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#561
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I don't know if I have many existing pictures. I can take a few 'after' shots if you wish. It is extremely tough to capture this on the car since the car is white. I'll try and snap some photos tonight although it gets dark out soon here now. If not, I will have to wait until the weekend.
#562
I don't know if I have many existing pictures. I can take a few 'after' shots if you wish. It is extremely tough to capture this on the car since the car is white. I'll try and snap some photos tonight although it gets dark out soon here now. If not, I will have to wait until the weekend.
#563
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ok so i have read this entire thread and i can say WOW i have never been so excited to try to do a detail on my car. Mind you i am completely new to this for the most part and you guys are a great bunch to start this thread and release your secrets, thank you all so much especially gofast. I have only do detailing by hand so Im excited to learn the in's and outs of this art. I would have never had thought how much actually goes into paint correction and detailing. So i have created a list from exactly what you guys have suggested and have a few stupid questions. My list goes like this:
1) buying the PC starter kit that has the meg 105 and 205 in it
2) Menzerna p086KD for that real nice depth and shine after the meg 205
3) Blackfire wet diamond sealent
4) Blackfire midnight wax
5) some extra lake country orange, white and black pads
6) A few extra cobra towels for drying the car after wash and for whip down after polish and wax
7) Pinnacle xmt polishing pad conditioner for application (Is this a good idea or should i just prime the pads instead???)
8) i going to clay bar the car as well and i already have the kit but im going to buy the no rinse stuff that was mentioned as lube
9) dawn soap and foamer gun
Ok so this is my list and was wondering would it be a good idea to do the entire car with the meg 105 after the car is properly washed and clayed? I have swirls on the entire car for the most part. I didnt know if the bad ones i should just do with the 105 and then the rest of the car 205?
Also once this entire processed is done what is the proper way of taking care of it after that? Do i just wax it every 3 months. Then in a year from now polish the car again? Or just keep waxing it?
Also i know that you have to wash the car with regular dawn before you clay bar but what kind of car wash should i use for a normal wash. I have the megs gold wash and conditioner now is this ok to continue using? I know this questioned was asked but i dont remember what page it was on
1) buying the PC starter kit that has the meg 105 and 205 in it
2) Menzerna p086KD for that real nice depth and shine after the meg 205
3) Blackfire wet diamond sealent
4) Blackfire midnight wax
5) some extra lake country orange, white and black pads
6) A few extra cobra towels for drying the car after wash and for whip down after polish and wax
7) Pinnacle xmt polishing pad conditioner for application (Is this a good idea or should i just prime the pads instead???)
8) i going to clay bar the car as well and i already have the kit but im going to buy the no rinse stuff that was mentioned as lube
9) dawn soap and foamer gun
Ok so this is my list and was wondering would it be a good idea to do the entire car with the meg 105 after the car is properly washed and clayed? I have swirls on the entire car for the most part. I didnt know if the bad ones i should just do with the 105 and then the rest of the car 205?
Also once this entire processed is done what is the proper way of taking care of it after that? Do i just wax it every 3 months. Then in a year from now polish the car again? Or just keep waxing it?
Also i know that you have to wash the car with regular dawn before you clay bar but what kind of car wash should i use for a normal wash. I have the megs gold wash and conditioner now is this ok to continue using? I know this questioned was asked but i dont remember what page it was on
#564
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ok so i have read this entire thread and i can say WOW i have never been so excited to try to do a detail on my car. Mind you i am completely new to this for the most part and you guys are a great bunch to start this thread and release your secrets, thank you all so much especially gofast. I have only do detailing by hand so Im excited to learn the in's and outs of this art. I would have never had thought how much actually goes into paint correction and detailing. So i have created a list from exactly what you guys have suggested and have a few stupid questions. My list goes like this:
1) buying the PC starter kit that has the meg 105 and 205 in it
2) Menzerna p086KD for that real nice depth and shine after the meg 205
3) Blackfire wet diamond sealent
4) Blackfire midnight wax
5) some extra lake country orange, white and black pads
6) A few extra cobra towels for drying the car after wash and for whip down after polish and wax
7) Pinnacle xmt polishing pad conditioner for application (Is this a good idea or should i just prime the pads instead???)
8) i going to clay bar the car as well and i already have the kit but im going to buy the no rinse stuff that was mentioned as lube
9) dawn soap and foamer gun
Ok so this is my list and was wondering would it be a good idea to do the entire car with the meg 105 after the car is properly washed and clayed? I have swirls on the entire car for the most part. I didnt know if the bad ones i should just do with the 105 and then the rest of the car 205?
