" - " />


I run 275-35-18 Kuhmos 712 front to rear NO rubbing, no fender hammering, bolted right up!

TRILOGYZ28

iTrader: (3)

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by willis 00:
<strong> i have deep dish Axis 3pcs on my ss.there are a several places that can do it (HRE,some billets),for a light weight racey look a company called rays engineering makes a new set that arent 3pc,but they can be deep dish ,they come in colors like gunmetal, white,etc.this company usally caters to the import crowd but these rims in a 19by10 would look damn good on a f-body. 9 out of 10 deepdish,3pcs are custom made to order and can be very expensive.up to 2000$ a piece in some cases. www.speedoptions.com/profiles/driverview.php?id=36258 </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Damn willis!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
sweet ride, i like how you got your taillights painted and your front and rear gfx molded in !!
and the 19's.......MAN! that's just badass !! <img border="0" alt="[worship]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />

Z-Rated

wow Hyper those rims look good, where did u get them from? and how big is that lip?
<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid42/p2895c5570203a274fc6ed2ab320b8d30/fcf22b4a.jpg" alt=" - " />
sweet!

Drew

ta25th

Here's a wheel I'm getting next week. 19x9.5 with around a 2.5" lip...(I'm getting Light Silver ones though, these are HyperDark Silver.)
<img src="http://www.ayresweb.com/wheel_7.jpg" alt=" - " />

And here is the actual color I'm getting but this is an 8.5" wide wheel with a smaller lip...
<img src="http://ayresweb.com/wheels_2.jpg" alt=" - " />

-Shawn

<small>[ March 16, 2003, 09:54 PM: Message edited by: ta25th ]</small>

Constrictor 98TA

Borbet Type Ts. The lip is around 2.5" - 3".

<img src="http://www.metalreviewcentre.com/images/Borbet2.jpg" alt=" - " />

<img src="http://www.metalreviewcentre.com/Pdrm0498.jpg" alt=" - " />

SS LS1

Yeah guys I will post some pics when I receive my iForged wheels. Sounds like they are finished building/polishing them and should be boxed up and shipped out next week. So stay tuned.

Here are a couple more pics I found of a DEEP dish on an iForged wheel. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> I know what you are thinking and no the 5.5" dish is not going to happen on a F-Body. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Still nice to look at though.\
Greg

<img src="http://www.speedimageonline.com/5lip1.jpg" alt=" - " /> <img src="http://www.speedimageonline.com/5lip3.jpg" alt=" - " /> <img src="http://www.speedimageonline.com/5lip2.jpg" alt=" - " />

Butch 02 SS

I just put ROH ZS on mine. 17x9.5 stock size. They are sort of deep. <img src="http://users.adelphia.net/~rlevere/driveway.jpg" alt=" - " />

Hyper SS

<img src="http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid53/p7922d4816a30200ab3b7a97c6f2048dc/fc912d23.jpg" alt=" - " />

Here's full shot with Antera 309s

Nine Ball

iTrader: (38)

Check out how deep the rear Racing Hart wheels I had were. 18x10 on the rear, probably a 4" lip:

<img src="http://users.ev1.net/~ynot_dv8/city02.jpg" alt=" - " />

It can be done, just very few wheels are available that have that look.

Another way you can guarantee a deep lip look is to order a new 12-bolt with a narrowed width. Have them chop an inch or so from the stock width, and order custom wheels to make up for that offset difference.

Tony

Nine Ball

iTrader: (38)

Here is another one from the back. Keep in mind that the rivets you see are just reflecting off of the wide lip. The lips actually go waaaay up under that reversed rivet mounting area:

<img src="http://users.ev1.net/~ynot_dv8/hart02.jpg" alt=" - " />

Here is a photo of what I mean by the reflection, which is pretty cool because it gives the illusion that the wheels are larger in diameter than they really are:

<img src="http://www.gruppe-s.com/RH/hart-m52.jpg" alt=" - " />

-Tony

Z-Rated

They look good Tony. I remember seeing them when i was at MTI. better get some tight rims for that 69 too. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Drew