Also once this entire processed is done what is the proper way of taking care of it after that? Do i just wax it every 3 months. Then in a year from now polish the car again? Or just keep waxing it?
Also i know that you have to wash the car with regular dawn before you clay bar but what kind of car wash should i use for a normal wash. I have the megs gold wash and conditioner now is this ok to continue using? I know this questioned was asked but i dont remember what page it was on
1) buying the PC starter kit that has the meg 105 and 205 in it
2) Menzerna p086KD for that real nice depth and shine after the meg 205
3) Blackfire wet diamond sealent
4) Blackfire midnight wax
5) some extra lake country orange, white and black pads
6) A few extra cobra towels for drying the car after wash and for whip down after polish and wax
7) Pinnacle xmt polishing pad conditioner for application (Is this a good idea or should i just prime the pads instead???)
8) i going to clay bar the car as well and i already have the kit but im going to buy the no rinse stuff that was mentioned as lube
9) dawn soap and foamer gun
Ok so this is my list and was wondering would it be a good idea to do the entire car with the meg 105 after the car is properly washed and clayed? I have swirls on the entire car for the most part. I didnt know if the bad ones i should just do with the 105 and then the rest of the car 205?
Also once this entire processed is done what is the proper way of taking care of it after that? Do i just wax it every 3 months. Then in a year from now polish the car again? Or just keep waxing it?
Also i know that you have to wash the car with regular dawn before you clay bar but what kind of car wash should i use for a normal wash. I have the megs gold wash and conditioner now is this ok to continue using? I know this questioned was asked but i dont remember what page it was on
After your paint is nice and healthy, for maintenence, you method of car washing is going to determaine how often you need to polish it to remove any new defects. Make sure your washing with the 2 bucket method, using a high quality wash mitt, and drying with something like the waffle weave microfibers. I also keep a separate mitt for wheels, door jambs and trunk jamb. Also, do make sure your maintaining your microfibers correctly( wash mitts and drying towels included) Wash with a microfiber detergent, no fabric softer or regular laundry soap, wash in cool water and air dry or dry on no heat or lowest heat setting in the dryer. It makes a huge difference being as meticulous about the cleanliness and condition of all your towels as you are the paint on your car. After mine are clean, they go from the dryer to sealable rubber tubs until Im ready to use them. I used to keep all my towels in a duffle bag, but I kept noticing that no matter how careful I was to keep the bag zipped shut when not using it, I always would see a little bit of what looked like sand at the bottom( not good) The tubs( picked up cheap at the dollar store in various sizes) solved that problem. I may sound a bit ****, but its all worth the extra effort.
Far as the Blackfire goes. I cant comment on the wax, I have never used it on mine or a customers car. I do regulary use the sealant on nearly everything I do though. The Blackfire wet diamond sealent will last 3-4 months on a regularly driven car that gets washed once a week. So, it will depend on how often you drive your Z as to when it needs to be waxed again.
For car washes, I am a die hard Zaino Z7 user and that is what I always recomend. You will be fine sticking with the megs wash.
Hope that helps.
#565
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thanks lt4 vert for the extra advise and help it was greatly appreciated. Is there a wax other then the blackfire wax you might use after the sealant? Idk if it matters to but my car is bright metallic green ( the color the turns purple and blue) is there a polish or sealant that works better on my color?
#567
Sorry I've been MIA again guys....just been swamped with work! Busiest Dec I've ever had! Pulled a 16hr day on an Aston Martin last night, getting home around 2:30am. Gonna be heading out to do work on a 911 GT3 RS shortly, but I'll handle some of your questions before I head out.
#569
This is probably the best advice you'll get. I had a cheap $35 Advance Auto "buffer" that didn't do much at all for me. I believe it actually contributed to amount of paint correction I now need, which is totally my fault. I've now been slowly working at correcting the paint but it's definitely a time consuming process. The results however are amazing when you're using the proper tools and technique. The porter cable and M105/M205 combo coupled with a 5" backing plate and Lake County 5.5" flat pads have been a real solid combo for me. Not too difficult to work and a great finish!
Stoners Invisible Glass for ones that are really grimy. Otherwise, distilled water + waffle weave glass MF towel does the job nicely.
#570
Can you explain how you say you do paint correction by hand on the areas like the front of a trans am bumper with all the curves and tight spots?
And exactly how many pads do you think I would use on my car with the 105/205? I don't know how dirty they should be before I put on a new pad.
Finally, can you tell me exactly what I need to do to clean the pads after I use them. I heard dawn dish soap can make the velcro peel off from the pad and stiff bristles can ruin the pads.
Sorry for all the questions lol I know you're busy.
Can't wait to use my blackfire wet diamond after I correct my paint! Got it 50% off at the sale on autogeek
And exactly how many pads do you think I would use on my car with the 105/205? I don't know how dirty they should be before I put on a new pad.
Finally, can you tell me exactly what I need to do to clean the pads after I use them. I heard dawn dish soap can make the velcro peel off from the pad and stiff bristles can ruin the pads.
Sorry for all the questions lol I know you're busy.
Can't wait to use my blackfire wet diamond after I correct my paint! Got it 50% off at the sale on autogeek
Rinse them in lukewarm water, gently massage the product out of them. Use a light APC to assist if you let the pads dry before washing them.
Imagine working on an Aston Martin or a Ferrari....you'd get shut down with the quickness trying to do that.
#571
Here is a question for you. Your answer might be 'body shop time'.
My car got keyed from the front of the passenger door, over the door handle, and almost all the way to the rear bumper on the quarter panel. At the time I had a high insurance deductible and the insurance adjuster low balled the estimate. So I just let it ride for the time being. This past summer I purchased some touch up paint and decided to repair this myself. I knew from the get-go that it would not be a 100% repair, but it would look a lot better than what it did. I expected something along the lines of a 75% repair- meaning it would be barely visible anymore.
My process consisted of applying wax and grease remover, apply touch up paint, wet sand touch up paint until it was flat with the OEM paint, then use polishing compound and wax when done. I did this process once, and then did it again a few weeks later to try and get the scratch a little better. I would build the scratch up each time to fill it. It went from a deep scratch, to a barely visible scratch that could not be felt with a fingernail any more.
Do you feel as though I can remedy this scratch any more? Or is this as good as it will get without getting a body shop involved?
Are there any 'detailing' tricks that could help me? i.e. blend the paint into the scratch with a buffer and some product?
Thanks
My car got keyed from the front of the passenger door, over the door handle, and almost all the way to the rear bumper on the quarter panel. At the time I had a high insurance deductible and the insurance adjuster low balled the estimate. So I just let it ride for the time being. This past summer I purchased some touch up paint and decided to repair this myself. I knew from the get-go that it would not be a 100% repair, but it would look a lot better than what it did. I expected something along the lines of a 75% repair- meaning it would be barely visible anymore.
My process consisted of applying wax and grease remover, apply touch up paint, wet sand touch up paint until it was flat with the OEM paint, then use polishing compound and wax when done. I did this process once, and then did it again a few weeks later to try and get the scratch a little better. I would build the scratch up each time to fill it. It went from a deep scratch, to a barely visible scratch that could not be felt with a fingernail any more.
Do you feel as though I can remedy this scratch any more? Or is this as good as it will get without getting a body shop involved?
Are there any 'detailing' tricks that could help me? i.e. blend the paint into the scratch with a buffer and some product?
Thanks
ok so i have read this entire thread and i can say WOW i have never been so excited to try to do a detail on my car. Mind you i am completely new to this for the most part and you guys are a great bunch to start this thread and release your secrets, thank you all so much especially gofast. I have only do detailing by hand so Im excited to learn the in's and outs of this art. I would have never had thought how much actually goes into paint correction and detailing. So i have created a list from exactly what you guys have suggested and have a few stupid questions. My list goes like this:
1) buying the PC starter kit that has the meg 105 and 205 in it
2) Menzerna p086KD for that real nice depth and shine after the meg 205
3) Blackfire wet diamond sealent
4) Blackfire midnight wax
5) some extra lake country orange, white and black pads
6) A few extra cobra towels for drying the car after wash and for whip down after polish and wax
7) Pinnacle xmt polishing pad conditioner for application (Is this a good idea or should i just prime the pads instead???)
8) i going to clay bar the car as well and i already have the kit but im going to buy the no rinse stuff that was mentioned as lube
9) dawn soap and foamer gun
Ok so this is my list and was wondering would it be a good idea to do the entire car with the meg 105 after the car is properly washed and clayed? I have swirls on the entire car for the most part. I didnt know if the bad ones i should just do with the 105 and then the rest of the car 205?
Also once this entire processed is done what is the proper way of taking care of it after that? Do i just wax it every 3 months. Then in a year from now polish the car again? Or just keep waxing it?
Also i know that you have to wash the car with regular dawn before you clay bar but what kind of car wash should i use for a normal wash. I have the megs gold wash and conditioner now is this ok to continue using? I know this questioned was asked but i dont remember what page it was on
1) buying the PC starter kit that has the meg 105 and 205 in it
2) Menzerna p086KD for that real nice depth and shine after the meg 205
3) Blackfire wet diamond sealent
4) Blackfire midnight wax
5) some extra lake country orange, white and black pads
6) A few extra cobra towels for drying the car after wash and for whip down after polish and wax
7) Pinnacle xmt polishing pad conditioner for application (Is this a good idea or should i just prime the pads instead???)
8) i going to clay bar the car as well and i already have the kit but im going to buy the no rinse stuff that was mentioned as lube
9) dawn soap and foamer gun
Ok so this is my list and was wondering would it be a good idea to do the entire car with the meg 105 after the car is properly washed and clayed? I have swirls on the entire car for the most part. I didnt know if the bad ones i should just do with the 105 and then the rest of the car 205?
Also once this entire processed is done what is the proper way of taking care of it after that? Do i just wax it every 3 months. Then in a year from now polish the car again? Or just keep waxing it?
Also i know that you have to wash the car with regular dawn before you clay bar but what kind of car wash should i use for a normal wash. I have the megs gold wash and conditioner now is this ok to continue using? I know this questioned was asked but i dont remember what page it was on
LT4vert pretty much covered everything quite well. Just a couple things I'll add...
The Menzerna is PO85RD. With M105/205, prime the pads with product. Experiment with other polishes with the XMT. I found it works on some but not others. Just 1 light spray is plenty.
#572
thanks lt4 vert for the extra advise and help it was greatly appreciated. Is there a wax other then the blackfire wax you might use after the sealant? Idk if it matters to but my car is bright metallic green ( the color the turns purple and blue) is there a polish or sealant that works better on my color?
Try some Mothers Billet polish since they have no clear coat.
#575
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Any advice on the quickest and easiest way to clean a Diamond White vehicle? My wife has an 09 G6 GT Coupe and that thing is 2x as hard to get clean and keep clean than black in my opinion!
#577
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If it's too much of a hassle, I understand. I'm curious as I also have an arctic white ws6. I have 1 scratch that has been bugging me since I bought the car. The scratch is about 1.5 inches long and is defintely paint-deep. Just curious to see how your repair turned out
http://www.flickr.com/photos/5457857...7628360633775/
The first seven (7) photos are the 'before' shots, the rest are the 'after'. I tried to post process some of these photos to exaggerate the scratch so its visible. Basically it went from a deep, dark scratch that you could feel with your fingernail to a 'flat', filled, light scratch that cannot be felt with a fingernail.
Like GoFast908Z said, this is about as good as it will get without a body shop getting involved and spraying the door/quarter. I asked the questions initially to see if there were any 'tricks of the trade' that could get the repair a little bit better. It's barely noticeable now so I will leave it as-is until the car gets a repaint in a couple of years.
#578
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I have the opportunity to get a good car cover as a Christmas gift, however, I wash my car twice a week and put a fresh coat of wax on it once every two weeks. It's getting pretty cold here and the car sits outside most of the time unless it's snowing, would you recommend getting a car cover or am I better off just keeping wax on the paint and leaving it alone?
I ask because I've heard horror stories about a lot of car covers introducing new swirls and scratches, don't know if it's better that the car is open to the elements with some good wax on it, or just completely covered up.
I ask because I've heard horror stories about a lot of car covers introducing new swirls and scratches, don't know if it's better that the car is open to the elements with some good wax on it, or just completely covered up.
#579
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I have a question: I'm going to be getting a brand new 2011 car this month and I was wondering if I should claybar and detail it ASAP. I'm guessing the manufacturer doesn't put any kind of protectant on their cars, inside and out?
I looked through the thread, and I saw information just on new paint, and I follow those rules on my other cars.
I looked through the thread, and I saw information just on new paint, and I follow those rules on my other cars.
#580
I have the opportunity to get a good car cover as a Christmas gift, however, I wash my car twice a week and put a fresh coat of wax on it once every two weeks. It's getting pretty cold here and the car sits outside most of the time unless it's snowing, would you recommend getting a car cover or am I better off just keeping wax on the paint and leaving it alone?
I ask because I've heard horror stories about a lot of car covers introducing new swirls and scratches, don't know if it's better that the car is open to the elements with some good wax on it, or just completely covered up.
I ask because I've heard horror stories about a lot of car covers introducing new swirls and scratches, don't know if it's better that the car is open to the elements with some good wax on it, or just completely covered up.
Just get a quality cover (I'd recommend silk or satin if they can afford it), and only cover it after a wash, and never after driving it.
I have a question: I'm going to be getting a brand new 2011 car this month and I was wondering if I should claybar and detail it ASAP. I'm guessing the manufacturer doesn't put any kind of protectant on their cars, inside and out?
I looked through the thread, and I saw information just on new paint, and I follow those rules on my other cars.
I looked through the thread, and I saw information just on new paint, and I follow those rules on my other cars.